General Thread v5 Guys: MariMari_EN Edition

[NeneLOVE]

…So how long until there are google docs on the google doc makers? It only takes one vindictive chuuba to expose the skeletons in their closet, especially now that this situation is becoming more and more of a “woe is me” competition between who is affected the most!

I really hope it turns into a Youtube commentary community in 2016 style mexican standoff where everyone throws shit at each other until half of them get fucking wrecked.

 

[Kazuma]

One day of Elder Scrolls and then immediately back to Elden Ring lmao

She was experiencing motion sickness when she was playing Oblivion.

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

…So how long until there are google docs on the google doc makers? It only takes one vindictive chuuba to expose the skeletons in their closet, especially now that this situation is becoming more and more of a “woe is me” competition between who is affected the most!

Either it's in 2 years or the next 2 weeks. This could die down and then only come back up much later, or Sinder counters and everything goes off. Because it's not like Red doesn't have a massive amount of information on everyone else in the sphere.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

…So how long until there are google docs on the google doc makers? It only takes one vindictive chuuba to expose the skeletons in their closet, especially now that this situation is becoming more and more of a “woe is me” competition between who is affected the most!

Vtuber MAD would be the funniest but the one option that could completely break the scene. Especially if a darling like Ironmouse got dragged in, so i wouldnt be surprised if there were actions put in place to prevent that

Unless someone has all the info and nothing to lose/all was lost already....

 

[Sky Shouter]

Sinder's former chief janny trying to pull a "separate art from the artist plz gais! We a community!" hail-mary.



Wanting to separate say, JK Rowling from Harry Potter is one thing because Harry Potter will continue to exist without her.
Being a "Pyro-Pup" means being gooning to a vapid whore with a big titty model. Without Sinder, that community wouldn't exist.

Bro just accept that you and everyone like you is a simp for a woman who is very likely an utterly ruthless, unscrupulous clout-chaser in a scene where such aggression is unbecoming. Who is also a whore.

 

[frz]

So this stuff with Sinder kind of leaves GamerSupps in a awkward spot because Bao is a sponsored talent by them and a big money maker for them even. But Sinder is also a partial owner of GamerSupps so I imagine the company is going to have a talk with Sinder for a potential buyout of her share as what she and her bf/manager did sort of falls under tortious interference.

Best case scenario Jschlatt owns 51% of the company shares, Eric Flayman (gamersupp's founder and CEO) owns 10%, the other 39% are split between 10 "co-owners".
Worst case scenario Jschlatt owns 80%, Eric owns 15% and the other 10 "co-owners" owns 5% -> 0.5% each.
The term literally doesn't have any meaning without actual numbers and contracts backing it.

We joke about this stuff, but unironically, very few women are fit to manage their own personal brand like this. Women are naturally more emotionally-driven than men and have been since the dawn of time, which is what makes having a good mother one of the most important parts of a child's upbringing, and is why women fit naturally into nursing and care-oriented occupations. But it's also a huge weakness in competitive environments, where you need to be confident in what you're doing rather than coming to a standstill every time you get upset or angry.

I understand that we are against whores, but half of this drama is from Redacted who is clearly a guy.
Sure you can argue RETARDED was doing shit under Sinder's order, but "a person fit to manage" should have been doing the opposite of that.

There are examples of good female managers in the vtubing and streaming scene as a whole (i.e that Phase Connect one) and they are generally drama free.

Meanwhile, the opposite is true, male managers/moderators have a much much higher rate of fucking things up as they only become one with ulterior motive like fucking/grooming the streamer in the first place.

 

[La+ de Central Norte]

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Start saving up boys

We should all come together to redeem the SEA Nuke

 

[Hff201]

Just remember, all these women released googledocs in hours in response, some of them over a hundred pages. Let's say you're really motivated and want to write a hundred-page essay, do you think you could write it in less than half a day? No, these bitches had these essays written in advance and ready to drop before this shit started.

As a general thing, this is something else that bothers me about callout posts. The accuser can spend weeks, possibly months, carefully picking apart everything someone has ever done to craft the perfect damning narrative against them; but the accused is expected to have their defence ready to go immediately, and if an hour passes after the document drops and they haven't made a comment the public perception is that they're obviously guilty and trying to hide (or if they do respond and it's sloppy because they've been caught by surprise, everything they say is spun uncharitably against them).

It's even worse if it's the kind of thing that needs some kind of legal consultation, because the Internet moves very quickly while real life moves painfully slow. If you want a solicitor to look over what you're going to say then you're probably gonna be waiting a week at least, by which time your online reputation is dead and buried. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

 

[Abomination]

…So how long until there are google docs on the google doc makers? It only takes one vindictive chuuba to expose the skeletons in their closet, especially now that this situation is becoming more and more of a “woe is me” competition between who is affected the most!

I'm looking forward to when we start dropping Google Docs on on each other here.

I can't wait to learn which one of you is back stabbing the others by trying to prevent @NeneLOVE from making charts for them and keeping him busy with the Brave chart.

 

[Negzana]

I'm looking forward to when we start dropping Google Docs on on each other here.

I can't wait to learn which one of you is back stabbing the others by trying to prevent @NeneLOVE from making charts for them and keeping him busy with the Brave chart.

My Experience with Proctor:

He kept talking about how women are the most duplicitious backstabbing people one could ever meet, how he understands the women, and how much he loves his mother and his guinea fowls and pheasants.

 

[John Vtuber👁️]

I'm looking forward to when we start dropping Google Docs on on each other here.

I can't wait to learn which one of you is back stabbing the others by trying to prevent @NeneLOVE from making charts for them and keeping him busy with the Brave chart.

the BRAVE spies were in the asylum all along, oh no!

 

[Helkar]

Someone just needs a smoking gun so she doesn't succeed in just throwing Red under the bus (I've already seen multiple people claiming what we have isn't enough somehow).

Even if a portion of her viewership can be convinced of this, her clique will not be.
Gonna have to work a bit harder than that.
Though with that Silvervale doc it does start to look increasingly over.

 

[Xuhle]

wow that is doing lemon woman more dirty then all of the cyberlife shit. Also Sinder seems to be actually what we meme about Lumi.
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Terminating my work with Sinder.

introduction & notes I wanted to share my experience with Sinder and Red manipulating me, using me, and dragging me into drama, while sabotaging, slandering & spreading lies about people I thought were her closest friends. Not only do I no longer wish to work with Sinder, but I want to share w...

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MOD EDIT:


RayneDoesStuff's accusations.
Silvervale drops a doc.

If anyone wants to dig through Sinders discord and see if they can find anything. Btw its currently all on lockdown.
Sinder Discord 1
Sinder Discord 2

 

[Last Of The Mohicans]

As a general thing, this is something else that bothers me about callout posts. The accuser can spend weeks, possibly months, carefully picking apart everything someone has ever done to craft the perfect damning narrative against someone; but the accused is expected to have their defence ready to go immediately, and if an hour passes after the document drops and they haven't made a comment the public perception is that they're obviously guilty and trying to hide (or if they do respond and it's sloppy because they've been caught by surprise, everything they say is spun uncharitably against them).

It's even worse if it's the kind of thing that needs some kind of legal consultation, because the Internet moves very quickly while real life moves painfully slow. If you want a solicitor to look over what you're going to say then you're probably gonna be waiting a week at least, by which time your online reputation is dead and buried. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

ProJared

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

As a general thing, this is something else that bothers me about callout posts. The accuser can spend weeks, possibly months, carefully picking apart everything someone has ever done to craft the perfect damning narrative against someone; but the accused is expected to have their defence ready to go immediately, and if an hour passes after the document drops and they haven't made a comment the public perception is that they're obviously guilty and trying to hide (or if they do respond and it's sloppy because they've been caught by surprise, everything they say is spun uncharitably against them).

It's even worse if it's the kind of thing that needs some kind of legal consultation, because the Internet moves very quickly while real life moves painfully slow. If you want a solicitor to look over what you're going to say then you're probably gonna be waiting a week at least, by which time your online reputation is dead and buried. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

That's pretty much it. You can hire a crisis PR team and they'll have a short statement out in a couple of hours after they assess the situation. You have to counter-narrative unless you can categorically deny everything.

 

[Hff201]

ProJared

ProJared was in a very rare position where he was able to prove a negative on the actually serious allegations (that he was asking underage girls for nudes), because one of them said they were old enough in a chatlog, and by sheer luck the other one had made a blog post about being in a mental hospital at the same time he was allegedly talking to them. Most people don't have that option since it's often difficult to prove you didn't do something, and in ProJared's case it still took months of lost revenue while he was getting everything cleared before he was able to put his own side of the story out there.

Even if you win, you still lose.

 

[Banana Hammock]

She was experiencing motion sickness when she was playing Oblivion.

And you believed her? You didn't hear what she muttered under her breath while she was ending stream? "Elder Scrolls? More like Elder Snores. Time to get back to a real fantasy game."

Anyway, come watch Mumei's final (probably for real, with her throat problems) stream.

 

[shipmate]

The question is though: Is she compliant out of malice and greed, going along with all this because she just wants money no matter what, or is she compliant out of ignorance/fear and she's just worried that if she rocks the boat she'll lose a big client?

The end result being that she's dropped Sinder over all this, I'm of the opinion that it's the latter and she's just hit a limit, realizing she's being manipulated and didn't want to get dragged through all this bullshit and was just trying to navigate things.

Nano is brazilian, she got some street smarts from starting on Anime Friends, one of the biggest anime conventions in south america.
I read her behavior as lead by profit, and it's a very "woman" thing to be evasive when dealing about the possibility of a glass ceiling like sabotaging competition. Bossman is right on his assessment, her position is now secured, even if she's not 100% in the right as she did lie to her own customers for a better deal, it just happens that someone might've talked to her and she weighted what was to be lost if she didn't side with Bao and what was to be gained if she stayed with Sinder, as we already established these docs drops were too well timed to be coincidental.
Not evil but not innocent. Sought to "fix" her mistakes by standing on the right side of the story and provide more evidence as fuel. At least that's how I see it.

The asylum's holofags, /liggers/, big indie watchers, Phasefags and sole remaining Vshojo/Nijfag who is the same person uniting to laugh at the twitch hoes warms my heart

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United against whores in this case.

That's what happens when your oshi is not a lesbian or a femcel

Most lesbian chuubas are performative, just to keep the simps in place. You're better than this.

>Insert "Yadda yadda, women are better when somebody tells them not to be menhera, yadda yadda"

Evergreen.

HOWEVER, I'm FASCINATED to see if there's any ramifications when it comes to that fucking TCG, given that it looks like Shylily is the sole-owner of that shit.

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Speaking of that, she's under heat from the TCG community because she's a bimbo who doesn't understand that a Trading Card Game need to be functional, and forcing buyers to "proxy the card" and "ignore the text" is a terrible take on your own shit being remade for the third time, transforming the first batch in useless baseball cards. I'm trying to find the clip to no avail, but I'm pretty sure she even says something stupid like "TCG players are so entitled".
Interesting how there's not a single drama channel covering it, filthy Yamanbasnakes.

As a friendly advice, autist artist vtubers sre often good oshis, they're usually away from this kind of drama...

SquChan literally coombaits using her own body, Anny have multiple meltdowns and backstage drama because of her whorish behavior and orbiting Vedal, there was another indie doing nasty stuff, it's just your experience.
However, you're not completely wrong: Piffle, Aleda, Reddy, JurjChungus, NagiNasu, for a few good examples.

Didn't the group raora was part of, which were all artist chuubas, split apart in a dramastorm similar to this?

Wrong, they split amicably, at least on the outside. Yocchan jumped, Raora was scouted for Holo and the group itself didn't have much going on without all members so they just went their way, nothing big out of it.

Looking over it, this Silvervale doc is really the kill shot. Silver's doc doesn't even allow her to hide behind the "um, my boyf-I mean manager did this behind my back! They're fired now, it's all good!". Silver has her dead to rights to being a manipulative two-faced cunt that sabotaged her purely because Silver didn't want to be used by her.

Grimmi





I feel kind of bad given that she is missing some of her brain but at the same time this comment really stood out in a Nolan esque way

You need to consider she's an easy target for anyone wanting to get laid, not only missing a piece of brain but being raised in the middle of multiple cults with a schizo mother who malnourished her on purpose. A severe case of man-made naivety.

We should all come together to redeem the SEA Nuke

Cabrón half this forum's latino, we don't earn enough to get those points.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

ProJared

Didnt Pro Jared have alot of luck because people found out his alleged cheated on wife was also e-dating a blonde twink when her main grievance was being cheated on?

 

[dkn2038]

Nano is brazilian, she got some street smarts from starting on Anime Friends, one of the biggest anime conventions in south america.
I read her behavior as lead by profit, and it's a very "woman" thing to be evasive when dealing about the possibility of a glass ceiling like sabotaging competition. Bossman is right on his assessment, her position is now secured, even if she's not 100% in the right as she did lie to her own customers for a better deal, it just happens that someone might've talked to her and she weighted what was to be lost if she didn't side with Bao and what was to be gained if she stayed with Sinder, as we already established these docs drops were too well timed to be coincidental.
Not evil but not innocent. Sought to "fix" her mistakes by standing on the right side of the story and provide more evidence as fuel. At least that's how I see it.

United against whores in this case.

Most lesbian chuubas are performative, just to keep the simps in place. You're better than this.

Evergreen.

Speaking of that, she's under heat from the TCG community because she's a bimbo who doesn't understand that a Trading Card Game need to be functional, and forcing buyers to "proxy the card" and "ignore the text" is a terrible take on your own shit being remade for the third time, transforming the first batch in useless baseball cards. I'm trying to find the clip to no avail, but I'm pretty sure she even says something stupid like "TCG players are so entitled".
Interesting how there's not a single drama channel covering it, filthy Yamanbasnakes.

SquChan literally coombaits using her own body, Anny have multiple meltdowns and backstage drama because of her whorish behavior and orbiting Vedal, there was another indie doing nasty stuff, it's just your experience.
However, you're not completely wrong: Piffle, Aleda, Reddy, JurjChungus, NagiNasu, for a few good examples.

Wrong, they split amicably, at least on the outside. Yocchan jumped, Raora was scouted for Holo and the group itself didn't have much going on without all members so they just went their way, nothing big out of it.

You need to consider she's an easy target for anyone wanting to get laid, not only missing a piece of brain but being raised in the middle of multiple cults with a schizo mother who malnourished her on purpose. A severe case of man-made naivety.

Cabrón half this forum's latino, we don't earn enough to get those points.

SEA are asian latinos, specially fiipinos