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General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

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Limkin

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Nijisanji is making a song CCP-style how their company is a wonderful and profitable place to work for, meanwhile agent Reimu is not having it, exposing it as a den of sexual harassment and overall degeneracy
Or - they made her tweet about recording a song to show that there is nothing hard in doing covers in this company, and Selen is just crazy
 

Nenélove

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It just makes me respect Hololive, Phase, and dare I say it, Kurosanji to an extent, more. Taking risks on low 2/3 views and barely having any Ls. And usually picking out of 1000~s of applicants.

Meaning to say I've got no problem with Vshojo's way of doing it, but it just proves to me how lazy they are.

And even with how they recruit new members, I would considering scouting Hololive's biggest money maker and them soft graduating a year later as an L. They saw :rikutazumi:and disregarded all red flags.
Vshojo isn't "lazy" it's just their business model to poach.
So just by observation, as we don't know the exact business model for each company. Which do we think matches the 3 major business idea models. That being first to the market, highest quality in the market, and cheapest in the market.
I think it's this so far.
First: kuzani ai agency (don't know the name)
Highest quality: hololive
Cheapest: nijisanji
Nenelove's Corpo business model analysis:
Hololive
Quality over quantity. Wants you to watch everyone as a part of a centralized brand and has the highest brand recognition of any agency in the market.
Takes select individuals it sees as promising and tries to mold them into idols, mostly concerned over making characters that are larger than life and apart from their irl personas. Sees overseas expansion and income diversification as the biggest priorities.

Nijisanji
Mass appeal. Tries to debut as many vtubers as possible to appeal to multiple demographics, doesn't care as much about people watching every liver, just them picking their favorites and becoming religiously attached to those specific livers. Doesn't care as much about putting up appearances with the audience and their philosophy centers more around having normal everyday streamers rather than special characters that could never exist, they want to be more relatable and normie friendly.
Their home market is the strongest and so they prioritize it. They see finding niches they can exploit as the biggest priority.

Vshojo
Borrowed fame. Younger and lesser than their contemporaries overseas, their philosophy centers around pivoting from the established norm and being seen as a morally superior alternative to their japanese counterparts. Unlike other agencies which started from nothing, it started from an already established group of streamers, thus its fame and notoriety comes not from organic growth but from their monopolization of twitch, their apparent moral superiority, being the biggest anglophone agency and their poaching of already popular talent. They act more as a conventional talent agency like Mythic rather than a normal agency, feeding off of the fame of anyone they bring in while giving those people an easy position with no strings attached. They seem to have no apparent goals except poaching talent.

Smaller Agencies
Phase is imitating Hololive, got lucky by breaking into an untapped market and took the leap by letting the talent be as raunchy and unconventional as they wanted. Slowly becoming a cooler alternative to the bigger agencies but will struggle to catch the general masses unless they dumb down the content. Their biggest priority seems to be rapid growth and stabilization.

Idol is trying to be a more corporate Vshojo, emphasizing their morality over the industry as a whole. Their main strategy is attempting to break out by sheer luck, throwing money at random niches to see what sticks.

Other agencies are just blinded by delusions of grandeur, trying to become the next Holo while disregarding the glaring issues in their frameworks, the only way to get ahead is to target untapped markets.
 

Horo7618

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She may have her life more together than some, but she's still a vtuber.....
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chihirogumi

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Vshojo isn't "lazy" it's just their business model to poach.

Nenelove's Corpo business model analysis:
Hololive
Quality over quantity. Wants you to watch everyone as a part of a centralized brand and has the highest brand recognition of any agency in the market.
Takes select individuals it sees as promising and tries to mold them into idols, mostly concerned over making characters that are larger than life and apart from their irl personas. Sees overseas expansion and income diversification as the biggest priorities.

Nijisanji
Mass appeal. Tries to debut as many vtubers as possible to appeal to multiple demographics, doesn't care as much about people watching every liver, just them picking their favorites and becoming religiously attached to those specific livers. Doesn't care as much about putting up appearances with the audience and their philosophy centers more around having normal everyday streamers rather than special characters that could never exist, they want to be more relatable and normie friendly.
Their home market is the strongest and so they prioritize it. They see finding niches they can exploit as the biggest priority.

Vshojo
Borrowed fame. Younger and lesser than their contemporaries overseas, their philosophy centers around pivoting from the established norm and being seen as a morally superior alternative to their japanese counterparts. Unlike other agencies which started from nothing, it started from an already established group of streamers, thus its fame and notoriety comes not from organic growth but from their monopolization of twitch, their apparent moral superiority, being the biggest anglophone agency and their poaching of already popular talent. They act more as a conventional talent agency like Mythic rather than a normal agency, feeding off of the fame of anyone they bring in while giving those people an easy position with no strings attached. They seem to have no apparent goals except poaching talent.

Smaller Agencies
Phase is imitating Hololive, got lucky by breaking into an untapped market and took the leap by letting the talent be as raunchy and unconventional as they wanted. Slowly becoming a cooler alternative to the bigger agencies but will struggle to catch the general masses unless they dumb down the content. Their biggest priority seems to be rapid growth and stabilization.

Idol is trying to be a more corporate Vshojo, emphasizing their morality over the industry as a whole. Their main strategy is attempting to break out by sheer luck, throwing money at random niches to see what sticks.

Other agencies are just blinded by delusions of grandeur, trying to become the next Holo while disregarding the glaring issues in their frameworks, the only way to get ahead is to target untapped markets.
I'll add to your post since there's one more big Vtuber agency.
VSpo!
Esports niche. Shares Hololive's philosophy of quality over quantity. Talent scouting differs from hololive. Instead of idols, they look for women skilled in esports games (mainly FPS like Apex Legends, Valorant, Overwatch etc.). Clear #3 agency in Japan in terms of market share. Despite being female-only they regularly collab with males since esports is mostly male-dominated, trading unicorns for esports watchers in audience. Will be expanding overseas soon with VSpo! EN. Catering to their niche while expanding seems to be their top priority.
 

Koronesuki

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Vshojo isn't "lazy" it's just their business model to poach.

Nenelove's Corpo business model analysis:
Hololive
Quality over quantity. Wants you to watch everyone as a part of a centralized brand and has the highest brand recognition of any agency in the market.
Takes select individuals it sees as promising and tries to mold them into idols, mostly concerned over making characters that are larger than life and apart from their irl personas. Sees overseas expansion and income diversification as the biggest priorities.

Nijisanji
Mass appeal. Tries to debut as many vtubers as possible to appeal to multiple demographics, doesn't care as much about people watching every liver, just them picking their favorites and becoming religiously attached to those specific livers. Doesn't care as much about putting up appearances with the audience and their philosophy centers more around having normal everyday streamers rather than special characters that could never exist, they want to be more relatable and normie friendly.
Their home market is the strongest and so they prioritize it. They see finding niches they can exploit as the biggest priority.

Vshojo
Borrowed fame. Younger and lesser than their contemporaries overseas, their philosophy centers around pivoting from the established norm and being seen as a morally superior alternative to their japanese counterparts. Unlike other agencies which started from nothing, it started from an already established group of streamers, thus its fame and notoriety comes not from organic growth but from their monopolization of twitch, their apparent moral superiority, being the biggest anglophone agency and their poaching of already popular talent. They act more as a conventional talent agency like Mythic rather than a normal agency, feeding off of the fame of anyone they bring in while giving those people an easy position with no strings attached. They seem to have no apparent goals except poaching talent.

Smaller Agencies
Phase is imitating Hololive, got lucky by breaking into an untapped market and took the leap by letting the talent be as raunchy and unconventional as they wanted. Slowly becoming a cooler alternative to the bigger agencies but will struggle to catch the general masses unless they dumb down the content. Their biggest priority seems to be rapid growth and stabilization.

Idol is trying to be a more corporate Vshojo, emphasizing their morality over the industry as a whole. Their main strategy is attempting to break out by sheer luck, throwing money at random niches to see what sticks.

Other agencies are just blinded by delusions of grandeur, trying to become the next Holo while disregarding the glaring issues in their frameworks, the only way to get ahead is to target untapped markets.
>Vshojo
>morally superior
:ameheh:
 

Awoogers

basic ass man who loves the british funny woman
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rin is live on twitch with *drum rolls* YES! you guessed it right glorious inmate ITS FUCKING PIKMINNNNNNNNN!
 

Aquatic Novellite

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Vshojo isn't "lazy" it's just their business model to poach.

Nenelove's Corpo business model analysis:
Hololive
Quality over quantity. Wants you to watch everyone as a part of a centralized brand and has the highest brand recognition of any agency in the market.
Takes select individuals it sees as promising and tries to mold them into idols, mostly concerned over making characters that are larger than life and apart from their irl personas. Sees overseas expansion and income diversification as the biggest priorities.

Nijisanji
Mass appeal. Tries to debut as many vtubers as possible to appeal to multiple demographics, doesn't care as much about people watching every liver, just them picking their favorites and becoming religiously attached to those specific livers. Doesn't care as much about putting up appearances with the audience and their philosophy centers more around having normal everyday streamers rather than special characters that could never exist, they want to be more relatable and normie friendly.
Their home market is the strongest and so they prioritize it. They see finding niches they can exploit as the biggest priority.

Vshojo
Borrowed fame. Younger and lesser than their contemporaries overseas, their philosophy centers around pivoting from the established norm and being seen as a morally superior alternative to their japanese counterparts. Unlike other agencies which started from nothing, it started from an already established group of streamers, thus its fame and notoriety comes not from organic growth but from their monopolization of twitch, their apparent moral superiority, being the biggest anglophone agency and their poaching of already popular talent. They act more as a conventional talent agency like Mythic rather than a normal agency, feeding off of the fame of anyone they bring in while giving those people an easy position with no strings attached. They seem to have no apparent goals except poaching talent.

Smaller Agencies
Phase is imitating Hololive, got lucky by breaking into an untapped market and took the leap by letting the talent be as raunchy and unconventional as they wanted. Slowly becoming a cooler alternative to the bigger agencies but will struggle to catch the general masses unless they dumb down the content. Their biggest priority seems to be rapid growth and stabilization.

Idol is trying to be a more corporate Vshojo, emphasizing their morality over the industry as a whole. Their main strategy is attempting to break out by sheer luck, throwing money at random niches to see what sticks.

Other agencies are just blinded by delusions of grandeur, trying to become the next Holo while disregarding the glaring issues in their frameworks, the only way to get ahead is to target untapped markets.
WACTOR
Basically Cobra Commander. Or maybe Serpentor.
 

Gaotye (bilibili DD)

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Chloe's art illustrations are so many:shiinawangy:



MIko too:shiinawangy:
 

Awoogers

basic ass man who loves the british funny woman
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FW: long live the king moco-chan
MC: WHÆT
 

SandyCat

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Salado

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La+ de Central Norte

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RestlessRain

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Before I piss off because I need to finish some stuffs:

Current percentage of graduated members per agency.
COVER CORP
Hololive JP
Total members: 44
Graduated members: 5
Percentage:

Hololive ID
Total members: 9
Graduated members: 0
Percentage: 0%

Hololive CH
Total members: 6
Graduated members: 6
Percentage: 100%

Hololive EN
Total members: 16
Graduated members: 1
Percentage: 6.25%

Holostars JP
Total members: 16
Graduated members: 3
Percentage: 18.75%

Holostars EN
Total members: 12
Graduated members: 2
Percentage: 16.67%

Total members: 103
Graduated members: 17
Percentage: 16.50%

Anycolor Inc
Nijisanji JP
Total members: 147
Graduated members: 23
Percentage: 15.64

Nijisanji ID
Total members: 19
Graduated members: 12
Percentage: 63.15%

Nijisanji KR
Total members: 14
Graduated members: 2
Percentage: 14.28

Nijisanji IN
Total members: 3
Graduated members: 3
Percentage: 100%

Nijisanji EN
Total members: 38
Graduated members: 7
Percentage: 18.42%

Total members: 221
Graduated members: 47
Percentage: 21.26% (it's negligible)

VShojo
Total members: 15
Graduated members: 4
Percentage: 26.67%

Phase-Connect
Total members: 28
Graduated members: 1
Percentage: 3.57%

Idol Corp
Total members: 16
Graduated members: 4
Percentage: 25%


See you later fuckers!
If you want to numberfag over this, at least calculate how many people have quit over the last twelve months as a percentage of the entire group.
 

Nenélove

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If you want to numberfag over this, at least calculate how many people have quit over the last twelve months as a percentage of the entire group.
Makes Holo look way too good, it doesn't align with our narrative.
 

Abomination

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Joined:  Apr 1, 2023
Someone said the same thing yesterday, but I went to sleep when Michiru was streaming, and woke up to her still streaming. Eventually, she ended stream, and I thought she was done. Nope. She was close to the 12 hour mark, so she started up a new stream. When asked if she was tired, she said no. Don't think she'll be losing her title of Sweatiest Gamer in Phase anytime soon:


Also, Tenma + Hina collab getting ready to go:

 

Hff201

Pippa Fan, Failed Normalfriend
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 13, 2022
Crossposting this here: kyOresu (Riro Ron) is back.

kyOresu has returned with a new cover of Internet Overdose, which would be pretty on the nose as it is... except she's using new lyrics instead of a direct translation, and they kind of speak for themselves.



She's also planning to redebut as a vtuber.

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Svarog

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Bam playing Xenoblade


Lolime doing Fallout NV side quests


Fatum Ruptor's Persona 3 adventures


Yuu playing Rust on twitch
 

furaibou

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Joined:  Dec 30, 2022
Hey @SandyCat, I was browsing your potential oshi's twitter and came across this:



If that bulge is real then congrats mate, you've found your Kamioshi. If it's not then you've been reverse-trapped.

More like "Kamel-toeshi", amirite?
 

frz

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So just by observation, as we don't know the exact business model for each company. Which do we think matches the 3 major business idea models. That being first to the market, highest quality in the market, and cheapest in the market.
I think it's this so far.
First: kuzani ai agency (don't know the name)
Highest quality: hololive
Cheapest: nijisanji
Idol: Manager x Talent; Phase: Racist?; Nori Pro/Vshojo: Nepotism; Hololive: Somewhat black; VSPo: A bit more black; Nijisanji: Black; Active8: Darker than Black; Wactor: The abyss
COVER CORP
Hololive CH
Someone remind me, was HololiveCN directly under Cover Corp and managed by Cover corp or was it a joint deal where the CN side does everything like VirtuaReal.
Cuz if that's the case you'd have to include VR for Anycolor too.
I'll add to your post since there's one more big Vtuber agency.
VSpo!
Note that VSpo is a coward org that will fold under any drama instead of protecting its talent, I remember they suspended people for using alt account or teabagging. Noone request them to do so. They just do it for fun. The org is "new" enough but their CEO structure is almost as anal as nijisanji English.

Clip tax:

Some girl (and hag) dukes it out to see who's the biggest girlfailure
Apparently Chloe won hands down.
 
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