I've never been to a convention and don't understand the appeal, and I am not going to drop money into a trip nor san francisco's local economy either, so offkai's conduct doesn't directly affect me. It does seem like fans like these kinds of things though.
Arguing about whether it's appropriate to talk about problems like this is a time waster. In any conflict, the troll who says 'both sides are a problem' in response to someone being abused and complaining about it, is siphoning valuable energy and time.
If vtuber conventions are important, then either employ strategy to make the current ones behave appropriately, or make a better one (edit: and make the other lose). If they aren't important, then don't waste time thinking about them. If they are important, then saying "you should stop" is ban-worthy, and saying "I'm tired" is just noise.
I think its wise to be smart/strategic about how you expend energy if you decide it's worth fighting. Wasting time and energy is why they do things like using a couple of cars to cause traffic slowdowns for thousands of people. If your strategy is to endlessly argue with people disagreeing in some niche corner of the internet, you are losing.
The most important thing to remember is if your strategy involves other people, you must be mindful of infiltration and betrayal, and bake in safeguards, because the opposing force is more than just low-iq npcs.
Arguing about whether it's appropriate to talk about problems like this is a time waster. In any conflict, the troll who says 'both sides are a problem' in response to someone being abused and complaining about it, is siphoning valuable energy and time.
If vtuber conventions are important, then either employ strategy to make the current ones behave appropriately, or make a better one (edit: and make the other lose). If they aren't important, then don't waste time thinking about them. If they are important, then saying "you should stop" is ban-worthy, and saying "I'm tired" is just noise.
I think its wise to be smart/strategic about how you expend energy if you decide it's worth fighting. Wasting time and energy is why they do things like using a couple of cars to cause traffic slowdowns for thousands of people. If your strategy is to endlessly argue with people disagreeing in some niche corner of the internet, you are losing.
The most important thing to remember is if your strategy involves other people, you must be mindful of infiltration and betrayal, and bake in safeguards, because the opposing force is more than just low-iq npcs.
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