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Sinder Containment Thread

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Bao's VOD: a cathartic conversation
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Video: https://pixeldrain.com/u/sYsKyjhv
Audio Only: https://pixeldrain.com/u/xH31Y9By

Still listening to it.

  • Shylily was the one that initiated the talk, right after Bao's IUD removal, while she was recovering with a really bad induced period (hormonal turmoil).
  • After she saw the screenshots she drove to Tara's (who?) house where they had the phone call, crying, and decided she shouldn't be alone.
  • Mentions how she was feeling all emotions at the same time while trying to rationalize it and put herself in Sinder's place (consequence of the feeling of betrayal, been there).
  • Goes on hindsight where Sinder was warming up to everyone in her circle while getting colder to her, at the time rationalizing as her brainworms and blaming herself imagining she did something wrong when she was ignored, but culminates in being much worse than what she thought.
    • "I just kept asking myself: out of everyone in our friend group, why was it me? What did I do differently? And for so long, I was jealous of how warm they treated my friends and I wondered why it felt so different towards me.".
  • Bao friends waited her to come home from the hospital and recover a bit before they told her, sat on the information for almost a week. As soon as they told her, everyone brainstormed possible solutions and what to do next.
  • Repeats from time to time that their friendship was entangled with their real life (they probably hang together a lot by how she stresses this fact).
  • Starts elaborating on how important a debut is for a vtuber, how stressful project management and that's there's a big team behind it, then goes on how hard it is to pivot and reestructure the schedule after that kind of sudden break out. Was devastated after the cancellation, to the point of deleting the teaser tweet because she couldn't look at it anymore.
  • Didn't want to have another artist to draw over the design or mimic Nano's style. Messaged Nano at the time that even if it took years to make the sexy model she'd wait for her.
  • "I think there's so many ways to be competitive and not hurt other people in the process. Even when she was so much smaller than me and was just starting out I still remember, showing up, on her stream and making a little bit out of it. I think I speak for all my friends but, that we wouldn't be where we are if it weren't for each other. And I've always felt that way that every success that each of us has is everyone's success. It's so fucking cheesy to say it out loud, it sounds like the end of Mean Girls (2004) when they take the tiara and break it in little pieces and spread it around- I've always felt that way with my friends and we know how ruthless this sphere of streaming is, we know how vile it can get, how tough it is and how so many times when we're hurt when we see something awful and just wanna quit but we have to keep going, we have to... we have to just ignore but there's only so much one person can take.".
  • "And I know it's a super stupid and niche problem to have. I feel that if I explain the situation to a therapist they would just fucking explode. I guess it's such a privilege to be where we are and who we are that... I just don't know, like... and that's the most fucked up part about it is, like, the whole time I was like 'What did I do? What did I do?'."
  • Questions why was she even considered a threat as she considered Sinder a bigger success, that there was no need to kick the ladder down.
  • Asks why was she called a thief when she spent five hours with her editor convincing she would never stop being friends with both Sinder and him even if he took the exclusivity deal (this was in the editor doc).
  • Points how she didn't even add personal anecdotes on her Google Doc, just what was on the screenshots and hard evidence because she knows how evil and fucked up this shit can get.
  • "And the whole time you do not know how many times I was told to put in my Google Doc the fact that you had a significant other, and no matter how many people told me to put in and how stupid I would be to not put it in, I could not bring myself to put it in, because I knew what it would do to your reputation and you could not spare the same thought for me. And it would be so easy for me to prove, that you have sent the messages but I couldn't do it. Because in the end, I still wouldn't do that to you, and I wonder why you would do that to me."
  • When her model was cancelled, Bao was recovering from surgery, bedridden, and all her friends knew because she's open about it. Asks how could she been scheming to take Sinder's career in that state.
  • Looked for any semblance of acknowledgement for their friendship in Sinder's apology, to no avail, still searching for it.
  • Could easily turn this into vengeance but focused on the evidence of sabotage, considering how outfits and debuts are tied to holidays and dates that aren't easily available, implying she targetted them.
  • Nihmune forgave Sinder for missing her concert that was being planned by both of them for over a year, devastating Numi.
  • Mention no matter how depressed and stuck in bed she was last year, she managed to fly 6 hours to NY to be there with her.
  • "Every single pivotal moment where you had the chance to make the good choice, to be a good person and a good friend, you chose not to be. And no matter how many times me and our friends tried to wrap our heads around it and tried to make sense about it we can't, because every single time we came to the realization it wasn't what we would do if we cared."
  • Goes on how small they all started and how far they got, from 100 to 3k viewers, but Sinder let jealousy take ahold of her. "It's not feeling of jealousy but how you act upon it."
  • Disassociates and calms down, it's mostly silent here, takes her Advil and goes to bed.
I thought this would be entertaining but it's rather grim. It's woman's psychology that doesn't address the mistakes of their way (lewdtubing, cloutchasing, etc) but I give Bao the benefit of the doubt because she did start with music. It's how they say, hate the game, not the player.

Anyway, Sinder's not only a whore but a cunt as well. I'd never expect Bao holding back after others pushed her to throw Sinder to the dogs, even with solid proof, she decided to hold back. She's a real one, and perhaps because of that fact that she's betrayed so often (don't forget Bao is one of the most scammed vtubers out there, she's treated like a beaten babushka).
 
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Johnny Jambalaya

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I've moved 500+ posts to this thread. Thankfully, the threadmarks are still intact. Feel free to report posts moved in error or ones that I missed. I only briefly scanned over each post before marking it to be moved. I haven't read any of the docs (and frankly don't care to) so it was as good as I could do for now. This GOOGLE DOCKEY image was funny, though:
Feel free to suggest a more interesting name for the thread and I will change it. I will also pin this thread to the notice on the site header.
 
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PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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Bao's VOD: a cathartic conversation

Video: https://pixeldrain.com/u/sYsKyjhv
Audio Only: https://pixeldrain.com/u/xH31Y9By

Still listening to it.
I popped in for a bit and I don't want to be too critical, but I got the real impression she was dragging out her emotions for effect. She is clearly hurt by the whole situation, but chunks feel like she's trying to over emote. But, considering she's been screwed over by a lot of people in the vtuber space, a supposed friend knifing you in the back is rough.

Also, she got stuck in a car with Numi driving for hours. She thought they had a bond.

For context.
 

Clem the Gem

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Has everyone stopped talking about the Sinder shitshow for a minute? Well a dumb thought came into my head so I shat out this:

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Phantasm

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Todd's Strongest Howard

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Feel free to suggest a more interesting name for the thread and I will change it. I will also pin this thread to the notice on the site header.

The Thurible, because it's a whole lot of stinky smoke, no fire and leaves only 'sinders' behind.
 

Phantasm

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Feel free to suggest a more interesting name for the thread and I will change it. I will also pin this thread to the notice on the site header.
ThotWars : Episode (?) - The Whores Strike back
 

UberSoldat

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ThotWars : Episode (?) - The Whores Strike back
I wouldn't call it a war, given the lack of impact of Sinder's doc. This is more of a firing squad execution.
 

Phantasm

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I wouldn't call it a war, given the lack of impact of Sinder's doc. This is more of a firing squad execution.
Wait until the consequences actually start hitting her right now she thinks she can salvage something of her career but when it becomes clear that she can't that's when things are going to get interesting
 

CalciumAnimal

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I WAS RIGHT SHE KINDA COPIED SILVERVALE'S MODEL AND TRIED TO STEAL HER SPOT IN THE VTUBER SPHERE!!

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actually if we look at the timeline she may have been copying some Vtuber named Spite.
tell me if im late

So this is interesting just because it gives insight into why they left Vsho (and Veibei made a statement earlier too) TLDR apparently the three are at least close enough for them to feel the need to say something.
 

Phantasm

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So this is interesting just because it gives insight into why they left Vsho (and Veibei made a statement earlier too) TLDR apparently the three are at least close enough for them to feel the need to say something.
This actually makes me curious if any of the girls (and Zentreya) that were together with her in Vshojo are going to say anything they have all that talent freedom right might as well make some use it
 
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Negronald Trump

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Wait until the consequences actually start hitting her right now she thinks she can salvage something of her career but when it becomes clear that she can't that's when things are going to get interesting.
Let me just say, the more her fans are sharing images of her merch being burned or destroyed clearly sends a message to her sponsors that she is a brand risk. There's a chance she might get bought out of Gamersupps and lose her cards in VCard as Shylily is the owner of that brand. If she's THAT vindictive when Silver didn't let her ride her coat-tails then you can be sure she's going to get back at the whores any way she can especially if she's going to lose a lot of money because of them. Buckle up, there's a chance whore on whore violence is going to go down.
:amepopcorn::amepopcorn::amepopcorn:
 

Kuri Rinji

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  • Shylily was the one that initiated the talk, right after Bao's IUD removal, while she was recovering with a really bad induced period (hormonal turmoil).
  • After she saw the screenshots she drove to Tara's (who?) house where they had the phone call, crying, and decided she shouldn't be alone.
  • Mentions how she was feeling all emotions at the same time while trying to rationalize it and put herself in Sinder's place (consequence of the feeling of betrayal, been there).
  • Goes on hindsight where Sinder was warming up to everyone in her circle while getting colder to her, at the time rationalizing as her brainworms and blaming herself imagining she did something wrong when she was ignored, but culminates in being much worse than what she thought.
    • "I just kept asking myself: out of everyone in our friend group, why was it me? What did I do differently? And for so long, I was jealous of how warm they treated my friends and I wondered why it felt so different towards me.".
  • Bao friends waited her to come home from the hospital and recover a bit before they told her, sat on the information for almost a week. As soon as they told her, everyone brainstormed possible solutions and what to do next.
  • Repeats from time to time that their friendship was entangled with their real life (they probably hang together a lot by how she stresses this fact).
  • Starts elaborating on how important a debut is for a vtuber, how stressful project management and that's there's a big team behind it, then goes on how hard it is to pivot and reestructure the schedule after that kind of sudden break out. Was devastated after the cancellation, to the point of deleting the teaser tweet because she couldn't look at it anymore.
  • Didn't want to have another artist to draw over the design or mimic Nano's style. Messaged Nano at the time that even if it took years to make the sexy model she'd wait for her.
  • "I think there's so many ways to be competitive and not hurt other people in the process. Even when she was so much smaller than me and was just starting out I still remember, showing up, on her stream and making a little bit out of it. I think I speak for all my friends but, that we wouldn't be where we are if it weren't for each other. And I've always felt that way that every success that each of us has is everyone's success. It's so fucking cheesy to say it out loud, it sounds like the end of Mean Girls (2004) when they take the tiara and break it in little pieces and spread it around- I've always felt that way with my friends and we know how ruthless this sphere of streaming is, we know how vile it can get, how tough it is and how so many times when we're hurt when we see something awful and just wanna quit but we have to keep going, we have to... we have to just ignore but there's only so much one person can take.".
  • "And I know it's a super stupid and niche problem to have. I feel that if I explain the situation to a therapist they would just fucking explode. I guess it's such a privilege to be where we are and who we are that... I just don't know, like... and that's the most fucked up part about it is, like, the whole time I was like 'What did I do? What did I do?'."
  • Questions why was she even considered a threat as she considered Sinder a bigger success, that there was no need to kick the ladder down.
  • Asks why was she called a thief when she spent five hours with her editor convincing she would never stop being friends with both Sinder and him even if he took the exclusivity deal (this was in the editor doc).
  • Points how she didn't even add personal anecdotes on her Google Doc, just what was on the screenshots and hard evidence because she knows how evil and fucked up this shit can get.
  • "And the whole time you do not know how many times I was told to put in my Google Doc the fact that you had a significant other, and no matter how many people told me to put in and how stupid I would be to not put it in, I could not bring myself to put it in, because I knew what it would do to your reputation and you could not spare the same thought for me. And it would be so easy for me to prove, that you have sent the messages but I couldn't do it. Because in the end, I still wouldn't do that to you, and I wonder why you would do that to me."
  • When her model was cancelled, Bao was recovering from surgery, bedridden, and all her friends knew because she's open about it. Asks how could she been scheming to take Sinder's career in that state.
  • Looked for any semblance of acknowledgement for their friendship in Sinder's apology, to no avail, still searching for it.
  • Could easily turn this into vengeance but focused on the evidence of sabotage, considering how outfits and debuts are tied to holidays and dates that aren't easily available, implying she targetted them.
  • Nihmune forgave Sinder for missing her concert that was being planned by both of them for over a year, devastating Numi.
  • Mention no matter how depressed and stuck in bed she was last year, she managed to fly 6 hours to NY to be there with her.
  • "Every single pivotal moment where you had the chance to make the good choice, to be a good person and a good friend, you chose not to be. And no matter how many times me and our friends tried to wrap our heads around it and tried to make sense about it we can't, because every single time we came to the realization it wasn't what we would do if we cared."
  • Goes on how small they all started and how far they got, from 100 to 3k viewers, but Sinder let jealousy take ahold of her. "It's not feeling of jealousy but how you act upon it."
  • Disassociates and calms down, it's mostly silent here, takes her Advil and goes to bed.
I thought this would be entertaining but it's rather grim. It's woman's psychology that doesn't address the mistakes of their way (lewdtubing, cloutchasing, etc) but I give Bao the benefit of the doubt because she did start with music. It's how they say, hate the game, not the player.

Anyway, Sinder's not only a whore but a cunt as well. I'd never expect Bao holding back after others pushed her to throw Sinder to the dogs, even with solid proof, she decided to hold back. She's a real one, and perhaps because of that fact that she's betrayed so often (don't forget Bao is one of the most scammed vtubers out there, she's treated like a beaten babushka).

I edited my archive post with a summary if you guys want to take a look.

Feel free to suggest a more interesting name for the thread and I will change it. I will also pin this thread to the notice on the site header.
The Stoning of Sinder Iscariotes.
 
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Tamokii

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I've moved 500+ posts to this thread. Thankfully, the threadmarks are still intact. Feel free to report posts moved in error or ones that I missed. I only briefly scanned over each post before marking it to be moved. I haven't read any of the docs (and frankly don't care to) so it was as good as I could do for now. This GOOGLE DOCKEY image was funny, though:

Feel free to suggest a more interesting name for the thread and I will change it. I will also pin this thread to the notice on the site header.
East Sinder Trade Company

It's just business after all:gloomiLaugh:
 

Phantasm

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Let me just say, the more her fans are sharing images of her merch being burned or destroyed clearly sends a message to her sponsors that she is a brand risk. There's a chance she might get bought out of Gamersupps and lose her cards in VCard as Shylily is the owner of that brand. If she's THAT vindictive when Silver didn't let her ride her coat-tails then you can be sure she's going to get back at the whores any way she can especially if she's going to lose a lot of money because of them. Buckle up, there's a chance whore on whore violence is going to go down.

This is why I think she's going to go nuclear we all now know how vindictive and petty she was when she THOUGHT someone was a threat to her money
The vultures are out.



There's no way in hell that's a woman right only terminal porn brain coomers think that shaking tits for a few seconds without saying anything will actually attract viewers


Nevermind it's working fuck sometimes these people make me ashamed to be a man but than I look at women and realize I got lucky
 
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smartestkidontheshortbus

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At least Judas had the courage to take himself out.
Edit: If Sinder had just fucked over Silvervale and Spite she would have been ok. Her mistake was deliberately fucking over someone in her friend group.
 
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TheOathbreakerTarvos

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This is why I think she's going to go nuclear we all now know how vindictive and petty she was when she THOUGHT someone was a threat to her money


There's no way in hell that's a woman right only terminal porn brain coomers think that shaking tits for a few seconds without saying anything will actually attract viewers


Nevermind it's working fuck sometimes these people make me ashamed to be a man but than I look at women and realize I got lucky
She deleted her tweet. Here is an image. Don't forget.

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NTRAntagonist

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Isn't it sleazy to step your foot in the door during drama like this? Then again in a sea of vtweeters and 1 view indies this might be a good strat
 

Xuhle

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  • Nihmune forgave Sinder for missing her concert that was being planned by both of them for over a year, devastating Numi.
You know I wonder if this is the promise Lily mention that Sinder bailed on for a collab over fucking vcard.
 
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