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A Career Burnt to Sinders

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Sinder looks like a cheap hooker while Bao looks like a random 6/10
but that would explain alot of things on the Bao autism of hers

I was trying to find some of her older competitive cosplay photos, but I forget the name they were under.

The weird thing about the attention economy in the Cosplay space is that it's exactly what we've seen play out with the behind the scenes drama. No one wanted to show up to the same convention with the same outfits, because then they'd all get compared and that really does a number to the female psyche. But that scene is absolutely all about that much backstabbing.

Most Vtubers favor Vtubing because they don't have pretty faces. Bao's in solid shape and a 6/7 in the face range. (Poor Numi's problem is she's a 4 and has spent too much time around far prettier girls that she's so far in her own head about it.) Sinder has big tits and a massive desire for attention, but not really the face to go with it. Like most of them, they'd need to get model-thin to really remove a lot of the issues with their faces. Thus the face masks most of the time.

Oh, Bao also clearly spikes pretty high on the Crazy Chart, but not high enough that you think you're getting a knife in the back after a one night stand. Everyone knows Bao isn't faking the unhinged aspects, so she has a certain level of sexual appeal than the rest of their space. I doubt Sinder understood that at the conscious level, but she'd be reacting to that if she felt threatened by Bao.

This is more of a Proctor point, but the Male purview is normally against Nature, because it's always trying to kill you. The Female purview doesn't see that, so it's always against their standing relative to other Women. Female Intra-sexual Competition never ends for most of them.
 

Superduper Samurai

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everything we know just makes sinder sound like a retard. like if her goal was to use people to get to the top why on earth would she bother fucking over her friends who are more popular than her who she could just leech off of forever? all this sabotage and trying to get nano to only do art for sinder means nothing if fans still enjoy the others more. this is like is vshojo only released froot merch and nothing else.

that means nothing if froots not the most popular member. so pretty much sinders just a super jealous greedy person who hates that her friends are better than her at everything so instead of trying to improve herself she chooses to sabotage them as if thats going to make people like her more. its really brain dead logic but hey what are vtubers if not brain damaged women.

that being said i have seen some people on twitter question why nano said anything in the first place and it made me think. this is pure speculation but what if nano was secretly afraid sinder was going to turn on her for rejecting the proposal to be her exclusive artist. if the goal was to prevent others from having nanos art and nano refuses to work just for you then one may assume the next step may be to try and frame nano as a bad person and ruin her reputation in some way. sinder was hoping nano would keep what was said private for this reason. nano going to the others was a smart choice because it would prevent this.
I mean the easy answer is women
But you can take a look at her peers and see that Sinder always seemed to be the least actually talented one, Bao and Numi had music chops, Bao was also well liked by many in spite of her initial women moment, Numi also had alot of eyes on her because she used to post her Abs and attended an early event in cosplay, and Bao's ass was already posted above. An incredibly insecure women will go above and beyond to make sure she was queen bitch, and if she couldnt do it in looks or talent, then she might as well try doing it business-wise
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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>Examples speak english, one is literally a white bitch from canuckland
good try westoid
Do you think the Corpos would deny Kson and Hana after all the "favors" they would pull. I hear that they speak that Japan language oh so well

:smugina:
 

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everything we know just makes sinder sound like a retard. like if her goal was to use people to get to the top why on earth would she bother fucking over her friends who are more popular than her who she could just leech off of forever? all this sabotage and trying to get nano to only do art for sinder means nothing if fans still enjoy the others more. this is like is vshojo only released froot merch and nothing else.

that means nothing if froots not the most popular member. so pretty much sinders just a super jealous greedy person who hates that her friends are better than her at everything so instead of trying to improve herself she chooses to sabotage them as if thats going to make people like her more. its really brain dead logic but hey what are vtubers if not brain damaged women.

that being said i have seen some people on twitter question why nano said anything in the first place and it made me think. this is pure speculation but what if nano was secretly afraid sinder was going to turn on her for rejecting the proposal to be her exclusive artist. if the goal was to prevent others from having nanos art and nano refuses to work just for you then one may assume the next step may be to try and frame nano as a bad person and ruin her reputation in some way. sinder was hoping nano would keep what was said private for this reason. nano going to the others was a smart choice because it would prevent this.
Nano basically got hit with Mafia tactics and took the deal. However, it started out as a good business move, but, like with all control tactics, eventually the "juice isn't worth the squeeze". Nano's reputation took a hit every time, and eventually it probably became too risky. Reputations have value and Nano turned "State's Evidence".

You can also look at it from a Factional Power Dynamic view of a smaller power turning on a benefactor power when they were over-extended, switching sides at the right time to collapse the previously dominant party.
 

46gumi

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Some people think it isn't enough that they're doing good. Others have to be suffering too.:marinesmug:
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God's Strongest Dragoon

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Going to do a mass reply, but @God's Strongest Dragoon remembered the fleshstreams.

I think the timelines matter a lot. Sinder had gotten close enough to Numi's Vtuber friend group that they went on a Ski trip in Feb 2024. Sinder was in a car with Bao & Numi for probably 6+ hours. Not long after that, Sinder had the "vtuber physics are real" moment at a convention.



This is peak catnip to her and it started the increase in her incline in most stats. There was another big event in August 2024 which I forget which, but it's noticeable on the charts.

But, then the Bao Cake stream happened.
>be white woman approaching the wall/hit the wall
>does cosplay to soothe and feed her ego by showing off her body
>gets some attention through people joking that vtuber physics are real
>younger and more attractive Asian woman does flesh stream
>she gets a lot more attention than you did with everyone fixating on her ass
>people start tuning into more of her flesh streams just so they can get her to turn around
>she likely mentions she's going to do fansly streams among you and her friends
>you can't just milk your model's physics and your cosplay anymore because the younger and more attractive Asian woman is jumping ahead in the arms race
>now feel compelled to make the jump to fansly to compete with the younger and more attractive Asian woman and blame her for it

No one should be surprised by what actions a narcissistic woman takes in this situation
Who is Tectone? Why did he make a response?
Tectone is one of the notable streamers in the Twitch sphere and has apparently gotten to know Sinder, so he's reacting to it. I didn't watch his react video but I saw a clip of him yesterday saying he's going to go over the docs as a neutral party.
 
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Helkar

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I always thought Sinder was around the same age as a large part of this clique, aka roughly mid-20s currently, was i wrong and she's actually older?
 

AO Cody

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The only thing I can say is: EN VTUBING WAS A MISTAKE
The real mistake was letting Twitch get involved in VTubing. Dragged everything down to the same cesspit of whores and sociopaths that inundates that platform to begin with.

What I'm saying is the real mistake was Twitch.
 

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Why are we talking about irl looks in relation to vtubers? When did that become a thing that matters to people which are supposed to use a mask to hide their real selves.
 

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Feel free to suggest a more interesting name for the thread and I will change it. I will also pin this thread to the notice on the site header.
From Tinder to Sinder: Lamentations of a Twitch Thot with Crotch Rot
 

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The real mistake was letting Twitch get involved in VTubing. Dragged everything down to the same cesspit of whores and sociopaths that inundates that platform to begin with.

What I'm saying is the real mistake was Twitch.
VTubing should have been gatekept harder when it made its way to the west. "Oh, you stream on Twitch? Guess you're not a Virtual YouTuber then... so since you're definitively NOT a VTuber I wonder what we should call you instead..."
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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Why are we talking about irl looks in relation to vtubers? When did that become a thing that matters to people which are supposed to use a mask to hide their real selves.
When they are whores they cease to be vtubers. Whorage overwrites all those tenants

VTubing should have been gatekept harder when it made its way to the west. "Oh, you stream on Twitch? Guess you're not a Virtual YouTuber then... so since you're definitively NOT a VTuber I wonder what we should call you instead..."
Call them Virtual Whores. Wait that doesn't work because they are also whores in real life....
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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I always thought Sinder was around the same age as a large part of this clique, aka roughly mid-20s currently, was i wrong and she's actually older?
I'm pretty sure she's closer to 30 than most of the clique.
 

ZerroDefex

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>younger and more attractive Asian woman does flesh stream
Maybe it's a matter of taste but I feel like I'm missing something as from that one fleshclip posted Bao looks mid AF (and chubby by Asian standards.)
 

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Why are we talking about irl looks in relation to vtubers? When did that become a thing that matters to people which are supposed to use a mask to hide their real selves.
They themselves decided to place them at some forefront and use it as part of their brand, so its fair game to talk about and criticize
 

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Maybe it's a matter of taste but I feel like I'm missing something as from that one fleshclip posted Bao looks mid AF (and chubby by Asian standards.)

Bao grew up in the States, so she's got that C6 lipid stauncher physical profile. She's spent a lot of time doing leg work since she doesn't have much of a chest to speak about. She isn't anything to write home about, but she's decidedly fine. However, it was more about the gap between her original presentation and the more current one. But, for Sinder, what mattered was the attention she got. It didn't really matter about the looks.
 

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Some people think it isn't enough that they're doing good. Others have to be suffering too.:marinesmug:

Sinder performing a cut-rate There Will Be Blood, I see.

ttaxgg.png
 

Xuhle

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Another few Dramatubers have hit the dogpile

Im pretty sure that Lidia was hungry with how much she was makign fast food comparisons.


then we have the resident chinese woman banmin
 

NTRAntagonist

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Maybe it's a matter of taste but I feel like I'm missing something as from that one fleshclip posted Bao looks mid AF (and chubby by Asian standards.)
yeah I don't get it either but her fans go gaga over her bod
 

AO Cody

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Another few Dramatubers have hit the dogpile

Im pretty sure that Lidia was hungry with how much she was makign fast food comparisons.


then we have the resident chinese woman banmin

I feel like any time I see a YouTube video with "the [name] situation" in its title I wish nothing but the worst for the YouTuber in question.
 
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