"Whenever students say they hate a teacher, usually it means that student is an idiot! You are seriously the stupid one here. 'The best way to deal with this'? Just answer the question in one go, you really are dumb. Seriously stupid. 'They annoy me and make me crazy'? If the teacher was really that bad, other students would also complain, to the other teachers; Alas that's not the case here, you just don't like getting called out, and you imagine they're harrassing you. You're a dumbass! It's their job to call you in class, it's not as if they choose to speak to such a shithead of a student, it's their job! It's your turn and you get called, and your smartass doesn't want to answer, thus you keep getting picked, do you get it? The best way to deal with it is to grow up and do your job, that's how I see it"Gundou Mirei

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the moral of the story is that nobody can say how the industry will look in a year and who will be the most popular.
All we know is that the music must change, (for we’re chewing a bone. We soared like the sparrow hawk flied, then we dropped like a stone. Like the tide and the waves growing slowly in range, crushing mountains as old as the earth, so the music must change).
That wouldn't work either, some chats are way spammier than others, specially if the streamer encourages it.
Unofrtunately true.
To get realistic index you'll have to average highs and lows of each metric over multiple months (CCV, superchats, other engagements, VOD views...), then you can try to build some mathematical model that will boil it down to single number.
Each metric will have certain multiplier weight in the model, but weight will change over time with things like shorts or separate channel for VODs or branching to other platforms like tiktok
Even then, it’ll only take you so far. And also useless for instantaneous or even recent metrics.
 

SomeRando

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Indeed.
I will beg for Hitler to join phase as an invader, the biggest poach in vtuber history.

Hitler? I don't know if Phase can handle Argentinians

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>join Niji to be famous vtuber
>can't even beat an average McDonald's worker's weekly salary in donations
Never realized how hard Pomu carried Lazulight, damn
 

Aquatic Novellite

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Holo just showed us that the biggest moneymaker is merchandising anyway, the goal in the industry seems to be to find a niche, build a loyal audience, expand and create powerful IPs and then market the shit out of those and use the revenue to expand even more.
Yes, with the caveat that most people don't qualify it like you did, and just say "Merch is the biggest deal, who cares about supas, anyway, lol!" without looking closer, where you suddenly see that merch was consistently bigger than streaming revenue for Holo since mid/late 2022, and while streaming revenue is nowadays relatively minor, it's still a doubledigit percentage of its income, and no business interested in profit would randomly ignore 10+% of its income sources.

Merch is a big deal when you're big. Small corpos should have different priorities.

You also get shit like for instance Suisei barely streaming and leaving her SCs off for good measure but selling a hilarious amount of merch. I imagine that Suisei and Marine skew the normal merch to streaming income ratio rather heavily.

Oh, and the shork girl does that, too.
 

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A redditor pointed out what remains of the NijiID twitter

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Literally just graduation notices, shilling for Zea's song and Hanna Machia's 3d from 1 year ago
 

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Merch is a big deal when you're big. Small corpos should have different priorities.
Even 2-views say on a regular basis that they're surprised how much they earn from merch. I'd say 2-view with good creative merch can make more than high-3-view with nijisanji-level sloppy shit (hello Idol)
 

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Flipsie's shit-stirring has finally gotten to Finana.

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I'm honestly with the rotting fish filet here, flipsie is a fucking nuisance and has done nothing but clout chase and grift, building up his entire career literally off of a single drama. A parasite if I have ever seen one.
Yes but isn't it fun to watch a parasite latch onto someone you hate? It's like the Simpsons meme of the two monkeys fighting.
 

fortnitesmasherX

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I'm honestly with the rotting fish filet here, flipsie is a fucking nuisance and has done nothing but clout chase and grift, building up his entire career literally off of a single drama. A parasite if I have ever seen one.
Don't pretend that you wouldn't have wanted to send the same sort of message as him.
 

Nenélove

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Yes but isn't it fun to watch a parasite latch onto someone you hate? It's like the Simpsons meme of the two monkeys fighting.
I honestly don't hate any of the Nijis or the company for that matter, I was never invested in Niji's growth or its downfall. Their current situation is of their own making and completely unrelated to me, in short, my hate is wasted on them. I just like making fun of them and specially their fans.

I hate people like flipsie because they have no allegiances, and a corpo which I do like (Holo) and am invested in can and will be targeted by this vermin once Niji's carcass dries out. Niji can fix itself with enough effort, these grifters are nothing but worthless, unlike Niji which once upon a time contributed to the development of vtuber culture and tech, this leech has never done anything useful in his short existence.
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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I honestly don't hate any of the Nijis or the company for that matter, I was never invested in Niji's growth or its downfall. Their current situation is of their own making and completely unrelated to me, in short, my hate is wasted on them. I just like making fun of them and specially their fans.

I hate people like flipsie because they have no allegiances, and a corpo which I do like (Holo) and am invested in can and will be targeted by this vermin once Niji's carcass dries out. Niji can fix itself with enough effort, these grifters are nothing but worthless, unlike Niji which once upon a time contributed to the development of vtuber culture and tech, this leech has never done anything useful in his short existence.
Oh I 100% agree, I think flipsie should do a flip because they're a worthless vtweeting grifter and I enjoyed Niji in the past. However I enjoy watching NijiEN suffer because EN branch deserves to burn, there's no fixing it unless they are prepared to jettison nearly half the branch.

The grifter shouldn't be celebrated though like you mentioned, they're amoral opportunistic rats.
 

Thomas Talus

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Niji can fix itself with enough effort
I feel like this is one of those situations where effort isn't going to do anything unless they fundamentally change how they conceive of and relate to the concept of an overseas branch. Which I don't think they have the level of ability to self-reflect to pull off.
 

Egg the Boiled

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I'm honestly with the rotting fish filet here, flipsie is a fucking nuisance and has done nothing but clout chase and grift, building up his entire career literally off of a single drama. A parasite if I have ever seen one.
I can't remember who he even is, I just think the tweet was funny.:pippasadl:
 
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