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Nijisanji L Collection

Superduper Samurai

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Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
It's vtubing. It's Nijisanji.

Nobody notices a "strike" because Nijisanji in particular has talents that haven't streamed for several years still on the books. Other corpos aren't far behind, either. Hololive has 2021- 23 Ayame and 2023- current Gura.

And these are top talents, not 2views whose combined impact on corporate finances amounts to a rounding error.

Smaller corpos don't look meaningfully different, even if we ignore the Hime Hajime meme.

If it's standard industry practice to not give a shit if the talents don't stream, the fuck would a strike do?
People would notice if it was enough people within a sub unit or a gen.
Nijisanji trimming the fat actually has them only with slightly more people than HoloEN and Holostars EN combined (26+1 english speaking Holos total vs 30 NijiENs total)
Even if you just count HoloEN, its still 16+1, barely over half (the +1 here being FWMC)
Sum up the HoloIDs that also have fairly large EN followings and you also have 9 more ESL EN-speaking talents, while NijiID's EN fanbase was congregated around Hana Macchia and Mika, and there are only 6 IDs remaining anyways
They are slowly losing the numbers bulk that allows people to not notice things, especially after the entirety of 2024 gave them a huge spotlight of drama, i think if it were to happen, which it really probably wont, it would be noticeable even if just 3 or 4 people participate.
 

Hff201

Pippa Fan, Failed Normalfriend
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Joined:  Sep 13, 2022
Niji EN talents would gain nothing from striking; the clique would stream as usual since they get preferential treatment and don't see anything wrong with the company as it is, and those not in the clique don't seem particularly well-off so they need all the superchats and memberships they can get.
 

MythicalSloth

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Joined:  Jan 24, 2023

Smelliest007

I left Kson
Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
I wonder what's stopping them from going on strike?

Like not announcing it to the public but internally choosing as a talent branch to not stream until minimal managerial conditions are met, I'm sure that the risk of dissolving the entire EN side is enough to at least give some concessions.

And if there's no budge, they could quit at any time and form a non-corpo vtuber group ala V-Dere as post-niji indies instead of quitting one by one as if it were a dropper.
After all "You can leave at anytime"
Lol, lmao. You think the clique would kill their only low effort but paying job?
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Latte'Ninba

May we never go to Hell but always be on our way
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Joined:  Sep 9, 2022
Not usually one to be all "herp derp" info drop type shit, especially regarding member stuff, but a certain ghost in her member stream revealed that "someone" didn't even know until they were told by a friend that "Heaven" denied them a chance to do a Metal Gear collaboration.

Said the convo basically amounted to a friend talking while they were hanging out saying: "It kind of sucks about the Metal Gear opportunity."
To which she replied "What are you talking about? I never had that."
"They never told you?"

Says she didn't even know until after she was "back on Earth." Which means the company couldn't even be assed to tell her themselves that they just shot it down. It's kind of been fucking with her since she learned of it in the back of her mind about a year ago and she was in there crying. It sort of sounds like it was put forward (and denied) before "another vtuber" who ended up doing it got the gig, presuming they didn't approach multiple at the same time.

"I call it Heaven because when I first graduated it was like I'm an angel now, I'm in Heaven! ... I perhaps have Choice words for it now."
... So that was one opportunity. APPARENTLY another she got denied was an artist she really likes wanted to do a record deal or something which also got shot down.
:kurosanji::kurosanji:

She's cheered up by now though at least and is doin some yappin. It's mostly all within the first forty minutes or so.
I would be trying to archive it but because I'm retarded I'm not sure what changes to follow in the archive thread to grab member stuff off Brave. Not ambitious enough to start looking for and downloading random shit to try.
I imagine it's going to get out there either way though. Guess if I at least mention it then people can look out for it so they can check themselves.
 

Smelliest007

I left Kson
Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
Mint
Not usually one to be all "herp derp" info drop type shit, especially regarding member stuff, but a certain ghost in her member stream revealed that "someone" didn't even know until they were told by a friend that "Heaven" denied them a chance to do a Metal Gear collaboration.

Said the convo basically amounted to a friend talking while they were hanging out saying: "It kind of sucks about the Metal Gear opportunity."
To which she replied "What are you talking about? I never had that."
"They never told you?"

Says she didn't even know until after she was "back on Earth." Which means the company couldn't even be assed to tell her themselves that they just shot it down. It's kind of been fucking with her since she learned of it in the back of her mind about a year ago and she was in there crying. It sort of sounds like it was put forward (and denied) before "another vtuber" who ended up doing it got the gig, presuming they didn't approach multiple at the same time.

"I call it Heaven because when I first graduated it was like I'm an angel now, I'm in Heaven! ... I perhaps have Choice words for it now."
... So that was one opportunity. APPARENTLY another she got denied was an artist she really likes wanted to do a record deal or something which also got shot down.
:kurosanji::kurosanji:

She's cheered up by now though at least and is doin some yappin. It's mostly all within the first forty minutes or so.
I would be trying to archive it but because I'm retarded I'm not sure what changes to follow in the archive thread to grab member stuff off Brave. Not ambitious enough to start looking for and downloading random shit to try.
I imagine it's going to get out there either way though. Guess if I at least mention it then people can look out for it so they can check themselves.
Watched it too, can confirm.
Also this dropped about 15 minutes ago. Think it's related? It was definitely after the Metal Gear comments.

 

Saturnus

haha it's unou
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
Said the convo basically amounted to a friend talking while they were hanging out saying: "It kind of sucks about the Metal Gear opportunity."
To clarify for dramafags because this is leaking from the stream; She heard it off-handedly from Other talents that were still in Nijisanji EN after graduating. Management never told her the opportunity that was missed, her former co-workers had to break the news to her.
APPARENTLY another she got denied was an artist she really likes wanted to do a record deal or something which also got shot down.
The rrat going around was that this was a collab with Niji no Conquistador. Basically both guesses at what the missed opportunity were true.

Also you might as well drop the quote from Management they said to her.
"they didn't even think [NijiEN] were worth doing deals with"
edit: If you ever wonder why Nijisanji EN rarely if ever gets any sort of big brand deal (even before they hit rock bottom) it is entirely because of this quote btw. The Exception might be Luxiem.
 
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Latte'Ninba

May we never go to Hell but always be on our way
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Mint

Watched it too, can confirm.
Also this dropped about 15 minutes ago. Think it's related? It was definitely after the Metal Gear comments.


Dunno. It's random, but a bunch of these ladies drop random tweets all the time. It would also imply that either Calli is in the stream or cruising a place that keeps up live like /vt/ or something. We've always had guesses on who does that but per usual it's hard to prove. So not going to make any personal bets myself.

To clarify for dramafags because this is leaking from the stream; She heard it off-handedly from Other talents that were still in Nijisanji EN after graduating. Management never told her the opportunity that was missed, her former co-workers had to break the news to her.

The rrat going around was that this was a collab with Niji no Conquistador. Basically both guesses at what the missed opportunity were true.

Also you might as well drop the quote from Management they said to her.

edit: If you ever wonder why Nijisanji EN rarely if ever gets any sort of big brand deal (even before they hit rock bottom) it is entirely because of this quote btw. The Exception might be Luxiem.
I probably should have waited and let someone smarter or with the VoD word things better. This a pretty decent and specifically relevant point to miss.
 

Smelliest007

I left Kson
Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
I probably should have waited and let someone smarter or with the VoD word things better. This a pretty decent and specifically relevant point to miss.
You and me, both.
 

Saturnus

haha it's unou
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
Mint

Watched it too, can confirm.
Also this dropped about 15 minutes ago. Think it's related? It was definitely after the Metal Gear comments.


I've went back through the VOD and I could believe this Mori tweet to maybe correlate to what Mint said. She mentions that the Metal Gear opportunity was given to someone else around the same time too.
My rrat here is that Konami offered both Hololive and Nijisanji EN a deal. Hololive obviously followed through. Nijisanji did not.
Whoever is the Branch Director of NijiEN (completely different than Harry who was the lead talent manager) needs to be boiled in liquid shit for eternity for flubbing this hard.
 

ValkyrieAce

in a toxic relationship with IRyS
Joined:  Jan 28, 2023
Counterpoint: She dodged a fucking bullet because it was that god awful sneaking song.

It does suck for her to lose the big opportunity with that record label or whatever it was though.
 

Smelliest007

I left Kson
Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
I've went back through the VOD and I could believe this Mori tweet to maybe correlate to what Mint said. She mentions that the Metal Gear opportunity was given to someone else around the same time too.
My rrat here is that Konami offered both Hololive and Nijisanji EN a deal. Hololive obviously followed through. Nijisanji did not.
Whoever is the Branch Director of NijiEN (completely different than Harry who was the lead talent manager) needs to be boiled in liquid shit for eternity for flubbing this hard.
I mean, who cares? Luxiem, Enna, and Elira are the powerhouses of EN and still are, amirite guys?

:thisisFine:
 

Saturnus

haha it's unou
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
"We aren't gonna grow the brand because it isn't big enough"
What kind of pea-brain move is this? I get shit like "Upper management is afraid of getting sued so that shit ain't happening" but why would you ever kneecap yourself on purpose when there was no downside to it??
Unironically the only guess I have here is Numbers, maybe? To put in perspective here, Pomu was popular in the EN fandom but never had the NOOOOMBER popularity. She kind of prefaced this before getting into it alluding to her month hiatus after her preventative surgery she did after her debut.
I mean, who cares? Luxiem, Enna, and Elira are the powerhouses of EN and still are, amirite guys?
If we employ the favoritism here, it sounds like it was passed to the favorites/clique but they respectively tried to hand it to Mint (Which is how whoever she talked with in Japan with Matara knew but she didn't). Management is actually malicious to a degree and just decided no big number Liver taking it up = not worth following through. Then management just, never followed up with her.
 
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JusticeDog

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Also you might as well drop the quote from Management they said to her.
Did you bracket Niji EN in the wrong "they" here?
"[Niji EN] didn't even think [other companies] were worth doing deals with."
Written like this it could be read as Niji thinks they're too good to do collabs with others. Which would fit the story of them declining so much stuff for some bizarre stupid reason.
If we employ the favoritism here, it sounds like it was passed to the favorites/clique but they respectively tried to hand it to Mint (Which is how whoever she talked with in Japan with Matara knew but she didn't). Management is actually malicious to a degree and just decided no big number Liver taking it up = not worth following through. Then management just, never followed up with her.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is how it happened, it would be hard to imagine any other way that other livers could know about the opportunity while she somehow never heard it. Especially for so long.

Makes you wonder how many times the company has fucked any of them over on other opportunities that the livers got that they never knew of because management apparently doesn't even bother to tell them about them.

:iryswhat:
It's a real mystery why more people don't leave with management so terrible.
 

El Rrata

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Smelliest007

I left Kson
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I highly doubt Calli is vagueposting about something Mint said in a members-only stream lol
Counterpoint: White woman who is ride or die moment lol.
It's a real mystery why more people don't leave with management so terrible.
Never going to dissuade me that there is a malicious-of-varying-levels clique who for the most part knows they aren't talented or hard-working enough to carry themselves in a post-Niji environment. And the rest are trapped, retarded, or gaslit. Pick your poison; mix your flavors.

:kurosanji:
Fuck Nijisanji, fuck Nijisisters. Especially the ones on /NijiEN/
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Limkin

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Luca changed a lot over the holidays
They are selling "Pampering Voice" and "Scolding Voice" voicepacks but all of the pampering have guys on the image and all of the scolding girls. Despite the fact that both of them have female and male groups to pick from. So as an average customer you might not even realize your oshi has a voicepack that you want unless you autistically click on every single one of them to check. Also guys have 4 different artworks (2EN and 2JP) and girls only 2 (both JP) but that's not surprising at this point. A lot of them are double dipping with selling JP and EN voicelines as separate voicepacks
Most important part - Aster is included in this merch
 

Zyklon Mag

CIA JUDEN BURN IN HELL WEEEEEEEEEE
Joined:  Sep 14, 2023
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