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Merry Shiorin
Early Adopter
Joined:  Oct 10, 2022
I don't think she's terribly pleasant to be around, giving her bitching about donos, but in fairness, being fucked over like she was, while also being this young and impressionable and likely expecting the world because young people are retarded and le influencer career is today what being an actress was thirty years ago is bound to fuck with your head.

That's why you should watch hags and not chicks in their late teens or early twenties, btw.

That people she believed to be her friends keep lodging knifes in her back doesn't help, either.

What she needs is an offline job and five years of quiet. Then she can look back, realise how retarded she was, and has a wealth of experience to try something online again.
 

Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡

You're the remedy.
Joined:  Mar 20, 2023

Koronesuki

X-Potato
Joined:  Oct 1, 2023
Many people her age go into college thinking one way and come out thinking drastically differently.
Yes, because they're indoctrinated with Marxist propaganda the entire time they're there.
 

RiverBear

Well-known member
Joined:  Sep 29, 2022
What if this was just Twisty's plan all along to go through the Nijisanji graduation queue faster?
We have known for a while now that she has wanted out, and this controversy is her way to jump the queue
 

Zinnaha

Niji and Indie Simp
Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
I will say though; the fact that Niji told her (and presumably other talents) to delete all of their past social media (including their PERSONAL ONES), and to quit any other jobs (not just other Vtuber gigs, all other jobs, even IRL ones) to commit to the company, but then she got no support, and basically made no money for 8 months, only to have to basically lose he first paycheck to cover all her expenses she racked up working FOR THEM? That's beyond black company behavior. That should be criminal. And then they had the nerve to string her along over a sex pest and sit on their hands and basically do nothing while that little twerp could act with impunity. If that company went belly up tomorrow, the whole Vtubing community would be better off.
That's a big part I'm just not feeling the stuff she puts out, because everyone delete pasts stuff on their own whim so there's no actual rule or demand to delete things, because every other talent still has a personal twitter (and past channel if they wanted) and another liver created a new personal one recently that's VERY obvious who it is because she posts pics with Finana, who also makes it obvious it's her.
I don't think she's terribly pleasant to be around, giving her bitching about donos, but in fairness, being fucked over like she was, while also being this young and impressionable and likely expecting the world because young people are retarded and le influencer career is today what being an actress was thirty years ago is bound to fuck with your head.

That's why you should watch hags and not chicks in their late teens or early twenties, btw.

That people she believed to be her friends keep lodging knifes in her back doesn't help, either.

What she needs is an offline job and five years of quiet. Then she can look back, realise how retarded she was, and has a wealth of experience to try something online again.
You have quite the faith a woman will learn a lesson.
 

somerandomnobody

Member
Joined:  Aug 5, 2024
I constantly look for "indefinite hiatus" vtubers and Hobobarbie went on hiatus last year and I presumed she was joining V4M 4th gen at the time, but it turned out to globie. Her twitter was full of flags. Sadly she's privated her account now. I had posted about her on /vt/ so it's possible Twisty saw my post.
 

Koronesuki

X-Potato
Joined:  Oct 1, 2023
What if this was just Twisty's plan all along to go through the Nijisanji graduation queue faster?
We have known for a while now that she has wanted out, and this controversy is her way to jump the queue
That's giving her an awful lot of credit to assume she's clever enough to come up with that plan. Have you considered the alternative possibility that she might just be stupid?
 

JusticeDog

Well-known member
Joined:  Jul 3, 2024
Mint just dropped some lore in her member stream. She was thinking about moving to Japan before she joined niji. Before she joined niji, she asked them if them could help her moving there. They told her that they could help her with that but after Mint joined niji, they told her that they can't help with moving to Japan.
Posting this here. They couldn't even hire their EN first wave without lying :shiinasadbee:
That's a big part I'm just not feeling the stuff she puts out, because everyone delete pasts stuff on their own whim so there's no actual rule or demand to delete things, because every other talent still has a personal twitter (and past channel if they wanted) and another liver created a new personal one recently that's VERY obvious who it is because she posts pics with Finana, who also makes it obvious it's her.

You have quite the faith a woman will learn a lesson.
Considering they were promising her $10k for her first month or something like that, it may have been less of a "requirement" and more of a "strong suggestion" because of how much money she was totally going to earn from being in Nijisanji. She was going to be rich, why should she need a PL and a real job? :rikutazumi:
 

Smelliest007

Emoom? Would.
Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
Sister, you're not very bright are you?
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From a glance, that's Aster, Uki, Elira, and First Stage's Nayuta Umbrage.
The Clique rrat will never be denied.
 
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Superduper Samurai

Well-known member
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
I will say though; the fact that Niji told her (and presumably other talents) to delete all of their past social media (including their PERSONAL ONES), and to quit any other jobs (not just other Vtuber gigs, all other jobs, even IRL ones)
this would be a strange thing considering Pomu still had an OL job for a brief time of her Niji career, granted, she was first gen, but isnt Ver also a paralegal? Plenty of Niji people have their personal social media too
Sister, you're not very bright are you?
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From a glance, that's Aster, Uki, Elira, and First Stage's Nayuta Umbrage.
The Clique rrat will never be denied.

Thank you random sister for bringing up that your ex-oshis still interact with someone under investigation for being a sexpest!
 

VSoyBoy

Well-known member
Joined:  Feb 16, 2024
Twitter post dump because I genuinely cannot be bothered to put this in an easily digestible format. Some of the tweets are too long to embed properly, I added screenshots for those:

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What a shitshow. I don't think that Heero guy is going about it very intelligently and tries to create several arguments out of nothing when not necessary to make a solid case.
Nowhere does he actually show that Zen and Aster were in a serious relationship, his DM with Zen is a whole lotta nothing and even the Zen tweet is about an RP relationship, which, cringe as it is, is not the same as what he was insinuating.
His response to the guy who claims to be a friend of Aster is genuinely baffling:
"He had someone underage in his RP group!" - "I don't think that's true." - "Well yeah, I said it was false!"
What? This dude is not making sense. Also, trying to guilt this guy by saying Zen once had a fiancé is doxing or for being friends with Aster is really weird.

The last three tweets are admittedly by Nijisanji fans, but interesting nonetheless when taken with a grain of salt. I don't even know what a "paid leave" would look like at Nijisanji, if it's just them continuing to be paid merch proceeds or something else.
 

Scoots

The Pontiff of PonWolf
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
this would be a strange thing considering Pomu still had an OL job for a brief time of her Niji career, granted, she was first gen, but isnt Ver also a paralegal? Plenty of Niji people have their personal social media too
I think that they probably highly recommended deleting everything and quitting the jobs to the point of it SEEMING mandatory and some livers just didn't bite like Pomu

Paid leave?
 

Superduper Samurai

Well-known member
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
The last three tweets are admittedly by Nijisanji fans, but interesting nonetheless when taken with a grain of salt. I don't even know what a "paid leave" would look like at Nijisanji, if it's just them continuing to be paid merch proceeds or something else.
My gut feeling tells me this is a wierd LARPer, none of his public accounts have anything besides being a fucking Merry fan
 

Phantasm

Well-known member
Joined:  Nov 28, 2022
My gut feeling tells me this is a wierd LARPer, none of his public accounts have anything besides being a fucking Merry fan
Asks people to not believe everything they've read without any proof doesn't give any proof for the bullshit he spouts. Alright man I'll take your advice and not believe anything you've said
 

VSoyBoy

Well-known member
Joined:  Feb 16, 2024
My gut feeling tells me this is a wierd LARPer, none of his public accounts have anything besides being a fucking Merry fan
It's not a sister in so far as that they acknowledge and follow a majority of former Nijis, but they're definitely still a prominent Nijifan.
I also have a hard time believing that they would have super special sekrit info, but Twisty's fans get told a lot of confidential stuff, so I guess it wouldn't be too unusual for some Aster fans to get similar perks.
Just something to keep an eye on without putting too much weight on it.
 

Faceless Waifu

Well-known member
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 9, 2022
this would be a strange thing considering Pomu still had an OL job for a brief time of her Niji career, granted, she was first gen, but isnt Ver also a paralegal? Plenty of Niji people have their personal social media too
I don't think the jobs themselves are the issue. AFAIK they don't really care much about the talent having jobs so long that they still stream. And the expectations that Anycolor probably had in mind is that they are students or part-timers (or NEETs) that don't mind having some of their free time relegated to be virtual streamer on the side. That said, that's on the JP side of things, and there is still possibility that EN didn't have that line of thinking and believed their talents must leave their jobs to be streamer full time or at the very least dedicated a big amount of time on it.

Also at the time Ver was still studying to be a lawyer and only recently that he's basically looking for a chance to be an actual lawyer, so by definition he's still "not in a job".

I think that they probably highly recommended deleting everything and quitting the jobs to the point of it SEEMING mandatory and some livers just didn't bite like Pomu
This is most likely the reason. Either it's intentionally made so that it sounded mandatory or it really was mandatory. We don't know for sure. As far as I know, it's not like its just Pomu that didn't drink the koolaid, there's probably other JP/ID/KR that didn't bother to fully delete their stuff because there's no reason to do so or as potential backup.
 

CalciumAnimal

Drink Milk
Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Twitter post dump because I genuinely cannot be bothered to put this in an easily digestible format. Some of the tweets are too long to embed properly, I added screenshots for those:

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What a shitshow. I don't think that Heero guy is going about it very intelligently and tries to create several arguments out of nothing when not necessary to make a solid case.
Nowhere does he actually show that Zen and Aster were in a serious relationship, his DM with Zen is a whole lotta nothing and even the Zen tweet is about an RP relationship, which, cringe as it is, is not the same as what he was insinuating.
His response to the guy who claims to be a friend of Aster is genuinely baffling:
"He had someone underage in his RP group!" - "I don't think that's true." - "Well yeah, I said it was false!"
What? This dude is not making sense. Also, trying to guilt this guy by saying Zen once had a fiancé is doxing or for being friends with Aster is really weird.

The last three tweets are admittedly by Nijisanji fans, but interesting nonetheless when taken with a grain of salt. I don't even know what a "paid leave" would look like at Nijisanji, if it's just them continuing to be paid merch proceeds or something else.

i feel like the hero guy is TRYING but hes too brain rotted to make his point/case without sounding like a screaming woman.
 

Azehara

Well-known member
!!Foot Dox Confirmed!!
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 11, 2022
I wonder if female NijiENs are just inhouse discord kittens for the real money makers at this point.
Honestly, that thought has crossed my mind multiple times in the past atleast for the "clique".

Twisty really did a number on herself with her behavior on her PL account leading up to the current drama. She had menhera meltdowns, vague-posted, and even lashed out at people attempting to support her for months as Delulu. That and including other people's accounts about her, coupled with the apology that is clearly meant to salvage any career she could have online after all of this is over, paints a picture of someone incredibly selfish, vindictive, and outright unpleasant to be around.
The thing that pisses me the most about it all is how she was lashing out against everyone for posting and commenting on shit she herself has said. Very high chance that she has been the one leaking some of the stuff (maybe not all) and for her to then turn around and get pissed at people is a great way to just alienate everyone. At this point she will become a Quinn where they failed to capitalize out of getting out of Niji and everyone will hate them, only watching whenever they start leaking or saying shit.

Devil's advocate: She's rather young at an age where beliefs can wildly fluctuate based off who and what she interacts with. Many people her age go into college thinking one way and come out thinking drastically differently.
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What if this was just Twisty's plan all along to go through the Nijisanji graduation queue faster?
We have known for a while now that she has wanted out, and this controversy is her way to jump the queue
It would seem that way. They have her in limbo and she expressed wanting to leave twice but they not letting her do so. So at this point it seems that shes just lighting shit on fire so that they get tired of her shit and kick her out before the entire building goes up in flames.

this would be a strange thing considering Pomu still had an OL job for a brief time of her Niji career, granted, she was first gen, but isnt Ver also a paralegal? Plenty of Niji people have their personal social media too


Thank you random sister for bringing up that your ex-oshis still interact with someone under investigation for being a sexpest!
Its possible that most of that changed after Niji's first 3 waves. Back when Pomu started, NijiEN 1 was a shot in the dark. Sure HoloEN was a massive success but Niji was still somewhat struggling (until gen 4 came out). Additionally I think they are talking mainly about entertainment ttype jobs. Something like office work shouldnt be much of a problem, but shit like voice acting, or vtubing is as it directly competes and cuts into the profits Nijisanji makes.

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RP relationship? This is the gayest shit I have seen come out of all of this.

Paid leave?

We know that Nijisanji doesnt pay a salary. That said in this situation and given all of the bad PR they have gotten, its not impossible to think that they would suspend the talents for a long period of time for shit to boil over and give them something so they dont expose them for basically keeping them hostage.

Again not probable given the information we have, but not impossible.
 

VSoyBoy

Well-known member
Joined:  Feb 16, 2024
Here's the teams:

Here's the EN members only. Ibrahim said "Yes" when they asked him how many EN he wanted:

Missing: Aster, Twisty and... Reimu :ameliaThink:

Aster, Twisty and Reimu are missing in the NijiKoshien draft. Sadly, it looks like the writing on the wall is turning into a novel for Reimu.
Just in time for people to catch onto the signs, she put out another tweet on her PL:

Reminder of what her pinned tweet is:

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I'm 75% on her leaving, shame it has to happen with all the vagueposting and shit surrounding the outfit reveal.
 

The Demon Pimp of Razgriz

Member
Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
That's giving her an awful lot of credit to assume she's clever enough to come up with that plan. Have you considered the alternative possibility that she might just be stupid?
This isn't really a clever plan and its the most likely explanation. She wants out. She's made it abundantly clear she wants out. Niji is effectively holding her career hostage, refusing to release her, but keeping her suspended, so she doesn't make any money. So, this is her way to force their hand. Doesn't require her to be smart, just manipulative and desperate.

Truthfully, with everything that's happened, her best bet is to get a lawyer involved and threaten Niji with a lawsuit. This suspension could count as workplace retaliation, which is straight up illegal, since its largely a response to her complaining about the sexual harassment. Not to mention that they didn't even investigate the initial complaint, which she could also sue them over. Even if NIji had the money to fight the case, that's bad PR they don't need right now. And no company wants to risk discovery. For a company like Niji, it would be devastating. She claims to have more receipts, including discord logs, messages to both staff and legal, and more to that recording of Aster, which, from the way she talks, is far more incriminating. Having all of that come out in a court case is not something that Niji wants. She probably has more than enough to simply force her way out of the contract at this point, or even argue that Niji's actions voided it. Considering how damning all of this is becoming, Niji will probably just let her walk in order to be done with it. The only thing is that if Twisty walks, Aster HAS to walk too, and probably at the same time. He's become too toxic to keep around, and the allegations against him are too damning to ignore anymore. If Twisty is terminated, Aster will have to be terminated at the same time, so that Niji doesn't look like their taking his side in the dispute. At this point, they can just fire him for cause, and be completely and legally in the clear.
 
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