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Gaotye (bilibili DD)

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The production level of this song is so high, it is a very suitable for the winter love song
 

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Going from a single to couples channel isn't always terrible. This channel that my brother watches (he is weirdly into react content) started out as just the guy, but later his girlfriend/fiancé/wife joined and the channel got renamed. Apparently it made the channel better, having a second person to banter with and help fill time made the reactions better, and it allowed him to rewatch the stuff he all ready reacted to with her.

The big difference is they were a couple before they started youtube and they have the one channel that they share rather than 2. Also from the few videos my brother showed me they seem like an actual functioning couple that puts their relationship above the channel/fame.
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"I'm sad to see you go, but I'm looking forward to seeing more success in the future for Nazuna-chan ( *´ ∞) 🫶.
I will continue to support you a lot! ᐠ( ᐢ ᐢ )ᐟ✨"

"Thank you ☺️8 I'm secretly waiting for your reply to my invitation to collaborate with you in August - ✨️"

What did she mean by this

This doesn't make sense everything I've heard says Henya had been trying to collab with Nazuna for awhile is she just lying or deliberately miscontruing things???
And she did this why in earth would she ghost her?
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And a timeliness of events
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Zinnaha

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To add to this, it's well known that open relationships kill channel growth for more parasocial YouTubers, especially vtubers. For example, look at what happened to The Pink Cat. She's got a million followers and can barely get 2k ccv now and is regularly beaten by vtubers she shit on like Pippa when they're online. Hell, she is so irrelevant nowadays. She is barely brought up anymore and has kind of just been forgotten outside all of the fucked shit she's done in the past.
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It's not so much open relationships kill growth or channels, it's having it exposed or trying to deflect or being shady about it (farming gachikoi) and it blowing up does. No one is dumb enough to think these 18-30+ women are untouched virgins or doesn't have a man dicking them down every night, at least no one should think it's impossible to be the case, it's when it comes to light in a retarded way (Rushia) or thinking they're untouchable if they were to reveal it (Nyanners) does it actually hit them. This is why it's devastating to talents who's sole attitude is "teehee yuri yuri yuri" "WOMEN I LOVE WOMEN" then find out they had a bf. While parasocial shit isn't new, it hit vtubing hard because it's more of a character than an e-thot is. End of day, when it comes to vtubing it is literally their job to entertain you and keep you invested. Everyone knows Wrestling is fake, most people don't care and there's a good chance people told you to shut up and have fun if you're the: "Omg this shit is fake" kid back in the day. Lives aren't that entertaining and full of "content" that these chubbas can go for 1-3+ years and have constant stories or "scenarios" happening to them, you have to just realize a lot of it just BS but you're entertained either way, so having a boyfriend or girlfriend shouldn't change that unless it changes your reasoning for tossing money at them.
Anyone getting butthurt over their favorite streamer or online personality having found some sort of romantic connection to another person should be dragged to the nearest square and publically laughed at.
This. I know the pandemic era fucked with a lot of us but man, you'd think people would remember the first rule:
Streamers/Vtubers do not give a fuck about you on a personal level at the end of the day. Once the stream ends you are nothing to them.
Unironically this is why Elira, as exampled awhile ago, got flack for setting boundaries when people were kind of trying to cross that line or think they're ACTUALLY friends with her. It wasn't anything serious but the fact you even had anyone think it's bad for chubbas to set boundaries says a lot about how easy it is to fall into parasocialism.
Which is why I said even "non" unicorns I don't mean getting angry or upset about it I mean, generally people just don't like being reminded they're alone.
In a way yeah, end of the day you just gotta take things for what they are. You don't watch robin williams films, remember he has a daughter and get assblasted over it cuz that means at some point he fucked, you were more than likely too busy being entertained. Yeah the guy was tortured asf behind the scenes, but even he set the example of just live in the day/moment.
This doesn't make sense everything I've heard says Henya had been trying to collab with Nazuna for awhile is she just lying or deliberately miscontruing things???
It wouldn't make sense for her to lie about it, especially when you know how Rushia is and you know how pikamee is.
 

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Who hurted you so much for you to end up like this?:faunacry:
Colonization, also meddling countries ruining my economy.
To explain better my point after taking my meds, I've meant that LATAM and even some corners of Africa got a lot of unseen talents, and they never get opportunities like V4Mirai because the corpos don't look at them in favorable ways, this info comes from some local streamers that audited to Niji and Idol, with their 300-600 ccv audiences.
One great example that many people might know is Kitanya, south african vtuber that I saw growing up from almost the beginning, and it took quite some years of constantly streaming and a lot of networking for her to earn the spotlight. She is the kind of talent that could fit even Holo, and probably tried before the 100ccv.
Monopoly is always bad but I fear oligarchies more, considering how Japan "runs" their entertainment agencies.

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I think having a relationship come to light can cause issues a lot of the time, especially if the content is GFE or viewed as such. Most of the bigger female fleshtubers seem to lean into it heavily enough where it would cause any of them problems. I can't see it affecting someone like Tenma or Panko nearly as much.

This. I know the pandemic era fucked with a lot of us but man, you'd think people would remember the first rule:
Streamers/Vtubers do not give a fuck about you on a personal level at the end of the day. Once the stream ends you are nothing to them.
Unironically this is why Elira, as exampled awhile ago, got flack for setting boundaries when people were kind of trying to cross that line or think they're ACTUALLY friends with her. It wasn't anything serious but the fact you even had anyone think it's bad for chubbas to set boundaries says a lot about how easy it is to fall into parasocialism.
Debatable in some cases. The spreadsheets are real.
 

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Colonization, also meddling countries ruining my economy.
To explain better my point after taking my meds, I've meant that LATAM and even some corners of Africa got a lot of unseen talents, and they never get opportunities like V4Mirai because the corpos don't look at them in favorable ways, this info comes from some local streamers that audited to Niji and Idol, with their 300-600 ccv audiences.
One great example that many people might know is Kitanya, south african vtuber that I saw growing up from almost the beginning, and it took quite some years of constantly streaming and a lot of networking for her to earn the spotlight. She is the kind of talent that could fit even Holo, and probably tried before the 100ccv.
Monopoly is always bad but I fear oligarchies more, considering how Japan "runs" their entertainment agencies.

Portuguese dork artist Nako is on with more Dark Souls III


Not trying to be a dick, but can't you see why a streamer that has some level of universal/international appeal would be a better choice to invest in, rather than a "local" streamer with an extremely limited appeal. Unless the "local" streamer changed all most everything about them to appeal more globally they aren't gonna have the same return on investment, and if they do change what is the point of them being "local".
 

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Serious response now: if I was a streamer, I wouldn't want to publicize a relationship if I had one.
There are plenty of successful content creators in relationships in the vtuber and weeb adjacent areas, Lilypichu and Michael Reeves, another is MXR and PotasticP (from that cute Melody bagels clip).

I think it's fine as long as you are open and honest about it so their audience isn't full of the self-inserting unicorn types.

 
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Style

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Kson said she never invited Not-Rushia to the Vhoeshow, it is all about coincidence :smugselen:



Google Translation:
Nazuna-chan is still Nazuna-chan, so there is no problem By the way, it's often misunderstood, so I'd like to make it clear that I wasn't the one who invited Nazuna to VSHOJO! really! I don't understand why some people think that way It really just happened to be the timing of each individual decision. I've never invited anyone! ! ! ! ! !If you have a misunderstanding, please don't do it!

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Yeah, sure, cool story bro :smugselen:

Yeah, sure, that's why Kanata had to move to another apartment and stopped mentioning you THE MOMENT Mike debuted in Vshojo right?


"I'm sad to see you go, but I'm looking forward to seeing more success in the future for Nazuna-chan ( *´ ∞) 🫶.
I will continue to support you a lot! ᐠ( ᐢ ᐢ )ᐟ✨"

"Thank you ☺️8 I'm secretly waiting for your reply to my invitation to collaborate with you in August - ✨️"

What did she mean by this


SHE WANTS TO BURN BRIDGES AGAIN? This fucking menhera dumbass I swear to god...
 

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Yeah, sure, that's why Kanata had to move to another apartment and stopped mentioning you THE MOMENT Mike debuted in Vshojo right?


SHE WANTS TO BURN BRIDGES AGAIN? This fucking menhera dumbass I swear to god...
Wait the translations kinda funky. Is she saying that she plans to ask Pika/Henya to collab next August, or is she basically saying she asked for a collab in August that never got responded to?
 
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Awoogers

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There are plenty of successful content creators in relationships in the vtuber and weeb adjacent areas, Lilypichu and Michael Reeves, another is MXR and PotasticP (from that cute Melody bagels clip).

I think it's fine as long as you are open and honest about it so their audience isn't full of the self-inserting unicorn types.


yeah mykull and lily would be a good example but then again theres the thing with albert and lily before them so i wont be so sure even if i like them as a couple
 

Style

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Wait the translations kinda funky. Is she saying that she plans to ask Pika/Henya to collab next August, or is she basically saying she asked for a collab in August that never got responded to?
The latter.
 

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"I'm sad to see you go, but I'm looking forward to seeing more success in the future for Nazuna-chan ( *´ ∞) 🫶.
I will continue to support you a lot! ᐠ( ᐢ ᐢ )ᐟ✨"

"Thank you ☺️8 I'm secretly waiting for your reply to my invitation to collaborate with you in August - ✨️"

What did she mean by this

Oh my God! Did this girl got hit in the head? This is not how you look proffesional, especially you working in a Goddamn VA studio. Miguel is on a path of everyone hating her at this point, Henya has been trying months to contact and you come with this bullshit?!

Edit: Ok, I just learned that it was Nazuna who is trying to contact Henya but got ignored, But I also heard that Henya is also trying to contact Nazuna.
 
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"I'm sad to see you go, but I'm looking forward to seeing more success in the future for Nazuna-chan ( *´ ∞) 🫶.
I will continue to support you a lot! ᐠ( ᐢ ᐢ )ᐟ✨"

"Thank you ☺️8 I'm secretly waiting for your reply to my invitation to collaborate with you in August - ✨️"

What did she mean by this

Love or hate her, you gotta appreciate how Rushineko can never make a quiet exit :whatastory:
 

Zinnaha

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Oh my God! Did this girl got hit in the head? This is not how you look proffesional, especially you working in a Goddamn VA studio. Miguel is on a path of everyone hating her at this point, Henya has been trying months to contact and you come with this bullshit?!
Same chick that pretended to jump off her balcony during a twitcast, btw.
 

Awoogers

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Love or hate her, you gotta appreciate how Rushineko can never make a quiet exit :whatastory:
either its my malicious intent or plain fucking stupidity its always a fucking riot and not the good kind of riot :ironmousekek:
 

LurkerD

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The latter.

Why the fuck would she say this, is she stupid? Don't answer that. Yeah getting ghosted by one of the 2 members of your Corp that you share a language with sucks, but you're just making enemies that don't need to be made.

Kinda does beg the question why did Pika/Henya ghosted her though, doesn't seem like a thing she would do.

:cursedbae:time: Pika/Henya didn't ghost her, the collab request was blocked by management/Kson because Mike/Nazuna was all ready a loose cannon with one foot out the door and no one wanted to encourage her to stay.
 
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