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General Thread v3: The Hexagone

USS IOWA

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Ready for some European cultural exchange that does not involve a war?
 

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CalciumAnimal

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Was 2023 as active or more active in terms of new vtuber agencies popping up?
Out of my own asshole: But I suspect there's gonna be a small resurgence of Vtuber Agencies if not now then soon tends to be how markets work. a decent number of them shut down there will be a scramble to fill perceived niches.

Also it's been about long enough for the lates to arrive seeing how all the companies fucked up and trying to out do them (yes this has already happened and the grooming will continue till agencies improve)
 

The Proctor

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Very cute cyclops is doing spooky October stuff.
 

Svarog

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Yuki singing


Onolumi playing Pathologic


vstats only counts youtube and it always look like that. Half the indie scene is on twitch, even the japanese ones.
The 40% one you remember came from a "collab event" between streamcharts and vstats for q1 and q2 (they have not done q3). Which looks more like 35% indie, 22% holo and 19% niji. This one they count both youtube and twitch stats with twitch data provided by streamcharts.

I think they counts mythic vtubers as indie though and with karubi being poached by CR, the rise of neobaka/aka virtual, Q4 might see the indie scene shrunk a bit to 30% ish.

This one for Q2

Tl;dr a lot of colors = youtube only, only blue = both.
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Is it count both livestreams and prerecorded videos? Because Isegye and Accelers streaming on AfricaTV and Naver. Or it's count all streaming services?
 

WaWa

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Korone, Okayu, Fubuki, Luna and Pekora visited the Nintendo museum.

 

RestlessRain

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Korone, Okayu, Fubuki, Luna and Pekora visited the Nintendo museum.


I thought Nijisanji got preferential treatment from Nintendo until today.
 

frz

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Is it count both livestreams and prerecorded videos? Because Isegye and Accelers streaming on AfricaTV and Naver. Or it's count all streaming services?
why you act like you have never seen numberfaggers before

Vstats uses watch hours which is live-stream only. Watch hours = Average CCV x hours streamed /1 stream then sum it all up pretty much
F.y.i it's AfreecaTV not AfricaTV, it's the difference between nígger and neegger, it aint much but it does the job, you can go one stream charts right now and see what they tracks, but AfreecaTV, Naver, etc. and even Kick are tracked, as long as they are live streams.

Pre-recorded video views is an useless stats nobody uses, because there are alot of shorts merchants out there like a certain Bin Benrose. I found a few of them in here including an entire org of short makers which has 1.5 million accumulated subs (more than starsEN) lolw.

Not everyone agrees with total watched hours btw and prefer CCV, because watch hours tends to favor subathons/react streamers, you can have low CCV but you can just react 10 hours a day/sleep a lot and get on top of these rankings because end of the day the stats is just watch hour x average CCV. But CCV is even harder a metric to use for comparisons lolw.

Video tax:

Polka very late to the party but joined the bling bang meta.
 
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Kalion

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JellyKusa

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Now do Phase :BijouBijou:
Lets see, its the small green bar in the chart
I was more curious which Hololive member = Phase Connect
As far as I can eyeball phase (as a whole) is about the size of a mid-tier HoloJP or a high-tier HoloEN, the individual phase talents are invisible in the chart but if we assume pippa is #1 then she's about the size of a mid-tier ID or the largest homo.
Nenelove is quite close
Using the very scientific method of Overlaying parts of a pie-chart over each other, you can see that Phase as a whole (this is counting JP, you can see the a tiny bar in the green) is worth:
  • As much as La+ :laplusgun:
  • Less than Bijou:BijouBijou: or Ame :amehalloween:(but Ame was boosted during this month so she doesnt count)
  • As much as 1 Fuwamoco + half a Cecilia
  • Almost exactly worth 1 HoloID :anyannoyed::kaelalaugh::nuts::smugmoona:
  • A bit less than StarsEN :magnicope::urtearingmeapart: + StarsJP :robertudrink: combined, but more than either of them on their own
  • Still a bit less than NijiEN as well :voxppinyourcoke::educateyourself::thatsracist:

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frz

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Lets see, its the small green bar in the chart


Nenelove is quite close
Using the very scientific method of Overlaying parts of a pie-chart over each other, you can see that Phase as a whole (this is counting JP, you can see the a tiny bar in the green) is worth:
  • As much as La+ :laplusgun:
  • Less than Bijou:BijouBijou: or Ame :amehalloween:(but Ame was boosted during this month so she doesnt count)
  • As much as 1 Fuwamoco + half a Cecilia
  • Almost exactly worth 1 HoloID :anyannoyed::kaelalaugh::nuts::smugmoona:
  • A bit less than StarsEN :magnicope::urtearingmeapart: + StarsJP :robertudrink: combined, but more than either of them on their own
  • Still a bit less than NijiEN as well :voxppinyourcoke::educateyourself::thatsracist:

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Also shilling Kiaras Birthday 3D Live here:


For a more ... scientific approach

You can get hololive watch hours in here:


Phase hit 793,650 in that specific chart (youtube only) which would put them at number 11.

That being said vstats doesn't count twitch so here is some extra numbers
Watch hours on twitch:
PhaseConnectKanekoLumi(Reformed): 97.7k
Tenma: 32.2k
Iori: 769
Pippa: 14.4k

Putting them onto a total of 938,719 watch hours. This catapulted them to a total of... one position higher at #10.
Combined they are very close to beating NijiEN (1,035,377 + 1,248 from twitch). Already beat Holo ID and Holostars.
Funfact: Elira & Enna are banned from twitch.

Note: All stats are september only.
 
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tarkanoltr

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Kanata has a holocollab song with Laplus, Raden, Polka, Mio and Chloe, covering Ado's Show:

 

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RK Music's Meda singing with Omaru accompanying her on piano.

Some music to accompany you this midnight JST.

Tamanoi Nana's Super Mario Bros challenge earlier ended less than two minutes. She will try again tomorrow.

Hoshimeguri's Mochimochi Sakura released a cover of My Dearest earlier.


Yesterday dtto released a cover of Dinner Song before her SF6 custom.

Her team lost to Aruran's team overall, she herself lost the vanguard match to Orisaki Moshu.

Looks like Kamitsubaki's Koko had to cancel her appearance for the second VWP live due to poor health.
 
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Korone, Okayu, Fubuki, Luna and Pekora visited the Nintendo museum.


Uuu, I want to watch this. Usually Holo is good about having EN subs...
...only Indo, Korean, and Spanish?!
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why you act like you have never seen numberfaggers before

Vstats uses watch hours which is live-stream only. Watch hours = Average CCV x hours streamed /1 stream then sum it all up pretty much
F.y.i it's AfreecaTV not AfricaTV, it's the difference between nígger and neegger, it aint much but it does the job, you can go one stream charts right now and see what they tracks, but AfreecaTV, Naver, etc. and even Kick are tracked, as long as they are live streams.

Pre-recorded video views is an useless stats nobody uses, because there are alot of shorts merchants out there like a certain Bin Benrose. I found a few of them in here including an entire org of short makers which has 1.5 million accumulated subs (more than starsEN) lolw.

Not everyone agrees with total watched hours btw and prefer CCV, because watch hours tends to favor subathons/react streamers, you can have low CCV but you can just react 10 hours a day/sleep a lot and get on top of these rankings because end of the day the stats is just watch hour x average CCV. But CCV is even harder a metric to use for comparisons lolw.

Video tax:

Polka very late to the party but joined the bling bang meta.

Yeah watchtime is a pretty bs metric which massively favors twitch, no metric is truly perfect though and a true agency ranking would only be possible by analizing all of the available stats and also intangible things like influence and mindshare.
 

La+ de Central Norte

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Lets see, its the small green bar in the chart


Nenelove is quite close
Using the very scientific method of Overlaying parts of a pie-chart over each other, you can see that Phase as a whole (this is counting JP, you can see the a tiny bar in the green) is worth:
  • As much as La+ :laplusgun:
  • Less than Bijou:BijouBijou: or Ame :amehalloween:(but Ame was boosted during this month so she doesnt count)
  • As much as 1 Fuwamoco + half a Cecilia
  • Almost exactly worth 1 HoloID :anyannoyed::kaelalaugh::nuts::smugmoona:
  • A bit less than StarsEN :magnicope::urtearingmeapart: + StarsJP :robertudrink: combined, but more than either of them on their own
  • Still a bit less than NijiEN as well :voxppinyourcoke::educateyourself::thatsracist:

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Also shilling Kiaras Birthday 3D Live here:



I hope Kiara San and Gozaru have fun:BijouBijou:
 

Euthyphro

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Kanna on with Until Dawn (she's a known screamer, so this is gonna be good):

Proof - a clipper has been making monthly scream compilations of her since debut:

 

Nenélove

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RiverBear

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Korone, Okayu, Fubuki, Luna and Pekora visited the Nintendo museum.


THEY DON'T DESERVE IT!
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NIJI BECAUSE THEY WERE LOYAL TO NINTENDO BY NOT PLAYING PALWORLD
 

frz

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Another Yagoo interview
Some interesting info from people too lazy to read.
- For Dreamhack Melbourne, it was an invitation to perform from Melbourne City.
- 65 talent managers for 88 active talents (rip ame), acknowledges the support for the EN side is inadequate and the US cover office was for better supporting them.
- First mission of the US office is to get more collaborations and sponsorships.
- Talked about getting more normies into the scene but honestly way too optimistic. :ameliaThink:
 
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