"PIPKIN PIPPA! I'M COMING TO KILL YOU! In Phase World? NO! At your house! In real life! I'm going to stalk her, and become obsessed with her! And wear her makeup, and her mold! And use her Live2D as a coat like the ancient foxgirls did!"Kirschey

General Thread v3: The Hexagone

El Rrata

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>ITS THE BLUE DORITO BUFF THEY AREN'T TALENTED AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's be real, MG would never have been able to properly support them to where they could be doing the stuff they do now. I'd be very surprised if they hadn't already been auditioning for holo before they got fired from GGN. They are persistent and hard-working, so I think it was only a matter of time before they made it in, anyway.
 

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I wonder how the guy that dumped them feels right now? :BijouBijou:
judging by the mangagamer catalog, probably still looking for how much low tier hentai their mid 2000s looking ass site (affectionate) can till peddle


In spite of being almost 10 year old, the 2016 version of "Go! Go! Nippon!" is still number 1 in saless
 

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Let's be real, MG would never have been able to properly support them to where they could be doing the stuff they do now. I'd be very surprised if they hadn't already been auditioning for holo before they got fired from GGN. They are persistent and hard-working, so I think it was only a matter of time before they made it in, anyway.
They said that they applied several times, both apart and together, so you're definitely correct.
 

El Rrata

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judging by the mangagamer catalog, probably still looking for how much low tier hentai their mid 2000s looking ass site (affectionate) can till peddle

Lol.
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Feels like a scam, since they didn't voice the game.

They may not regret firing them, but I bet they do regret not making a game with them voicing the characters. Imagine if they had made the 10k subs game with their voices how much that would sell for them now.
 

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Why does it only have 1 review? Is the company actually functional?
 

El Rrata

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Why does it only have 1 review? Is the company actually functional?
More people probably bought it on Steam, if I had to guess.
 

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Why does it only have 1 review? Is the company actually functional?
They switched to steam pretty quick besides the more extreme VNs, they have a pretty ok-ish catalog although it still falls prey to the classic JP VN failure of 90% of them being extreme forms of pornography too extreme for doujins

They do publish the famous Higurashi series and the excellent "The House in Fata Morgana", though, although the translator for the latter turned out to have CP, (edit: i stole an archive from Varis, of all places, finally, that place had some use)
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More people probably bought it on Steam, if I had to guess.
Yeah, I posted that then found the Steam link. Still, not a lot of movement on stuff there.
judging by the mangagamer catalog, probably still looking for how much low tier hentai their mid 2000s looking ass site (affectionate) can till peddle


In spite of being almost 10 year old, the 2016 version of "Go! Go! Nippon!" is still number 1 in saless
The SteamDB chart for GGN is actually pretty wild. It's had a steady stream of regular players for almost a decade.
They switched to steam pretty quick besides the more extreme VNs, they have a pretty ok-ish catalog although it still falls prey to the classic JP VN failure of 90% of them being extreme forms of pornography too extreme for doujins
They do publish the famous Higurashi series and the excellent "The House in Fata Morgana", though, although the translator for the latter turned out to have CP, my only archive is a discord cache screenie i got ages ago, though

Yeah, the move to Steam makes sense. And, yeah, VNs just aren't going to be popular sellers in the West. Other types of Media Projects, sure. VNs just don't fit well here. Porn of a VN, that's a different story.
 

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Looks like Suisei won't be able to participate in the 2024->2025 holo countdown.
 

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Koyori continuing FF9.

Garnet is already short haired and she got an airship so sidequests are now open.

Varium's Amemochi Nina continuing Fire Emblem Blazing Blade at 12PM JST.


How much Hoshiyomis will go for Suisei's air featuring Iroha and Calli.


Long clip of VSpo members having otaku talk. czu0 used to clip Tsuna regularly but was gone for a few months.

Seems it's quite easy to recommend something to Hinano.
Nazuna "(talking about Shinsekai Yori)...also there are boys kissing each other"
Hinano "I'm going to watch it"
There are also parts where they revealed their age somewhat (Tsuna singing the chichi oppai song and talking about knowing the song in elementary song, Mimitaya's favourite character being Kaworu Nagisa).

774inc released ASMR packs from ten of their members. Notable inclusion is Tsukinoki Tirol who returned from hiatus in April but hasn't been active for months. Last known activity was X posts in August about Animal Crossing.

Packs are sold in DLSite Maniax so it's quite hard for buyers outside Japan since Visa/Mastercard/Paypal aren't available. Currently there's a two week campaign until 26 October where if you buy two or more voice packs, you will get a 20% discount. Samples are available for some as well.
Lineup:
Akane Canna. GFE scenario.
Tsukinoki Tirol. Studying with her, yuri scenario.
Kohaku Yuri with two scenarios. One is the continuation of last year's where she made you her dog. This year it's her as your childhood friend (potentially leading to a yandere scenario). If I am to buy these voice packs, hers will be very high on the list.
Hebiyoi Tier with KU100. One yandere track (fits her character).
Seshima Rui. Two scenarios, first one from last year is her as a nurse in an end-of-life care scenario. Second one is her as a gal childhood friend.
Saionji Mary. 5 hours of multiple scenarios.
Kazami Kuku. Menhera girlfriend scenario, this one has earlicking. Also has last year's pack with multiple roleplays using her voice range.
Yunohara Izumi. There's a gunpla assembly track and mahjong hand reading track.
Suzumi Nemo. Imouto/maid RP.
Touri Sei. Exercise with your girlfriend scenario, second half has piano tracks. Previous pack is a caring GF, also has piano tracks.
There are also packs from Kanade Kanon, Ieiri Popo, and Konan Mia.
If you want a preview of what to expect from Mary's, here.
 

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That seems pretty interesting, might have a quick look tomorrow to see what they're like and if they're taking advantage of being on a less restrictive platform (please don't be whores please don't be whores please don't be whores).
Okay, decided to do a bit of watching/research on VDoki. This is hampered by the fact that there's very little info on vtuber wiki (the company doesn't have a page) and here's what you get when you visit the company's website.

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This group is a year old, by the way. Not having a working website a year in does not inspire a great amount of confidence in the company.

The group currently has four members. They started out with Moggi Ijunkit, who left (more detail here by Banana Hammock), but they have managed to pick up a new member at the start of this month. There's a launch trailer on YouTube, and the character reveals of new and current members, is a three-shot compilation of the character's tits bouncing up and down, the character face, and character thighs. Not the greatest first impression and I think it did them a disservice since I didn't really see any whore behaviour for the talents I briefly checked out.

First up, caught AuroraPhoenyx live playing an MMO. It looks like she's the most popular member of the group within the confines of Kick (and seems to be the most popular Kick vtuber at about 7K subs). She was on day 62 of a subathon, and as far as I could tell, had made 2300 subs in that time. Not really sure how much a "sub" is, to be able to work out a dollar value for that two months of work, let alone what sort of cut her company is taking. It better not be much if they can't even get a template website working. Her model was pretty expressive, and it appeared to be a regular MMO gaming stream - no lewdbaiting, no whore website links or the like. Oh, and AuroraPhoenyx's vtuber wiki page is extremely long for someone with 7K subs that's been streaming for three years. I've seen Hololive girls with shorter pages than Aurora's.

Aurora's numbers vary wildly - I started watching when she was half an hour into stream and she was at forty views, and she climbed to over a thousand CCV by hour in, stayed there for a while, and fell down to 200CCV. Her chat appeared to be pretty dead while she was at four-view territory (and appeared roughly the same amount regardless of CCV), but I don't know what chat engagement is like on Kick versus viewer count.

HoneyKub appears to stream on both Twitch and Kick (and does different streams on each) but gets way more views on Twitch. It's good she has a backup platform if Twitch doesn't work out but I'm not sure I'd spend as much time on Kick as she does if I were struggling at two-view territory when she's a mid three-view on Twitch. Not sure how reliable the viewing numbers are on Kick though, and if they refer to total VOD views or something else. Also not sure where she makes more money as a streamer, since Kick is apparently pretty generous with the cut between platform and streamer.

Had a quick glance at the other two girls currently in the group, they're low three-views for their VODs., if you can believe the numbers on Kick.

Lastly, a summary of Kick as a streaming platform from my brief foray:
  • They seem to want vtubers on the platform - Aurora, at least, has received gift subs from Kick staff and the Kick CEO multiple times.
  • There is a vtuber category on Kick, and it's not hard to navigate to with a quick search. When I was writing this post, there were two three-view vtuber streamers and ten two-view vtuber streamers. There were plenty of one-view girls (one, as in the number of viewers, not the amount of CCV digits) and they were pretty easy to find if that's your thing.
  • They don't seem to care much about copyright - I briefly tried out a stream by Honeykub and she's straight up playing music by Kaunaz Dagaz on her loading screen.
  • You can only see VODs if a talent isn't live. I couldn't check out Aurora's other streams since she was live while I was researching this shit.
  • No watching a video from the start if you're late. If you pause a livestream, you don't get to see what you missed when you unpause.
Overall, I don't think I'd use Kick as a streamer unless I wanted to go full whore or full Alex Jones, and even then I'd be seeing if I could rework what sort of content I wanted to do instead to fit within YouTube or Twitch's guidelines. They're both aids in different ways, but Kick seems to have a very small audience to grow from, and even if you worked out that Aurora was doing okay financially with her paid gift sub numbers, it's a pretty big step down to the next most-popular talent there.
 

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Okay, decided to do a bit of watching/research on VDoki. This is hampered by the fact that there's very little info on vtuber wiki (the company doesn't have a page) and here's what you get when you visit the company's website.

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This group is a year old, by the way. Not having a working website a year in does not inspire a great amount of confidence in the company.

The group currently has four members. They started out with Moggi Ijunkit, who left (more detail here by Banana Hammock), but they have managed to pick up a new member at the start of this month. There's a launch trailer on YouTube, and the character reveals of new and current members, is a three-shot compilation of the character's tits bouncing up and down, the character face, and character thighs. Not the greatest first impression and I think it did them a disservice since I didn't really see any whore behaviour for the talents I briefly checked out.

First up, caught AuroraPhoenyx live playing an MMO. It looks like she's the most popular member of the group within the confines of Kick (and seems to be the most popular Kick vtuber at about 7K subs). She was on day 62 of a subathon, and as far as I could tell, had made 2300 subs in that time. Not really sure how much a "sub" is, to be able to work out a dollar value for that two months of work, let alone what sort of cut her company is taking. It better not be much if they can't even get a template website working. Her model was pretty expressive, and it appeared to be a regular MMO gaming stream - no lewdbaiting, no whore website links or the like. Oh, and AuroraPhoenyx's vtuber wiki page is extremely long for someone with 7K subs that's been streaming for three years. I've seen Hololive girls with shorter pages than Aurora's.

Aurora's numbers vary wildly - I started watching when she was half an hour into stream and she was at forty views, and she climbed to over a thousand CCV by hour in, stayed there for a while, and fell down to 200CCV. Her chat appeared to be pretty dead while she was at four-view territory (and appeared roughly the same amount regardless of CCV), but I don't know what chat engagement is like on Kick versus viewer count.

HoneyKub appears to stream on both Twitch and Kick (and does different streams on each) but gets way more views on Twitch. It's good she has a backup platform if Twitch doesn't work out but I'm not sure I'd spend as much time on Kick as she does if I were struggling at two-view territory when she's a mid three-view on Twitch. Not sure how reliable the viewing numbers are on Kick though, and if they refer to total VOD views or something else. Also not sure where she makes more money as a streamer, since Kick is apparently pretty generous with the cut between platform and streamer.

Had a quick glance at the other two girls currently in the group, they're low three-views for their VODs., if you can believe the numbers on Kick.

Lastly, a summary of Kick as a streaming platform from my brief foray:
  • They seem to want vtubers on the platform - Aurora, at least, has received gift subs from Kick staff and the Kick CEO multiple times.
  • There is a vtuber category on Kick, and it's not hard to navigate to with a quick search. When I was writing this post, there were two three-view vtuber streamers and ten two-view vtuber streamers. There were plenty of one-view girls (one, as in the number of viewers, not the amount of CCV digits) and they were pretty easy to find if that's your thing.
  • They don't seem to care much about copyright - I briefly tried out a stream by Honeykub and she's straight up playing music by Kaunaz Dagaz on her loading screen.
  • You can only see VODs if a talent isn't live. I couldn't check out Aurora's other streams since she was live while I was researching this shit.
  • No watching a video from the start if you're late. If you pause a livestream, you don't get to see what you missed when you unpause.
Overall, I don't think I'd use Kick as a streamer unless I wanted to go full whore or full Alex Jones, and even then I'd be seeing if I could rework what sort of content I wanted to do instead to fit within YouTube or Twitch's guidelines. They're both aids in different ways, but Kick seems to have a very small audience to grow from, and even if you worked out that Aurora was doing okay financially with her paid gift sub numbers, it's a pretty big step down to the next most-popular talent there.
SMALL CORPO/INDIE VTUBER BINGO:
WHORE BEHAVIOR: CHECK
SUBATHONS: CHECK
POSSIBLE BOTTING: CHECK
NONEXISTENT CORPO PRESENCE: CHECK
GROOMED BY JANNIES: CHECK
COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT: CHECK
 

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IRyS playing TCG Simulator


Here's an archive of Amiya's unarchived karaoke
【Unarchived Karaoke】Spooky Monster Songs!-azGNJHnlAqs
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Shiina is also doing some karaoke
 
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The Peanut Gallery

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Nenélove

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SMALL CORPO/INDIE VTUBER BINGO:
WHORE BEHAVIOR: CHECK
SUBATHONS: CHECK
POSSIBLE BOTTING: CHECK
NONEXISTENT CORPO PRESENCE: CHECK
GROOMED BY JANNIES: CHECK
COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT: CHECK
Actually made one for you lads to have fun with:
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Does your oshi get Bingo?
 

El Rrata

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Famitsu reported on Bau Baus.


Also, their mama did some art to celebrate!
 

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The middest midtuber this side of the Midwest Midlands is in the latest Hologra EN talking about La Cucaracha.
 

Nenélove

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The middest midtuber this side of the Midwest Midlands is in the latest Hologra EN talking about La Cucaracha.

HOLOLIVE FINALLY PANDERING TO THE RACIST LATINOS??!?!?!? MOVE OVER YUROPOORS, LA GENTE DEMENTE IS NOW THE MOST ATTRACTIVE MARKET TO THE NIP SUITS!
 
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