Vidya Games Thread

[MrProcessor]

This direct was kind of like the old directs for the 3DS towards the end of its life where it was weird ports (eg: Luigi's Mansion, Kirby's Epic Yarn, and the ports of M&L games that drove their studio into bankruptcy) and a few cool games. It wasn't bad but you can tell the sun is setting for the Switch soon. I left happy with Side Order info and the TTYD remake. Really kind of funny (yet sad) that Metroid Prime 4 which was originally advertised in year 1 of the Switch's life is looking more like a launch title for the successor (that implies it leaves vaporware status though).

There is good emulation for the Switch now on Steam Deck and other handheld Deck type computers (as well as standard PCs for those who don't care about portability). It's far from perfect, but it works for a lot of games. This inevitably means the Switch needs to be replaced, with something that can hold off the pirates for a couple years. I was actually surprised how good Switch emulation is when someone knows what they are doing. However, if a game isn't on the compatible list you'll see some weird texture problems and other problems.

A lot of people say Umbrella Corp sucked but they did have some fans that went to bat for it. 5 is iffy because it takes 2 people to become an actually fun game. Most people would say 6 is where the quality nosedives.

Arguably, games that weren't good in the first place are better choices for remakes than actually good games.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

People said that? I thought the consensus was always that she was only there for tits.

why do you think they were saying it?

Edit: Jokes aside i think Jennifer Lawrence were making people give fox some leeway in the "refuse to emote" category. When it turned out shes actually an amazing actress and was acting emotionally dead because thats the role.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Though the funny part with Sony is that I've talked about for a number of years that Phil looked at the landscape after taking over as the head of Xbox and realized they were never winning a console war. Xbox has been full "we're a platform for gaming" ever since. One of the Unity devs said there's 25 million GamePass subs. That's ~200 million USD in revenue per month. ~2.5 Billion USD a year in Revenue on GamePass. And that's before direct sales from playing on GamePass. As a result of Xbox's actions, Sony has really obliterated the cheap 3rd party exclusive market on their platform. They don't support it, so it doesn't exist. It's either Big Budget Games or you're playing CoD there. It's wild to watch the changes, really.

Yeah, that's the wild concept for Gamepass, it allows Microsoft to bleed out Playstation without worrying about Xbox's actual success or producing bangers themselves. The past decade saw the smaller budget 3rd party/non-indie games start to suffer as people would just pass them up entirely. What a lot of people didn't understand is that the death of video rental stores like Blockbuster hurt smaller 3rd party devs a lot because that was a nice cash infusion. As a small-to-medium size dev, you could rely on rental stores like Blockbuster to buy at least 1 copy and if you were lucky, maybe even multiple copies. Multiply that across all the stores and you've already made a lot of sales before having to worry about the gamers themselves buying your product to keep you afloat. That did mean there was a lot more shovelware on consoles back in the 90s/2000s but that meant you'd also find diamonds in the rough from devs making a tight and focused game.

Gamepass has been bringing this back as much smaller budget games can get expect a little cushion from Microsoft buying Gamepass exclusitivity from them. The plus side is that Microsoft's game selection process does a better job (still not perfect) of keeping shitty games out of its ecosystem than some Blockbuster manager in 2002.

There is good emulation for the Switch now on Steam Deck and other handheld Deck type computers (as well as standard PCs for those who don't care about portability). It's far from perfect, but it works for a lot of games. This inevitably means the Switch needs to be replaced, with something that can hold off the pirates for a couple years. I was actually surprised how good Switch emulation is when someone knows what they are doing. However, if a game isn't on the compatible list you'll see some weird texture problems and other problems.

Arguably, games that weren't good in the first place are better choices for remakes than actually good games.

TOTK really was a canary in a coal mine for the Switch's life cycle. The game ran at shit FPS and using the game's core mechanic, fusing, would often dip FPS into the teens. Meanwhile it got leaked early and people were playing it on PC at 60fps.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

TOTK really was a canary in a coal mine for the Switch's life cycle. The game ran at shit FPS and using the game's core mechanic, fusing, would often dip FPS into the teens. Meanwhile it got leaked early and people were playing it on PC at 60fps.

meanwhile im over here playing it just fine on a switch i got at launch ive had more frame drops playing breath of the wild then tears.

 

[agility_]

1) It's megan fox, who cares.
2) It's mortal kombat's "story mode", who caress
3) Please find some real world problems to bitch about

 

[CalciumAnimal]

3) Please find some real world problems to bitch about

Megan Fox personally came into my house and assaulted me with bad acting (in this game i bought)

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

I mean there's always going to be a group that likes something that is disliked by the majority. Now that I think about it, I tend to be in the minority... Well now I'm scared I'm going to like it.
I think I'll hold off this time.

I should say I have played 4, 5, 7, and all the new remakes, and yeah 5 is a little meh alone but it's still alright. 7 was okay, I wasn't amazed but it wasn't boring for me. I do remember some talks about 6, and I think @BlueSharkTV and @Punished Anime Discusser said it was just barely okay?

I was going to say "was seven really that bad? I dunno..." but yeah everyone said 6 was pretty shit in terms of story and whatnot. I don't really mind that too much for RE games, but yeh. As for the spinoffs I was told to get Revelations 1 and 2 but I'm still debating on it at the moment.

edit: honestly I have heard so many different opinions on 6 I might actually need to play it to even begin to understand.

5 leaned too much into the 'action game' trope that 4 had started setting by diverging from the series standard tank controls at that time, since Capcom and their inability to actually understand consumers thought "Oh it has to be the over the top action they actually liked". On top of it they had the whole forced partner thing which really just made it into an extended escort mission since Sheva's only real use is breeding stock. 6 is even more of Capcom not getting the message and thinking "Maybe 5 wasn't ACTION enough" and going whole-ass Michael Bay on the franchise while also trying to close off like, 5 different storylines all at once.

I can't comment on Umbrella Corps because I'm not sure if it's what I'm thinking of or if there's another game like that which is what I played. All I remember of some 'Umbrella merc corps co-op shooter game' was that is was very mid, very repetitive and didn't offer a whole lot of incentive to actually replay that much. In all I've not bothered to even look into them that much as the only RE co-op they've ever gotten right was Outbreak and Capcom is allergic to learning, so they've never tried to do another civilian survival game since with improvements. They seem to believe that some kind of fucking PvP competitive shit is what people want, which, uh...



lmao

What the hell have I gotten myself into.

Spoiler: this is some shit

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What the fuck.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

5 leaned too much into the 'action game' trope that 4 had started setting by diverging from the series standard tank controls at that time, since Capcom and their inability to actually understand consumers thought "Oh it has to be the over the top action they actually liked". On top of it they had the whole forced partner thing which really just made it into an extended escort mission since Sheva's only real use is breeding stock. 6 is even more of Capcom not getting the message and thinking "Maybe 5 wasn't ACTION enough" and going whole-ass Michael Bay on the franchise while also trying to close off like, 5 different storylines all at once.

I can't comment on Umbrella Corps because I'm not sure if it's what I'm thinking of or if there's another game like that which is what I played. All I remember of some 'Umbrella merc corps co-op shooter game' was that is was very mid, very repetitive and didn't offer a whole lot of incentive to actually replay that much. In all I've not bothered to even look into them that much as the only RE co-op they've ever gotten right was Outbreak and Capcom is allergic to learning, so they've never tried to do another civilian survival game since with improvements. They seem to believe that some kind of fucking PvP competitive shit is what people want, which, uh...

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lmao



What the fuck.

Thinking of Operation Racoon City? I actually enjoyed that game as it was kind of a PS2 throwback era Socom versus Zombies experience. Fucking weird as fuck but, amusing in its own way. Real buggy too which was cool

 

[BlueSharkTV]

What the fuck.

it's an in-depth guide made by centurion, it goes over revelations 2 raid mode.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

5 leaned too much into the 'action game' trope that 4 had started setting by diverging from the series standard tank controls at that time, since Capcom and their inability to actually understand consumers thought "Oh it has to be the over the top action they actually liked".

are you telling me with a straight face that the other the top bits are not the stuff people still talk about today especially with the remake. Mecha Sal Doggo BEEG FISH oh and all the Ashley jokes.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

Thinking of Operation Racoon City? I actually enjoyed that game as it was kind of a PS2 throwback era Socom versus Zombies experience. Fucking weird as fuck but, amusing in its own way. Real buggy too which was cool

That's the one. I stopped keeping track of anything Capcom that wasn't Dragon's Dogma 2 because I just can't be bothered unless it's REm4ke.

it's an in-depth guide made by centurion, it goes over revelations 2 raid mode.

The fuck is a Revelations 2? I didn't read the bible sequel, I prefer my fiction storybooks to have wizards or stat blocks at least.

are you telling me with a straight face that the other the top bits are not the stuff people still talk about today especially with the remake. Mecha Sal Doggo BEEG FISH oh and all the Ashley jokes.

RE4 had some cheesy shit in it but Capcom misread why people liked 4 and continued to double down in the wrong direction.

 

[Bug Eater]

I think this time I'll hold off on 6, as I either made a mistake or a grave mistake of buying Revelations 2.

Honestly I enjoyed Revelations 2, it's not amazing but pretty decent if you can pick it up on sale. Both of the Revelations games probably work better as portable titles (but I think the 2nd game is better in that respect, IIRC they released that one simultaneously on PS Vita and console/PC)

My sewer vote goes to Umbrella Corps, I played it for like an hour and never touched it again - it's mid at best and I'd imagine that barely anyone is playing it online anymore.

 

[That Chuuba Enjoyer]

Outbreak 1 and 2 are one of the best resident evil games spin-off wise. I don't think code veronica counts as a spin-off, cause technically that is resident evil 3 and name was changed to please their contract with PlayStation for three exclusive resident evil games.

Outbreak has its limitation as a early network multiplayer game for ps2, but it really capture the gameplay of earlier resident evil games and some improvements to it. like your character auto aiming in direction when pointing a weapon if using tank controls, character can have a chance to go into bleedout mode where you can crawl around and be picked up by an ally, interesting levels in raccoon city, zoo, train station, and etc.

It used to not have voice chat which kind of hurt it communication wise in a multiplayer game, but now there's things like discord so you can vc with people while playing. also easy to play now too with download packages with everything setup for you to play online, either on emulator or original ps2 hardware!

Amazing soundtrack too:

Review:


Hope we get a third or a remaster/remake of first two. Games can do better now with technology being capable of it now.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

RE4 had some cheesy shit in it but Capcom misread why people liked 4 and continued to double down in the wrong direction.

Really, they were just ahead of their time with the over the top cheese, because people seem to fucking love Leon parrying chainsaws and having minecart races against doctor Salvadors and suicide bombers while his funny Mexican (Spanish) sidekick makes wacky woohoo haha jokes all of a sudden.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

Really, they were just ahead of their time with the over the top cheese, because people seem to fucking love Leon parrying chainsaws and having minecart races against doctor Salvadors and suicide bombers while his funny Mexican (Spanish) sidekick makes wacky woohoo haha jokes all of a sudden.

That's what I'm saying, there might have been some contention over it being goofy as it was but there's no doubt that the campiness of it definitely grew on a lot of people and while REm4ke is a bit turned down in some ways, it retains a new era of cheesy shit for a new era of media being nearly 20 years later and doesn't entirely abandon it all but just finds new ways to reuse it without it being a giant robot statue chase.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

That's what I'm saying, there might have been some contention over it being goofy as it was but there's no doubt that the campiness of it definitely grew on a lot of people and while REm4ke is a bit turned down in some ways, it retains a new era of cheesy shit for a new era of media being nearly 20 years later and doesn't entirely abandon it all but just finds new ways to reuse it without it being a giant robot statue chase.

still mildly upset we didin't get sal's stupid statue mug in HD chasing your ass down.was looking forward to it so much.

but yeah most of their wackywoohooo bullshit went into DMC.

 

[ValkyrieAce]

Y'all talking like RE's story is high art. It's always been dumb Umbrella shit. Part of the reason why 7 is my least favorite, because it's missing most of the dumb Umbrella shit.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

That's what I'm saying, there might have been some contention over it being goofy as it was but there's no doubt that the campiness of it definitely grew on a lot of people and while REm4ke is a bit turned down in some ways, it retains a new era of cheesy shit for a new era of media being nearly 20 years later and doesn't entirely abandon it all but just finds new ways to reuse it without it being a giant robot statue chase.

The consequences of the cheese reassignment surgery in RE4make were a fucking disaster if you ask me. I mean, parrying chainsaws is cool, and I'm not that broken up over losing the Salazar gundam, but there's a lot of stuff that they genuinely butchered in an effort to make things more serious. Saddler believing his own bullshit, him and Salazar both barely being in the game because their phonecalls all got cut, Krauser's le epic and dark OC donut steel backstory. Some of the goofier areas or gameplay segments being gone, like the castle's giant flamethrower lava room, or the undeground village, or U3's dogshit bossfight being gone, the voice acting for everyone except Leon and Ashley being so dogshit it even ruins classic lines, etc..

But this trend will continue, because a solid 70% of RE's fanbase are people who weren't alive when original RE4 came out, didn't touch RE games until 7, and now have this belief that RE was always meant to be a serious and dark horror franchise and that 5, 6, Rev1&2 are some kind of deviation, meanwhile RE1 had you fighting fucking sharks leaping out of a pool, RE2 had a TMNT sewer gator as a boss, and RE3 opens on Jill frontflipping through an explosion before blowing up 12 zombies with an explosive barrel. For fucks sakes, even up to Revelations 2 every scene featuring Barry is straight out of an 80s action movie

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

The consequences of the cheese reassignment surgery in RE4make were a fucking disaster if you ask me. I mean, parrying chainsaws is cool, and I'm not that broken up over losing the Salazar gundam, but there's a lot of stuff that they genuinely butchered in an effort to make things more serious. Saddler believing his own bullshit, him and Salazar both barely being in the game because their phonecalls all got cut, Krauser's le epic and dark OC donut steel backstory. Some of the goofier areas or gameplay segments being gone, like the castle's giant flamethrower lava room, or the undeground village, or U3's dogshit bossfight being gone, the voice acting for everyone except Leon and Ashley being so dogshit it even ruins classic lines, etc..

But this trend will continue, because a solid 70% of RE's fanbase are people who weren't alive when original RE4 came out, didn't touch RE games until 7, and now have this belief that RE was always meant to be a serious and dark horror franchise and that 5, 6, Rev1&2 are some kind of deviation, meanwhile RE1 had you fighting fucking sharks leaping out of a pool, RE2 had a TMNT sewer gator as a boss, and RE3 opens on Jill frontflipping through an explosion before blowing up 12 zombies with an explosive barrel. For fucks sakes, even up to Revelations 2 every scene featuring Barry is straight out of an 80s action movie

The perils of a series lasting long enough that children of the original fans grow into adulthood hearing the name and the company, now staffed mostly with new people that also may not have been born until after the original titles release, need to find ways to continue to capitalize on ancient IPs because it's no longer cost-efficient to launch a new series with how expensive it is now to create these works.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Y'all talking like RE's story is high art. It's always been dumb Umbrella shit. Part of the reason why 7 is my least favorite, because it's missing most of the dumb Umbrella shit.

i mean in general? sure? But theres plenty of other bullshit umbrella is the ultimate cause yes but umbrella is only one factor.

Birkin The Spenser Estate Salvador Tyrant By products of umbrella or not they all have their own things going on even friggin Wesker the most direct influence umbrella has storywise does have his own agenda going on.

i'm pretty sure one of the games outright says Umbrella is not the problem it's the people using it's (seemingly) infinite resources funding and manpower to do zombie outbreak #4522257 which while also dumb to absolve Umbrella of everything it does I think it's is fair to blame the Morally bankrupt scientist or actual cult leader or villain of the game