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Termination of Selen Tatsuki and the Glorious Revival of Dokibird

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MerelyTourist

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Yeah the conditions are different but imagine the absolute flex it would be if it happen, YAGOO would be laughing his ass after JP Nijisister called his agency a poor copy of Nijisanji back in the day
I think unanimous collective sentiment here is: Holy fuckity, it's good that holo turned out to be poor copy of niji, and not excact copy
 

Horo7618

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We haven't seen a extreme bad faith termination reincarnate into success then collab with Holo afaik.
That only matters if people are asking for collabs and getting turned down though. Are there any terminated vtubers out there who probably would be collabing with holo if management wasn't blocking it? I mean, apart from the ex-holos who are almost certainly persona non grata....
 

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I think its still to early to ask if Holos would collab with her
Its obvious that they can do a cheeky PL collab like the Holostars did when they didnt have Lethal Company perms but the answer to a dokibird collab is probably months to a year away
 

Cubanodun

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I think unanimous collective sentiment here is: Holy fuckity, it's good that holo turned out to be poor copy of niji, and not excact copy
Kinda helped they got a Ex Niji on their army so they probably know how the sweatshop runs
 

MerelyTourist

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This topic is empty rrat and will always be. Now we just don't have any statistical base, then we won't know if someone will decide to suddenly change the rules.
 

YugiBro

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This topic is empty rrat and will always be. Now we just don't have any statistical base, then we won't know if someone will decide to suddenly change the rules.
There will be a lot of empty rratting in this thread til we get something happen to make some fucking content to make some less empty rratting over.

Can't wait for the Dokibird stream tomorrow.
 

MerelyTourist

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Here's some material: somehow everyone skipped this very nice confirmation


Not-totally-empty rrat: imagine niji suddenly not getting perms from EA anymore? But Doki is way too nice to allow such shit.

Proctor's kamiioshii started stream btw and talking kurosanji
 

Todd's Strongest Howard

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:PomuAngry: how can I justifiably harass them now DDDD:

  1. They're women and deserve it.
  2. They're asian and deserve it.
  3. They're dumb idiots and deserve it.
  4. It's funny, and they deserve it.
  5. Others are doing it and you don't want to be 🌈 DIFFERENT 🌈 , do you?
There will be a lot of empty rratting in this thread til we get something happen to make some fucking content to make some less empty rratting over.

Can't wait for the Dokibird stream tomorrow.

But random bullshit is when it's at it's most fun! You will post your unsubstantiated rrats and like it, kiddo!
 

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Superduper Samurai

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Here's some material: somehow everyone skipped this very nice confirmation


Not-totally-empty rrat: imagine niji suddenly not getting perms from EA anymore? But Doki is way too nice to allow such shit.

Proctor's kamiioshii started stream btw and talking kurosanji

US company called worst in america for consecutive years would suddenly care that a random Japanese company that used to heavily advertise their f2p shooter bullied a random chink canadian to almost death im sure
 

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Not-totally-empty rrat: imagine niji suddenly not getting perms from EA anymore? But Doki is way too nice to allow such shit.
EA would sign long term sponsorship with them after hearing that. Black companies should stick together after all :smugina:
Jokes aside, EA has no horse in this race, and wouldnt be involved one way or another. Its not their problem.
 

Malchior

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Not-totally-empty rrat: imagine niji suddenly not getting perms from EA anymore? But Doki is way too nice to allow such shit.
of all game companies you expect one that is at least as scummier than Niji to negate permissions?
 

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US company called worst in america for consecutive years would suddenly care that a random Japanese company that used to heavily advertise their f2p shooter bullied a random chink canadian to almost death im sure
EA is notorious for anti-consumer stuff, but their employee stuff is actually on the better end for video game companies. Not good admittedly cause video game companies are shitshows, but still.
 

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CyYu interviewed for Niji and they forbade him from his career should he join
Full vid

Clip of most important part
 

The Rratarded Alt

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EA is notorious for anti-consumer stuff, but their employee stuff is actually on the better end for video game companies. Not good admittedly cause video game companies are shitshows, but still.
They are regarded as one of the best AAA workplaces to work for. They overhauled their culture after getting outed as being awful during the 2000s.

The unfortunate truth is that studios under EA are apparently given a lot of freedom. Meaning when all these beloved developers shit the bed, they are usually doing it to themselves and not because of an EA mandate.
 

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CyYu interviewed for Niji and they forbade him from his career should he join
Full vid

Clip of most important part

Management can be part time but the talents can't be.
 

Malchior

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They are regarded as one of the best AAA workplaces to work for. They overhauled their culture after getting outed as being awful during the 2000s.

The unfortunate truth is that studios under EA are apparently given a lot of freedom. Meaning when all these beloved developers shit the bed, they are usually doing it to themselves and not because of an EA mandate.
being a good place to work doesn't always equals in a good product served to the public... most of EA games could be rebranded as "Micro transaction - the game" and no one would notice...

Also there's nothing wrong in making games being profitable it's just that EA has one of the worst rep and games like that football/soccer one where you need to gacha for athletes also don't help...
 

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They are regarded as one of the best AAA workplaces to work for. They overhauled their culture after getting outed as being awful during the 2000s.

The unfortunate truth is that studios under EA are apparently given a lot of freedom. Meaning when all these beloved developers shit the bed, they are usually doing it to themselves and not because of an EA mandate.
I stand corrected then, was not aware they overhauled their workplace
Guess thats why Ubi, Riot and Blizzard have had scandals but EA hasnt
 

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If anything, one comment from, say, BuffPup outweighs million comments of viewers and 2-views. Verbal community responses doesn't really matter in general.
What does the opinion of a random indie matter for? I doubt investors and company higher-ups care or even know who that is.
I think unanimous collective sentiment here is: Holy fuckity, it's good that holo turned out to be poor copy of niji, and not excact copy
Holo has never been a copy of Niji or vice versa.
For one holo came first, starting in september 2017 while Niji was created in february 2018. Same with their respective EN branches where Holo started in september 2020 and Niji in may of 2021.

Even if you argue that Holo "copied" Niji's use of live2D (I'd call that more of an industry innovation since it changed what vtubing even WAS) Holo has never really tried to emulate Niji except for two instances: Tempus and HoloID, both of which are DEBATABLY responses to Niji's expansions.

In all other aspects Holo had it's own road and generally copied Idol culture much more than the "just regular streamers" identity that Niji took on, which is why Hololive vtubers are called "Talents" aka; performers and Niji vtubers are called "Livers" aka; just livestreamers. Neither company has ever tried to be like the other on a fundamental level.
 

MerelyTourist

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Company can be nice place and good work culture, but it's all soured when your project is thwarted into incoherent donation dumpster.
 
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