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[Sithis]

Over under on if he posts them there Null decides to pop his head into the thread and decide to just ban it once and for all after seeing feet posted?

If you think Katta's feet are haram you oughta see Fefe's

 

[Awoogers]

Now that proctor is gone to touch grass. I'll say it. Every vtuber is fat and everyone here is fat too unless you're from a third world country because you can't afford to be fat.

Jokes on you

 

[Porean]

If you think Katta's feet are haram you oughta see Fefe's

is this one of those "DM me for feetsies :3" situations we've had before?

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

I don't understand this attitude at all.

I pay for this forum.

I run this forum.

I am objectively, in every way imaginable, the one person you should avoid pissing off at all costs.

I cannot think of any other forum owner who would allow somebody to be so egregiously antagonistic towards them as I do. Anyone who thinks Null doesn't do it is a retard. In 99.9% of all communities I have ever been a part of, directly mouthing off to the moderators/owners/etc is an automatically ban-worthy offense.

It is legitimately unfathomable to me why anyone here with even the smallest fraction of knowledge of how to interact with their fellow man would not view my attitude as permissive in the extreme, and berate me for not cracking down far sooner and far more aggressively.

You're not wrong, but I'd argue that Rrat and Short were in the same state you were (are) in, aggravated and in for a fight they wouldn't ordinarily pick, out of a mixture of the forum's established culture and the action they disagreed with being perceived as "Tako made my internet girlfriend leave, BANS FOR EVERYONE!"

I'd wager that they'd have reacted dramatically different if it'd been a one week ban. Or a ban at any time Tako antagonised someone not so thoroughly linked to you. Or a permaban from just the Discord.

Neither has any history of being this antagonistic towards anyone (Short especially. Addendum: I didn't know about Discord happenings when writing this, but it also just adds to my conviction that Discord will always be a mistake).

I'm not going to argue that their posts weren't retarded. Inviting debate, they were not. And I doubt Rrat (it being a tempban aside) has any particular desire to return.

But the forum's culture does include casually insulting everyone with no one taking genuine offense. Add a general loss of control on your part (and you can't tell me that the smug reply to and permaban of Rrat were the actions of someone in control of themselves) which further fanned the flames and led to a similar loss of control on their part, plus the general and widely shared feeling that TVA just experienced its fall from paradise, and well, you get what we just got.

Given the forum's culture, this was probably inevitable from the moment Tako got permabanned in the fashion he was. The way to prevent it was to slow down escalation (as was done in previous cases of permabans, sockpuppets and drive bys excluded). Too late for that now.

Alas, I'm pretty sure that there's no way back to the TVA of yesterday. That's unfortunate. But I believe it also explains a great deal of the incredibly negative reaction by a large part of the userbase, since their paradise has, indeed, just been lost.

 

[thhrang]

wait what

How do you not know the lore?

 

[The Proctor]

How do you not know the lore?
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[NeneHATE]

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TOUCH GRASS BOSSMAN

 

[The Proctor]

TOUCH GRASS BOSSMAN

IT'S DARK OUTSIDE. THE BIRDS SHIT ON THE GRASS. I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH POOP.

 

[NeneHATE]

IT'S DARK OUTSIDE. THE BIRDS SHIT ON THE GRASS. I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH POOP.

TOUCH THE SHIT OR BECOME A LOLCOW, CHOOSE.

 

[Username Generator]

IT'S DARK OUTSIDE. THE BIRDS SHIT ON THE GRASS. I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH POOP.

Then find something else to do that is not related to the internet. I want this place to still exist when i wake up tomorrow. Sleeping over a problem or just getting away from it for a few hours really does wonders. Please.

 

[electronic elephant]

This is a good opportunity to ask Proctor to rewrite the Server Rules. The bloggy and pretentious way it's structured is seriously off-putting and unhelpful to anyone who's considering joining. Quite frankly, nobody new gives a shit about what an admin wants.

Just make a list of conduct like a normal person and reiterate it to all users, new and old. Add clarifications on ban conditions, the warning system, off-site conduct included. None of this, especially this thread or your blogpost about banning long-time users warrant their existence.
-No oversharing personal details of your own life, including fetishes
-No direct messages towards vtubers that are derogatory in nature
-etc
You get three warnings, you get a week suspension for the next warning etc.

There is a very specific temperament that's needed of an admin that's missing in Proctor. As person responsible for a forum you are faced with people who don't care about what you think but care immensely on what you do. Just state your case in as few words as possible and show good faith by giving the community time to adjust.

@The Proctor, you should really consider implementing this type of suggestion. Even the people that actually end up reading the whole server rules post are going to have the One Punch Man reaction to it.

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Also, Proctor's behavior recently (e.g. sperging out in the ragdoll's chat a while back and RRat's ban today) has been veering towards lolcow behavior. Currently I view him the same way I viewed Rekieta several months ago: hoping he can correct the course.

 

[The Proctor]

@The Proctor, you should really consider implementing this type of suggestion. Even the people that actually end up reading the whole server rules post are going to have the One Punch Man reaction to it.

No.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

I'd wager that they'd have reacted dramatically different if it'd been a one week ban. Or a ban at any time Tako antagonised someone not so thoroughly linked to you. Or a permaban from just the Discord.

Neither has any history of being this antagonistic towards anyone (Short especially. Addendum: I didn't know about Discord happenings when writing this, but it also just adds to my conviction that Discord will always be a mistake).

Not to cherry pick this but I warned about Discord just a couple days ago after Short's infraction there and obviously I wasn't the only one who saw this coming:

Topo Chico is on the money with discord being gay.

It also, without question always leads to a hugbox. And only the faggiest of spergs tend to survive. Ya'll in there should be well aware of that.

Monitoring a similar server let me give you this warning

Don't be surprised if the clock ends up circling one by one as a "leader" (IE woman amrite HARINES?!?) dictates proper cord conduct, and one by one get filtered out to where the clique dominates all

ie Women AMIRITE

 

[Bob from accounting]

This seems retarded. Get your shit together.
Friendly reminder to everyone if you want to interact with 2views or small chubas don't do it on an account associated with this website. Imagine how much could be avoided if you didn't have your name attached to posts of you being an idiot in some streamers chat or sperging about dumbshit in discord servers.

 

[Zizara]

No.

If you are going to be this wilfully autistic on the matter of just having some clear cut and clearly enforceable rules, fine, but don't bitch when people call you a retard for it.

While I'm here, are you going to be addressing your own history of cowtipping and other provocative and reputation-damaging behaviour?

 

[Poyoyo & Jill]

Wow the homeland thread got more pages discussing this shit than Vtubers
Amazing

My General Proctor Zakharov

 

[The Proctor]

If you are going to be this wilfully autistic on the matter of just having some clear cut and clearly enforceable rules, fine, but don't bitch when people call you a retard for it.

The rules are very clear and obvious to anyone with a functioning brain and social awareness.

Those are the people I want posting here.

If you do not have a functioning brain or social awareness, I do not want you here.

It's that simple.

You have no idea how hard it was to write rules that simple and obvious. I actively sat down and thought for several hours 'how could a complete idiot misinterpret these?' and was unable to come up with examples. I have no comprehension of the kind of active, progressive and irreversible brain damage you would need to not understand them. Somebody with 80 IQ could understand them.

 

[furaibou]

IT'S DARK OUTSIDE. THE BIRDS SHIT ON THE GRASS. I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH POOP.

Oh, I would suggest getting a vindaloo or a kebab, but since you don't wanna touch poop...

 

[Superduper Samurai]

How do you not know the lore?
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you know the fact that beef between a 1 view effeminate 2-view groomer (affectionate) and a furry happened on discord is nothing short of poetry

 

[lvl8]

Is this the fat chicks thread?