Sinder Containment Thread

[Paladin]

Mila and Kei comment on Sinder


Eri memes instead

That was 2 fucking years ago?

 

[NeneLOVE]

"Sinder? Nano? Bao? Who cares about them, they're irrelevant. Obviously this situation should be about me... the queen of pity-baiting!" - Elia, probably.

Gotta love when any kind of drama happens and some totally unrelated person goes "oh my gawsh I AM SO SAD AND DEPRESSEEEED!!!!" like who the fuck gives a shit about you bitch?

 

[Hff201]

>Insert "Yadda yadda, women are better when somebody tells them not to be menhera, yadda yadda"

We joke about this stuff, but unironically, very few women are fit to manage their own personal brand like this. Women are naturally more emotionally-driven than men and have been since the dawn of time, which is what makes having a good mother one of the most important parts of a child's upbringing, and is why women fit naturally into nursing and care-oriented occupations. But it's also a huge weakness in competitive environments, where you need to be confident in what you're doing rather than coming to a standstill every time you get upset or angry.

Just look at how much of this callout boils down to "I thought we were fwends" rather than "this bitch is trying to sabotage my business". It'll get people on their side in the short-term, but they won't learn any lessons about it long-term and will probably get taken advantage of again by the next sweet-talker who pretends to be nice.

 

[God's Saddest Tattletail]

I mean look at this tweet, it's another fake as fuck lovebombing statement to scoop up some clout crumbs from the fallout. They all sound like carbon copies of each other that it all blurs together.

Yep. Unfortunately some of the ex-EIEN girls that I follow are in the replies (and I'm sure as Elia's RL friend Ekko will be eventually as well). It's a shame that people still engage with shit like this... these kinds of Tweets are so hollow and performative, just a desperate attempt to twist any ongoing drama into something they can use to gain sympathy points and validation.

 

[bothyourhouses]

Doesn't this seem too coordinated to a random doc drop

Seems like a ploy to cull competition to me(not that there's any they are all whores)

Bao isn't an idiot, even if she plays one on Twitch. I'm sure this was a planned, deliberate effort to burn Sinder's brand as hard as possible. But frankly I don't have a problem with that under the circumstances.

Eastern European or not, a twitch whore is still a twitch whore. There's no love here.

As a whore enjoyer, Squ gets stale pretty quick. She only has one joke (it's sex), and she flirts endlessly but then cuts off immediately if anyone is receptive, and not in a funny way. She's the vtuber equivalent of a swimsuit pageant.

 

[RestlessRain]

Remember guys, take the indie pill! Indies are the future!

Sinder's obviously a bitch but I don't particularly trust anyone involved in this shit, this is clearly a carefully coordinated takedown, and almost everyone who gets involved in those enjoys the extra attention and support they get from it, and start trying to chase that high with other targets. They'll probably all be fighting each other before the year's out.

This is exactly why I find the mainstream Twitch side of vtubing so fucking miserable, since it's literally just the same e-celeb bullshit you see everywhere else but with big titty anime characters plastered over it. Obviously the corpos have their own problems and annoying retardation can still slip through the cracks (see Clara's instagram), but at the very least the "instigate gay drama on main and you're fired" sword over their head forces most of them to hide their power level; indies have no such pressure.

This is gonna be all of these people's content for the next week, every one of them is gonna go on stream and respond to the drama, then their orbiters will chime in on their own streams and keep the topic alive even longer - it's like a brand-safe version of Internet Bloodsports, which is the most unappealing kind of content I could think of.

Just remember, all these women released googledocs in hours in response, some of them over a hundred pages. Let's say you're really motivated and want to write a hundred-page essay, do you think you could write it in less than half a day? No, these bitches had these essays written in advance and ready to drop before this shit started.

 

[NeneLOVE]

do you think you could write it in less than half a day?

ME ME ME! I love writing and starting arguments!

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

I just checked and Nanoless made three Ironmouse models.

Race Princess — ironmouse Model Index

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Cotton Candy Outfit — ironmouse Model Index

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Decora — ironmouse Model Index

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I wonder if they ever thought of telling Nano to not work with fucking Ironmouse anymore. Would Sinder be that full of herself? (rhetorical question)

I'm not surprised there's an entire fan website dedicated to just keeping track of the Ironmouse models. She's spent so damn much money on them, lol. Nice website though, really well done.

We joke about this stuff, but unironically, very few women are fit to manage their own personal brand like this. Women are naturally more emotionally-driven than men and have been since the dawn of time, which is what makes having a good mother one of the most important parts of a child's upbringing, and is why women fit naturally into nursing and care-oriented occupations. But it's also a huge weakness in competitive environments, where you need to be confident in what you're doing rather than coming to a standstill every time you get upset or angry.

Just look at how much of this callout boils down to "I thought we were fwends" rather than "this bitch is trying to sabotage my business". It'll get people on their side in the short-term, but they won't learn any lessons about it long-term and will probably get taken advantage of again by the next sweet-talker who pretends to be nice.

Women can't build or maintain hierarchies. That's what causes so many issues among them. Unironically, the daughter of a power Man can be the best maintainer of the status quo, which is how you get most of histories notably strong Women in leadership positions. (It's functionally a different skillset, as every conqueror in history has normally found out as it kills them.)

It also spawns out to the "Crab Bucket Mentality" of zero-sum thinking. Women naturally don't have the purview that Men can get to, so you can't expect them to have it. One of those important bits of information they suppress these days.

New Mochi Cover:

She explained in a recent stream how she got Oliver Evans of Nijisanji to check her Japanese pronunciation for this one and how he questioned her choice of a song with lyrics that describe the thoughts of the horniest woman on earth after meeting a random man in a pub. Alas, she didn't know that the lyrics are essentially the plot to a mid-budget JAV movie and she just liked how the song sounds. She included translated lyrics in the YouTube subtitles.

Edit: This is also the first Mika cover she redid to my knowledge. The Mika video has some striking similarities in composition and style, so it's pretty much a 1:1 remake.

This is just funny all the way around.

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On the Sinder stuff, I don't really care that much. The primary way I'd interacted with her content was clips, mostly about her saying something off the wall then her chat paying to use the audio emotes to torment her. She's one of the streamers the chat is probably better than the creator. Though I do find the confirmation that Red is her boyfriend a little funny. It was pretty obvious they had to be in a physical relationship because no manager/mod could get away with how much he would torment her via chat if he wasn't using it as a way to "neg" her and keep her ego in check.

That said, if there's more to the behind the scenes drama, it could get hilariously litigious, especially as almost the entire circus of them are around LA.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Just remember, all these women released googledocs in hours in response, some of them over a hundred pages. Let's say you're really motivated and want to write a hundred-page essay, do you think you could write it in less than half a day? No, these bitches had these essays written in advance and ready to drop before this shit started.

Every google doc we inch closer to Whore-con 5 and complete Twitch vtubing MAD
Youtube and Corpo chads stay winning

 

[Last Of The Mohicans]

So, I don't think this will affect Gamersupps at all, really. There's enough diverse investment happening in that company that I don't even think Sinder will be asked to sell shares.

HOWEVER, I'm FASCINATED to see if there's any ramifications when it comes to that fucking TCG, given that it looks like Shylily is the sole-owner of that shit.

 

[IdenticalPlateaus]

Because people see who she's made models for and presume "If I can get a Nano model I can be just as successful!"

Same as any other artist of repute with a successful 'child'.

Yeah seems like a classic toolbox fallacy to me.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

So, I don't think this will affect Gamersupps at all, really. There's enough diverse investment happening in that company that I don't even think Sinder will be asked to sell shares.

HOWEVER, I'm FASCINATED to see if there's any ramifications when it comes to that fucking TCG, given that it looks like Shylily is the sole-owner of that shit.

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Shy Lilly herself has 5, Bao too

 

[httn]

"Sinder? Nano? Bao? Who cares about them, they're irrelevant. Obviously this situation should be about me... the queen of pity-baiting!" - Elia, probably.

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"Elia we really need you to start pulling your weight. You keep sleeping through group collab streams, you dropped the work for your second outfit onto another member to do and you agreed to no male collabs when we started the group so cut it out"
Elia:

 

[The Proctor]

It's never been more over.

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THERMONUCLEAR levels of career over.

 

[Egg the Boiled]

My life is worse after hearing that.

 

[dkn2038]

It's never been more over.

My rrat isn't so rratty anymore...

 

[NeneLOVE]

It's never been more over.

"Sir the terrorists have run out of important buildings to strike so now they're just doing donuts with the planes mid-air"

 

[thhrang]

It's never been more over.

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[ogey_rrat]

Considering how venomous and treacherous a lot of these big indie vtwitchers have been behind the scenes over the years I wonder what it will take for twitch simps to finally realize that their oshi isn't a special exception and engages in that same shit. I mean look at this tweet, it's another fake as fuck lovebombing statement to scoop up some clout crumbs from the fallout. They all sound like carbon copies of each other that it all blurs together. My take is, if your oshi has no clue/no opinion on wtf this drama is, she's one of the good ones.

The funny thing is I'm sure someone made an effortpost or two in the previous general thread about how, to put it mildly, Elia's not a very nice person herself. Mozu & co. could probably drop coordinated Google docs on her if they wanted to, so I guess this is perhaps her way of pre-empting this potentially happening by pity baiting (again). They're not named in the tweet but the phrase "back stabbed over and over by people who I thought were my close friends" makes it pretty obvious who she's referring to.

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Here are the effortposts:

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Just to clarify: We're talking about this Mozzu, right? C'mon man, we loop on this at least twice a month. Whores people don't watch are bad, whores people like for whatever reason aren't whores. Get with the times, old man.

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My spider mama oshi's influence is spreading I wonder if she'll have any success with this, though:

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[Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡]

It's never been more over.

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THERMONUCLEAR levels of career over.

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