Nijisanji L Collection

[x Hades Stamps]

TL;DR: The demise of the Male Nijis is much less likely. They make decent money and aren't a complete writeoff just yet, with a couple of notable exceptions. The girls are on the chopping block because they are being outperformed across the board.

A couple. Aster, and…who else?

Can KuroEN sink any lower?

Careful. They’ll prove the answer is yes.

Hololyzer hasn’t updated properly but playboard is saying her superchat total was $2,399. So, slightly better? Still disappointing.

Now Millie has moved from second-worst performing to third, according to those numbers. Rosemi’s still first, though.

 

[Limkin]

If you want to go full rainbow, maybe people weren't donating during Rosemi's stream because they kind of assumed she is just going to leave as soon as possible and there is no point in wasting money or encouraging her to stay there. Or because she didn't beg for money like a whore

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

If you want to go full rainbow, maybe people weren't donating during Rosemi's stream because they kind of assumed she is just going to leave as soon as possible and there is no point in wasting money or encouraging her to stay there. Or because she didn't beg for money like a whore

I've always felt like there was a huge overlap of people that watched Selen/Doki and people that watched Rosemi. So when Selen got terminated and all those fans that overlap got pissed off with Nijisanji, Rosemi suffered because those fans were completely done with supporting Nijisanji in any capacity.

 

[The Proctor]

Yet again Enna address her antis.

The fact that not one single person in this retarded company has apologized in any way for what they did to Selen is completely insane to me. They keep acting like they did nothing wrong. It speaks to such immense levels of arrogance and entitlement. At this point it doesn't matter if Selen was secretly doing lines of cocaine and actively viewbotting her rival's streams and then reporting them to management, the sheer reputational self-annihilation of acting this way is beyond staggering.

 

[RestlessRain]

The fact that not one single person in this retarded company has apologized in any way for what they did to Selen is completely insane to me. They keep acting like they did nothing wrong. It speaks to such immense levels of arrogance and entitlement. At this point it doesn't matter if Selen was secretly doing lines of cocaine and actively viewbotting her rival's streams and then reporting them to management, the sheer reputational self-annihilation of acting this way is beyond staggering.

Not only have they not apologized for Selen's treatment, they haven't done anything to try to salvage the branch's reputation or even try to reverse the sub loss after Selen. Haven't hired any PR specialists, haven't hired new managers or a new EN CEO, haven't tried to do any community events, haven't even tried to advertise the talents. Their whole strategy has been to do nothing and it's worked about as well as you'd expect.

 

[ChangqingEnjoyer]

They'll likely start the culling this May. My guesses:

Staying:
- Luxiem
- Noctyx
- Elira
- Finana
- Enna
- Millie
- Reimu
- Maria
- Hex
- Meloco
- Vanta
- Bandage
- Wilson
- Claw


Leaving:
- Aia
- Scarle
- Ren
- Doppio
- Ver
- Vivi
- Kunai

About Aster, AFAIK he did some shit with his previous group of VR chatters (@randomtranny u have info about this? His PL before joining Niji is Xygnia, a busty femboy demon. Saw some of his videos, it's not for the faint of heart) so Niji is his last resort. We'll know when the NijiEN Culling game begins.

The only thing I know about Aster is that some troon and whores tried to cancel him. Pre Niji.

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[El Rrata]

The fact that not one single person in this retarded company has apologized in any way for what they did to Selen is completely insane to me. They keep acting like they did nothing wrong. It speaks to such immense levels of arrogance and entitlement. At this point it doesn't matter if Selen was secretly doing lines of cocaine and actively viewbotting her rival's streams and then reporting them to management, the sheer reputational self-annihilation of acting this way is beyond staggering.

They lost their time window to apologize. Once the black screen stream and Riku video happened, no one was going to be allowed to apologize without getting the same treatment as Selen. An apology from any of the talents will be seen by the hardcore fans and Anycolor as a betrayal.

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What I am interested in seeing in terms of numbers is the 3D debuts of Luxiem. I think they will make a bunch of money from those even if their CCV may not be great.

 

[Seoleim]

The fact that not one single person in this retarded company has apologized in any way for what they did to Selen is completely insane to me. They keep acting like they did nothing wrong. It speaks to such immense levels of arrogance and entitlement. At this point it doesn't matter if Selen was secretly doing lines of cocaine and actively viewbotting her rival's streams and then reporting them to management, the sheer reputational self-annihilation of acting this way is beyond staggering.

At this point I'm legit wondering if Nijisanji is just some "The Producers" style venture designed from the get to go fail to hide illegal money that became successful. The level of arrogance and complete lack of caring about anything is staggering. Culture difference can only explain so much until you eventually stop and just say to yourself, jesus christ what is wrong with these pricks?

 

[NotDecatto]

Millie's 3D VOD has 259k views and Rosemi's 3D VOD has 149k views.

Talent	Max CCV	Avg CCV	Superchat (JPY/USD)
Rosemi Lovelock	14,948	12,192	¥276,760 / $1,826.62
Millie Parfait	14,328	12,443	¥370,791 / $2,410.14
Enna Alouette	17,122	14,043	¥ / $

Hololyzer hasn't updated properly but playboard is saying her superchat total was $2,399. So, slightly better? Still disappointing.

Still getting mogged by HomoEN.

Talent	Max CCV	Avg CCV	Superchat (JPY/USD)
Axel Syrios	17,265	15,446	¥593,855 / $3,978.83

Also I looked up the data on that Vox stream. He didn't just dip into 3 view territory, his avg CCV was sub 900 and he dipped below 800 viewers after 4.5 hours.

To be fair to Vox he was streaming around 1-4 am Ching Chong time so its understandable sisters (and botter) were asleep.

 

[VSoyBoy]

Also I looked up the data on that Vox stream. He didn't just dip into 3 view territory, his avg CCV was sub 900 and he dipped below 800 viewers after 4.5 hours.

To be fair, it's a 6 Hour RuneScape Stream. Not exactly prime entertainment. The remaining 800 people probably died of boredom.

 

[Nenélove]

Spoiler: March kaigai CCV table

Ignore the left table, the right table is ccv.

Tl;dr Nijisanji still firmly hold 2nd en spot despite their heavy hitters, enna, millie, vox, elira, petra wasn't streaming in march. (excluding vshojo)
Only pippa and temma in phase has high ccv, the rest dragged behind
Kaigai wise saw the rise of brazillian/thailand corpos as they over took even niji.
Indies are not that high for youtube numbers (beside doki/mint), there are some good twitch indies though but /vt/ autist refuse to include twitch and im not gonna be bothered either. I'd have tried but I found better things to do now. Subbing polka clips

Actually some guy did this

Spoiler: Indie CCV twitch/youtube included for march

1. Dokibird (9,620 ccv, month to month NA)
2. Neuro-sama (8,376 ccv, 14% down)
3. Filian (6,386 ccv, no change month to month)
4. Vei (5,780 ccv, down 16%)
5. Shylily (4,440 ccv, down 29%)
6. Shxtou (4,231 cvv, up 15%)
7: Anny (4,028 ccv, up 9%)
8: Numi (3,896 ccv, up 7%)
9: Sinder (3,490 ccv, up 17%)
10: Silvervale (3,158 ccv, up 9%)
11: Nyanners (2,998 ccv, up 7%)
12: Buffpup (2,576 ccv, down 2%)
13: Cottontail (2,297 ccv, down 8%)
14: Saruei (2,179 ccv, up 12%)
15: Bao (2,117 ccv, down 30%)
16: Limes (2,114 ccv, up 6%)
17: Yuzu (2,072 ccv, down 9%)
18: OlivaMonroe (1,943 ccv, up 43%)
19: Vienna (1,884 ccv, up 27%)
20: LucyPyre (1,867 ccv, up 6%)

It surprises me how absolutely trash EN viewerships are tbh, where not even HoloEN can really split from the pack. When you see the nips they usually have these massive outliers leagues ahead of everyone else, is this because of westoid underdog pushing or something?

 

[El Rrata]

To be fair, it's a 6 Hour RuneScape Stream. Not exactly prime entertainment. The remaining 800 people probably died of boredom.

Normie streamer I watch's average CCV is around 12k normally. This is what he was getting during OSRS streams:


Maybe the fag is just boring and can't hold an audience when he isn't fujobaiting? Actual skill issue?

It surprises me how absolutely trash EN viewerships are tbh, where not even HoloEN can really split from the pack. When you see the nips they usually have these massive outliers leagues ahead of everyone else, is this because of westoid underdog pushing or something?

VTubing in the West is a niche, while even normies will watch them in Japan. Even with these numbers, they are in the top 1% of Western streamers, anyway.

 

[VSoyBoy]

It surprises me how absolutely trash EN viewerships are tbh, where not even HoloEN can really split from the pack. When you see the nips they usually have these massive outliers leagues ahead of everyone else, is this because of westoid underdog pushing or something?

Simple, the outliers in EN viewership are all established Fleshstreamers, that's what VTubing as a collective niche is competing against.

 

[frz]

It surprises me how absolutely trash EN viewerships are tbh, where not even HoloEN can really split from the pack. When you see the nips they usually have these massive outliers leagues ahead of everyone else, is this because of westoid underdog pushing or something?

Normie streamer I watch's average CCV is around 12k normally. This is what he was getting during OSRS streams:
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Maybe the fag is just boring and can't hold an audience when he isn't fujobaiting? Actual skill issue?


VTubing in the West is a niche, while even normies will watch them in Japan. Even with these numbers, they are in the top 1% of Western streamers, anyway.

even youtube stream is a niche. Normies watches twitch in the western world
Also vtubing is a niche of the anime niche. People are unlikely to not like anime before liking vtubers and even the anime community look down on vtuber viewers.
A niche within a niche within a niche.
Tbf Gura had comparable viewership to HoloJP, she just ... stopped streaming. Her outfit reveal still one of hololive's most viewed stream ever.

 

[El Rrata]

even youtube stream is a niche. Normies watches twitch in the western world
Also vtubing is a niche of the anime niche. People are unlikely to not like anime before liking vtubers and even the anime community look down on vtuber viewers.
A niche within a niche within a niche.
Tbf Gura had comparable viewership to HoloJP, she just ... stopped streaming. Her outfit reveal still one of hololive's most viewed stream ever.

Also, Youtube numbers are inaccurate, as can be seen from any time someone does a poll. They don't account for people with adblock.

 

[niggaphil]

Maybe the fag is just boring and can't hold an audience when he isn't fujobaiting? Actual skill issue?

The original fujo/female fan groups are more interested in his ASMR shit and stuff. After he decided to kill his ASMR stream (because he got strike as adult content, and KuroEN won't help him to fight or remove the strike), his viewships are dropping significantly. Besides that, he plays some shit old retro game, or discuss some movie shit that the female fans not interested (at least fulgur would play BL game and read the BL novel to spark discussion with his fujo fans). Finally, the recent reveal of the new costume is the last straw that broke the fujo's camel back due to the conflicting story/lore with his original character story

Also, if you wondering why I know all of these shits, because my wife is a fan of the luxiem

 

[El Rrata]

Simple, the outliers in EN viewership are all established Fleshstreamers, that's what VTubing as a collective niche is competing against.

I wonder if Anycolor started asking how people would compete against xQc in their interviews.

 

[Limkin]

I wonder if Anycolor started asking how people would compete against xQc in their interviews.

Gura is a Niji supporter, she made it easier on new applicants by allowing to answer for the compete question with a simple "I will just stream lol"

 

[Kourai]

The fact that not one single person in this retarded company has apologized in any way for what they did to Selen is completely insane to me. They keep acting like they did nothing wrong. It speaks to such immense levels of arrogance and entitlement. At this point it doesn't matter if Selen was secretly doing lines of cocaine and actively viewbotting her rival's streams and then reporting them to management, the sheer reputational self-annihilation of acting this way is beyond staggering.

I mean...

Purely hypothetically, if Froot claimed she attempted suicide because of "Where's the money" posts on TVA, even if she had proof she was hospitalised, you would not apologise. One, because it's a dumb reason to attempt suicide which you cannot be held morally or legally responsible for. Two, because you and Froot's fans already mutually dislike each other.

Obviously, our hypothetical Froot could have just closed the TVA tab, while Selen had to work with her managers and fellow talents. So there is much more room for Niji to actually be in the wrong, as I believe they are. My point is, reaching the level of antipathy Niji has displayed is not difficult.

They lost their time window to apologize. Once the black screen stream and Riku video happened, no one was going to be allowed to apologize without getting the same treatment as Selen. An apology from any of the talents will be seen by the hardcore fans and Anycolor as a betrayal.

The black screen stream and the Riku video were at odds. Compared to the black screen's "Selen is a lying whore who lies", the Riku video was at least an insincere apology; he (correctly, if incompletely) zoomed in on "negligible" and how it devalued Selen. I don't think Nijisisters saw that as a betrayal. As long as they get their anime... material, I don't think they expect consistency. As for betraying Anycolor? If Riku can bow to filthy gaijin for the shareholders, so can Yasuhiro and the black screen team. Why hasn't Riku forced them to do so?
...

 

[Superduper Samurai]

To be fair, it's a 6 Hour RuneScape Stream. Not exactly prime entertainment. The remaining 800 people probably died of boredom.

I think you're right that its a pure debuff stream because its OSRS

Normie streamer I watch's average CCV is around 12k normally. This is what he was getting during OSRS streams:


Maybe the fag is just boring and can't hold an audience when he isn't fujobaiting? Actual skill issue?

But rrat is right in that his remaining audience doesnt care about OSRS, in the golden years NijiEN still had the wider crowd and maybe some fans of the women or just people who werent fujos in general would've tuned in to Vox play a very massively popular autism game

But now Vox has firmly carved out his niche for chink fujos and he has no real reasons for anyone outside of that bubble to watch him, all of the boys lost their normie and male "hes just like me fr fr" appeal quite some time ago

Edit: to not double post, allegedly, according to a reddit post, this is how the Niji M&Gs were setup