Sinder Containment Thread

[Paladin]

I find the level of spitefulness and projection shown in this document to be astounding. Sinder has literally zero right to shit talk anyone’s music. The shit she produced was so bad that it broke contaminated and became a meme to shit on it.

 

[Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡]

wow that is doing lemon woman more dirty then all of the cyberlife shit. Also Sinder seems to be actually what we meme about Lumi.

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Terminating my work with Sinder.

introduction & notes I wanted to share my experience with Sinder and Red manipulating me, using me, and dragging me into drama, while sabotaging, slandering & spreading lies about people I thought were her closest friends. Not only do I no longer wish to work with Sinder, but I want to share w...

docs.google.com

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

I don't really care enough about these women to actually read the docs they've posted, I assume it's all dumb whore shit tl;dr?

Actual claims here, basically trying to strong arm their model artist into an exclusivity deal without actual contract law to back it, just gaslighting along the lines of "If you work for more people, your art will be worth less". Trying to justify it by saying it's totally just business to sabotage and undermine others in the space even if they're supposed to be friends publicly, and pressuring the artist to the degree of "If you get an art commission from [redacted third party], tell them no, then tell us you got a commission you turned down so we can commission you instead so you still get money!"

Actually exceedingly scum, but what can you expect from a talentless whore whose entire business is being a whore? It's some real public image killing shit here.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sinder ended up crucif-

 

[shipmate]

Bao's tweet: archive
Nano's tweet: archive
Bao's doc: archive
Nano's doc: archive

I was doing this work myself but you did it quicker, you're one of the realest niggas around.

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It's all coming down like a snowball, and big snowballs like Camila

[a]

Video editor SacramoreTV did his part as well


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Google Doc [archive]

My honest reaction:


I think she's gonna become the Momokun Vtuber. Whoring herself for some change, never again reaching the sunlight because people will keep punching her down. I wonder if her (alleged) boyfriend will leave now that her revenue will free fall more than Niji stocks.

 

[Hff201]

just gaslighting along the lines of "If you work for more people, your art will be worth less".

This part is true though, the subconscious perception of value is a consideration some businesses take into account; the less of something there is, the higher you can ask for it.

It's just that it's up to the business owner to decide if that's the model they want to pursue; not a random client who isn't willing to both cough up enough to make that viable and write up a formal proposal rather than weaselwording on Discord.

 

[MerelyTourist]

pressuring the artist to the degree of "If you get an art commission from [redacted third party], tell them no, then tell us you got a commission you turned down so we can commission you instead so you still get money!"

I would argue this deal can be represented as an illegal employment.

 

[RestlessRain]

Finally, someone that I actually give a shit about comments on the Bao/Nanoless drama:

 

[Lurker McSpic]

Finally, someone that I actually give a shit about comments on the Bao/Nanoless drama:

My estimation of jelly hoshiumi as a man just fucking plummeted

 

[Last Of The Mohicans]

I was gonna go to bed fuck me.

 

[kingcaid]

My estimation of jelly hoshiumi as a man just fucking plummeted

I too am disappointed she didnt call Sinder a awawawawawaful whore.

 

[NeneLOVE]

So whores are mad at other whores so drama?
I am correct?

Why is it always "google doc filled with discord screenshots" man?

 

[Tubedude]

Personally hoping Sinder responds with evidence of similar bullshit from everyone else in their clique. Would love to see that group explode into a slapfest of bullshit drama.

 

[shipmate]

Finally, someone that I actually give a shit about comments on the Bao/Nanoless drama:

archive

Personally hoping Sinder responds with evidence of similar bullshit from everyone else in their clique. Would love to see that group explode into a slapfest of bullshit drama.

I don't think it will happen. This was premeditated so I'm pretty sure they scrapped whatever they could before pulling the trigger. Unless her manager or herself (unlikely) knew how to run scripts to log all discord DMs and record all voice calls. It's things that we would do, not them.
She will wake up to an all time low trust, anything she says will be taken as a lie unless proven otherwise.

E:

Spoiler: screenshot

There is no way there's no higher beings above us, life is a stretched out comedy with sadist scriptwriters behind it.

 

[Last Of The Mohicans]

I refuse to believe there's not at least ONE of those chicks running in those circles sweating their tits off right now because they've been doing VERY similar shit.

Careful eye on who is lovebomb replying to Bao's tweet.

 

[The Proctor]

Rarely have I been so happy with the consequences of a sleeping binge.

Actual claims here, basically trying to strong arm their model artist into an exclusivity deal without actual contract law to back it, just gaslighting along the lines of "If you work for more people, your art will be worth less". Trying to justify it by saying it's totally just business to sabotage and undermine others in the space even if they're supposed to be friends publicly, and pressuring the artist to the degree of "If you get an art commission from [redacted third party], tell them no, then tell us you got a commission you turned down so we can commission you instead so you still get money!"

I've been told on several occasions that small indies will catfight over model artists before. I once talked directly with a model artist who commented that one of their clients seemed to be deliberately delaying and drawing out a commission just so her rival, who was next in the queue, would have to wait longer for her own work. I'm '''glad''' that a massive case of this exact behavior has finally broken onto the scene so I can cite it whenever I need to convince a clueless person that vtubing isn't the big, happy family and promised land of supportive feminine peer groups they've always dreamed of.

 

[thhrang]

Why did this shit drop at retard-o-clock?

 

[NeneLOVE]

Why did this shit drop at retard-o-clock?

Probably to ensure Sinder would be asleep and unable to damage control for at least a few hours.
I can see these women doing that on purpose.

I've been told on several occasions that small indies will catfight over model artists before. I once talked directly with a model artist who commented that one of their clients seemed to be deliberately delaying and drawing out a commission just so her rival, who was next in the queue, would have to wait longer for her own work. I'm '''glad''' that a massive case of this exact behavior has finally broken onto the scene so I can cite it whenever I need to convince a clueless person that vtubing isn't a big, happy family and promised land of supportive feminine peer groups they've always dreamed of.

Indies are the future old man.

 

[thhrang]

Replies are piling in on Sinder's last tweet.

 

[God's Saddest Tattletail]

I have to assume this is referring to the Sinder drama based on the replies:


Also can someone who gives a shit about Twitch chuubas spoonfeed me on who "Vtuber 1" might be?

 

[Lurker McSpic]

Why did this shit drop at retard-o-clock?

for maximum damage. You chose a time in which the subject is very likely asleep and once they wake up the strike already did it's rounds long enough they can't put out the fire fast. The fact so many people are taking their side blindly without going "why the fuck are you 4 cunts coming out with docs at the same time?" isn't surprising but it's a good case on why we should repel the 19th