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She was already posting content on PL, and is most definitely the type to stand up and walk away if she doesn't like something, as opposed to just taking it. Sucks that the model is probably gone, it's easy in top 5 vtuber designs overall
For me I think the issue is Mozzu has an extremely over sexualized model, but it still fundamentally good. Easily identifiable, fits her character (at least the Roman outfit), is well made, etc. You look at Mozzu's model and after you finish
-ing at it you can acknowledge that it is high quality. Elia's 2.0 is basically the exact opposite - you're supposed to use the over sexualization to distract you from the fact that it looks like something a random 1-view Twitch indie would be using, not a girl who has made tens of thousands of dollars in her VTubing career already. It has basically nothing positive to make it memorable or even recognizable as Elia in the sea of sexualized white hair anime girls out there.Well that's a pretty damning write up. Definitely a lot of overlap with some of the concerns I posted about Ekko pre-debut as well (Twitch clique pandering, extremely negative response to criticism, etc) but thankfully a lot of that has gotten better since debut in Ekko's case. I do notice though a big overlap in Discord fandoms being so against "unsolicited opinions" or constructive criticism/feedback. Am I wrong for thinking these girls shouldn't publicly post about their problems/"pity-bait"/whatever you want to call it if they don't want genuine answers? I really don't get the mindset that if a VTuber feels the need to vent the only thing a fan should do in response is coddle them...
What is the context of this lmao? Did she read a superchat and say this out loud or something? Nenelove your kamioshi is something else. 
I'll miss echo line's model if she graduates, I love that silly tomato robot
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No context, you do not need any context.What is the context of this lmao? Did she read a superchat and say this out loud or something? Nenelove your kamioshi is something else.
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Daily reminder that Vallure does all those goals for free, specially Stronny, fuck that bitch i know why Mozu decided to kick her out"If she's actually a good friend to the v-dere girls"
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She was barely out the door before taking a parting shot at v-dere. Strap in because I'm popping off.
Elia is incredibly fake and 2024 was a gradual mask-off moment. I've followed her since her time at Kawaii and I've gone from thinking the world of her to seeing her as hysterically bitter who thinks the world owes her a favor. She overvalues her unwarranted self-importance and became belligerent, blames others for her inability to handle her finances, is drifting towards twitch clique route, and there's nothing left resembling what made her good when she was in Kawaii.
Last year saw her content slowly take a dive:
The straw that broke the camel's back for me was a membership stream in October, shortly before leaving v-dere, where she had a huge melty. She lashed out at her genmates; acted spiteful over their success, blamed them for her stagnation, acted like she does everything for v-dere when she was frequently shown to slack on group work to the point where she wanted to stop group work because it didn't "benefit her" (Proctor might remember how she was surprised at a slide during Vexpo because she didn't help with it, and once left all the collab setup to the other girls midstream whilst she just fucking played Mario Kart!).
- Absent for months on indulgent vacations.
- Collab spam.
- Dropped all video and shorts content.
- Drifting more towards her twitch audience to chase numbers, despite YT having held her up since Kawaii days.
- Frequent instances of lashing out at fans who dared to speak out (sometimes justified but still shitty to sit through).
- Slop and zatsu spam when not collabing, TFT, League, FOTM and back-to-back readings (her voice isn't all that).
Worst of all she accused them of leeching money from her, and she holds all the times she offered to pay for things against the girls, including the Fan-funded trip to Japan.
To top it off she completely blew her lid at a comment suggesting that she dragged v-dere into her donothon goal, really showcasing how she reacts to the slightest critique. Even in her discord fans felt like they couldn't give feedback because she would go mental:
She also blabbed about whatever v-dere drama happened behind the scenes to other vtubers, so scratch a point for trustworthiness too. Whatever she said, they concluded that "friends shouldn't treat you like that." She got to hear back exactly what she wanted to hear and I imagine she was given lots of other pussy pats from third parties until she deluded herself free of any misdoings and felt justified in leaving rather than try to fix things. Place your bets: Yesman male vtuber grooming or cattish female vtuber clique mentality?
Here's some /vt/ spergery that was reacting to her 2.0 because it brings up some valid topics on why she's awful:
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Screwing over Airi
Knowing how schizo /vt/ is, he probably means Airi was screwed over for being left to collab with a male on her own that one time. The actual bad thing Elia did was all but implicate Airi as being an ungrateful money leech during vexpo, knowing that some fans had begun watching her content too. Elia was really fucking salty about seeing her subscribers going to Airi after the months Elia was away. Rather than be happy that Airi found some success (and understand there's going to be osmosis in any vtuber group) she just got bitter. I don't buy what Elia said, Airi isn't so poor she can't afford to pay for herself and wouldn't impose beyond teasing, there's more to that story Elia isn't telling. Despite saying she doesn't expect anything back when she does offer to pay for things:
Abandoning her dog:
Effectively yes. She wasn't home to care for it most of last year and ended up giving it away before she moved to Japan. I would have some pity for her since it's never good to part from a pet, but now she wants a cat despite having temporary visa to stay in Japan. So fuck her. This is ALL a symptom of how irresponsible she is and doesn't think about how her actions will affect others. She could take the cat back but considering she no longer has family to look after pets for her in Japan and how often she travels, it borders on animal cruelty to get a pet with her working circumstances.
As for the dono goals and GFE...
Yeah, even if ironically, she's leaning hard into using her GIRL factor to peddle goals. She was even nice enough to justify ANOTHER vacation for fans to fund. The worst thing about the rewards is that they're so half-assed considering how important this was to her, this is her self-proclaimed big break. She had months to think of things. Well, she would have if she didn't immediately travel when she moved to Japan and wasted all her prep time in Sapporo. Oops.
Those top donor goals FUCKING SUCK. Second place get's less than the random person who wins the $4000 random merch giveaway, whilst the top earner gets heaps of awards (but still nothing thrilling.) They pale in comparison to last year's too so it's not repeat behavior she's just phoned it in.
There's a few other things too, like promising a drink stream even though last time she promised that she spent it collabing and was SO mad at chat when they called her out for it she not only scolded them on stream, claiming she wasn't comfortable, she doubled down with a callout post too:
A last thing to note about the current donothon: she had one in November too, the same year as her 80k donothon. Why be consistent when you can milk your fans in one big swoop and then slack off?View attachment 92098
nobody ever said they wanted sussy time from what I could see, that was her own projection. She is very clearly the kind of metoo grifter and has had to hold back going full tilt on SJW equality rants because of her mixed race woes in the past. She definitely hates GFE but takes advantage of it anyway.
You've surely heard the reputation that she pitybaits? It's entirely true.
All her stories are twisted to be some great tragedy against her. She sounds sympathetic at first, but don't be fooled. She would make out that life is truly unjust to her, but after being around her for so long and seeing how she reacts to things I can say all her issues are a consequence of her own irresponsibility and all transgressions against her amount to little more than microaggressions or being offended that she's not being the center of attention. She's the sort to unironically say she gets triggered and flaunt how she's such a (self-declared) introvert to make her seem braver for basic bitch engagements.
As for her time in v-dere: she would have you believe she did so much for them but the most she ever did was a largely self-serving Palworld collab where they GAVE money away (poor financial choices) and paid for a Minecraft server, that she abruptly stopped paying for without telling anyone so everyone lost their progress. Nice one, Elia!
There was also the Japan trip but that was an extension of her own indulgence, and again, fan-funded.
Fun fact: did you know Mozu paid Elia back for her Japan trip? And not once has Elia ever mentioned it despite making such a scene about having to pay for everyone's Japan trip and frequently making the girls look like the bad guys by "making" her be the wallet?
When v-dere announced they would have a concert at offkai this year she tweeted this:
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Bitch actually tried to insinuate she had any involvement in the concert and act like the opportunity was ripped from her. Even more signs that she paints everything in the worst possible light to make her look good. Offkai only announced their policy not to have any returning guests for 2025 in January (iirc). That means v-dere had to organize a sponsorship MONTHS after Elia left. Any influence Elia had would be worth approximately fuck all.
Is she the worst vtuber ever? No. The general negative sentiment towards her isn't unwarranted though. It's worth having some firsthand experience written up for posterity because it's not immediately obvious unless you've been around her long enough. Every so often she will do something for another vtuber that seems good, but remember that it's tainted gold.
I don't want her to crash and burn, but with the way she's going I don't want her to have any influence in the scene either. Ideally, Elia will reflect on how she's been behaving and reel it in, get over herself and try and connect to what used to make her fun. Be genuine towards her fans again instead of acting like she is whilst transparently only prioritizing her own indulgences.
When I look at her 2.0 all I can think is "that's what her soul looks like." It's at complete odds with how she tries to depict herself, 1.0 was perfect for that, but 2.0 fits her manic twofaced nature perfectly.
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Dude you have to be kidding this outfit is no more coomer the Mozus hell they're probably showing the same amount of skin
Like I don't watch this Elia girl but who are you kidding?
Dude you have to be kidding this outfit is no more coomer the Mozus hell they're probably showing the same amount of skin
Like I don't watch this Elia girl but who are you kidding?
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If I wanted to watch big tiddies anime girl in a nightgown with white hair I have at least three options just from people I am subbed to, and none of them have "My parents are siblings and I am inbred for the last 5 generations" look. Richamu isn't even a whore, she is just a dork who is trying her best to look like "sexy onee-san" but her content is pg-13. She is definitely going for a very specific demographic with this one
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Mozu was like that from the beginning, she made that 2.0 just out of jealousy that people dont even remember her name while everyone knows Mozu
Yeah rie the company who makes limited runs of merch should prototype and produce everyone in a group. Fuck them if they don't recoup the costs of making a figurine or plushie from the mid members of said group.
Also it's fucking hilarious because this tweet could in textbooks as an actual example of the femoid brain. You can clearly see there's logical thought in there but that shit is thrown out the fucking window and is replaced by an emotional thought.
TL:"[Report]
I canceled my plan of joining 910inc (wactor).
It was a very scary world.
I will continue to prepare for my activities as an individual. I apologise to those who had high expectations.
Debirnya."
She was clearly a big fan of Mike, seeing as she based most of her looks and a lot of her personality on Mike.
So seeing Mike leave just as she got in must have been hard.
I'm more surprised that wactor has a viable exit clause for pre-debut talents.
TL:"[Report]
I canceled my plan of joining 910inc (wactor).
It was a very scary world.
I will continue to prepare for my activities as an individual. I apologise to those who had high expectations.
Debirnya."
Someone did not do their research and got the entire WACTOR lore including the doxxing and the piloting
OK you fake lazy dramafags, i finally got time to listen to Seely's response to purplestain stream (which she, again, promised to keep but deleted!).
TLDL about contention point:
> she noticed she getting locked out of accounts one after another
> she started contacting everything in panic, no one was telling her what's going on
> after she got locked out of everything, someone wrote to her Seely account that some shit's going down in a few minutes (without clarifying)
> she wrote to False
> globie tweet goes up
> only half a hour later or so she recieve email grom globie
Overall, it started as a personal powertrip drama becasue she dared to not like lolis (LMFAO).
Also confirming that:
> her manager is lower than tourist and never even heard such names as Pekora and Marine
> globie PR, marketing, creative and probably legal is all being done by the single director guy (which Brave top guys were very happy about)
archive, audio only
Original VOD link was, as you can guess from filename, twitch.tv/videos/2396759039
After that, False did another news video, but didn't even mention Globie. Examplary journalistic work.
TLDL about contention point:
> she noticed she getting locked out of accounts one after another
> she started contacting everything in panic, no one was telling her what's going on
> after she got locked out of everything, someone wrote to her Seely account that some shit's going down in a few minutes (without clarifying)
> she wrote to False
> globie tweet goes up
> only half a hour later or so she recieve email grom globie
Overall, it started as a personal powertrip drama becasue she dared to not like lolis (LMFAO).
Also confirming that:
> her manager is lower than tourist and never even heard such names as Pekora and Marine
> globie PR, marketing, creative and probably legal is all being done by the single director guy (which Brave top guys were very happy about)
archive, audio only
Original VOD link was, as you can guess from filename, twitch.tv/videos/2396759039
After that, False did another news video, but didn't even mention Globie. Examplary journalistic work.
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Minto twitter space. Black pantsu today
i feel like its worth pointing out her twittard "shots" don't have to be true just true enough to hurt which is her goal especially about "putting the concert into motion" if she had ANY part in getting it started then it doesn't matter how negligible her efforts were ."If she's actually a good friend to the v-dere girls"
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She was barely out the door before taking a parting shot at v-dere. Strap in because I'm popping off.
Elia is incredibly fake and 2024 was a gradual mask-off moment. I've followed her since her time at Kawaii and I've gone from thinking the world of her to seeing her as hysterically bitter who thinks the world owes her a favor. She overvalues her unwarranted self-importance and became belligerent, blames others for her inability to handle her finances, is drifting towards twitch clique route, and there's nothing left resembling what made her good when she was in Kawaii.
Last year saw her content slowly take a dive:
The straw that broke the camel's back for me was a membership stream in October, shortly before leaving v-dere, where she had a huge melty. She lashed out at her genmates; acted spiteful over their success, blamed them for her stagnation, acted like she does everything for v-dere when she was frequently shown to slack on group work to the point where she wanted to stop group work because it didn't "benefit her" (Proctor might remember how she was surprised at a slide during Vexpo because she didn't help with it, and once left all the collab setup to the other girls midstream whilst she just fucking played Mario Kart!).
- Absent for months on indulgent vacations.
- Collab spam.
- Dropped all video and shorts content.
- Drifting more towards her twitch audience to chase numbers, despite YT having held her up since Kawaii days.
- Frequent instances of lashing out at fans who dared to speak out (sometimes justified but still shitty to sit through).
- Slop and zatsu spam when not collabing, TFT, League, FOTM and back-to-back readings (her voice isn't all that).
Worst of all she accused them of leeching money from her, and she holds all the times she offered to pay for things against the girls, including the Fan-funded trip to Japan.
To top it off she completely blew her lid at a comment suggesting that she dragged v-dere into her donothon goal, really showcasing how she reacts to the slightest critique. Even in her discord fans felt like they couldn't give feedback because she would go mental:
She also blabbed about whatever v-dere drama happened behind the scenes to other vtubers, so scratch a point for trustworthiness too. Whatever she said, they concluded that "friends shouldn't treat you like that." She got to hear back exactly what she wanted to hear and I imagine she was given lots of other pussy pats from third parties until she deluded herself free of any misdoings and felt justified in leaving rather than try to fix things. Place your bets: Yesman male vtuber grooming or cattish female vtuber clique mentality?
Here's some /vt/ spergery that was reacting to her 2.0 because it brings up some valid topics on why she's awful:
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Screwing over Airi
Knowing how schizo /vt/ is, he probably means Airi was screwed over for being left to collab with a male on her own that one time. The actual bad thing Elia did was all but implicate Airi as being an ungrateful money leech during vexpo, knowing that some fans had begun watching her content too. Elia was really fucking salty about seeing her subscribers going to Airi after the months Elia was away. Rather than be happy that Airi found some success (and understand there's going to be osmosis in any vtuber group) she just got bitter. I don't buy what Elia said, Airi isn't so poor she can't afford to pay for herself and wouldn't impose beyond teasing, there's more to that story Elia isn't telling. Despite saying she doesn't expect anything back when she does offer to pay for things:
Abandoning her dog:
Effectively yes. She wasn't home to care for it most of last year and ended up giving it away before she moved to Japan. I would have some pity for her since it's never good to part from a pet, but now she wants a cat despite having temporary visa to stay in Japan. So fuck her. This is ALL a symptom of how irresponsible she is and doesn't think about how her actions will affect others. She could take the cat back but considering she no longer has family to look after pets for her in Japan and how often she travels, it borders on animal cruelty to get a pet with her working circumstances.
As for the dono goals and GFE...
Yeah, even if ironically, she's leaning hard into using her GIRL factor to peddle goals. She was even nice enough to justify ANOTHER vacation for fans to fund. The worst thing about the rewards is that they're so half-assed considering how important this was to her, this is her self-proclaimed big break. She had months to think of things. Well, she would have if she didn't immediately travel when she moved to Japan and wasted all her prep time in Sapporo. Oops.
Those top donor goals FUCKING SUCK. Second place get's less than the random person who wins the $4000 random merch giveaway, whilst the top earner gets heaps of awards (but still nothing thrilling.) They pale in comparison to last year's too so it's not repeat behavior she's just phoned it in.
There's a few other things too, like promising a drink stream even though last time she promised that she spent it collabing and was SO mad at chat when they called her out for it she not only scolded them on stream, claiming she wasn't comfortable, she doubled down with a callout post too:
A last thing to note about the current donothon: she had one in November too, the same year as her 80k donothon. Why be consistent when you can milk your fans in one big swoop and then slack off?View attachment 92098
nobody ever said they wanted sussy time from what I could see, that was her own projection. She is very clearly the kind of metoo grifter and has had to hold back going full tilt on SJW equality rants because of her mixed race woes in the past. She definitely hates GFE but takes advantage of it anyway.
You've surely heard the reputation that she pitybaits? It's entirely true.
All her stories are twisted to be some great tragedy against her. She sounds sympathetic at first, but don't be fooled. She would make out that life is truly unjust to her, but after being around her for so long and seeing how she reacts to things I can say all her issues are a consequence of her own irresponsibility and all transgressions against her amount to little more than microaggressions or being offended that she's not being the center of attention. She's the sort to unironically say she gets triggered and flaunt how she's such a (self-declared) introvert to make her seem braver for basic bitch engagements.
As for her time in v-dere: she would have you believe she did so much for them but the most she ever did was a largely self-serving Palworld collab where they GAVE money away (poor financial choices) and paid for a Minecraft server, that she abruptly stopped paying for without telling anyone so everyone lost their progress. Nice one, Elia!
There was also the Japan trip but that was an extension of her own indulgence, and again, fan-funded.
Fun fact: did you know Mozu paid Elia back for her Japan trip? And not once has Elia ever mentioned it despite making such a scene about having to pay for everyone's Japan trip and frequently making the girls look like the bad guys by "making" her be the wallet?
When v-dere announced they would have a concert at offkai this year she tweeted this:
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Bitch actually tried to insinuate she had any involvement in the concert and act like the opportunity was ripped from her. Even more signs that she paints everything in the worst possible light to make her look good. Offkai only announced their policy not to have any returning guests for 2025 in January (iirc). That means v-dere had to organize a sponsorship MONTHS after Elia left. Any influence Elia had would be worth approximately fuck all.
Is she the worst vtuber ever? No. The general negative sentiment towards her isn't unwarranted though. It's worth having some firsthand experience written up for posterity because it's not immediately obvious unless you've been around her long enough. Every so often she will do something for another vtuber that seems good, but remember that it's tainted gold.
I don't want her to crash and burn, but with the way she's going I don't want her to have any influence in the scene either. Ideally, Elia will reflect on how she's been behaving and reel it in, get over herself and try and connect to what used to make her fun. Be genuine towards her fans again instead of acting like she is whilst transparently only prioritizing her own indulgences.
When I look at her 2.0 all I can think is "that's what her soul looks like." It's at complete odds with how she tries to depict herself, 1.0 was perfect for that, but 2.0 fits her manic twofaced nature perfectly.
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