General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

[Limkin]

I guess now the VTA is up and running once again, but they are now more tight-lipped than ever. Probably so that no FUBAR scenario like that one back in July's gonna happen again. Many is still hoping toward the VTA talent to make their debut in NijiJP's next wave and make more money for Riku Tazumi's seemingly endless fleet of naval ships.

With accusations that VTA members were used as unpaid interns to produce video content for Nijisanji the fact that they don't even let them/require to stream is quite concerning. You apply to become a streamer, and your main supposed activity in the future is no longer present in the list of activities. When every single streamer when asked with "how to become a streamer" always tell you to go and fucking stream, even if it's just a couple of your friends watching you. They are going to have a hard time defending from "VTA is just a sweatshop to make clips for popular niji members and with zero money invested"

 

[JellyKusa]

In other news: Towa had her first Sololive Today


I admit that I did not actually watch it yet (busy) but nevertheless I gathered some impressions of how it was.



I heard that she was very cute.

As is tradition for Sololives, she revealed a New 3D Outfit

Spoiler: Screenshots

Also it seems that Suisei was supporting her from the crowd

Spoiler: More Tweets about it from Suisei, Irys RPR and more

Apparently by the end of it, she lost her composure multiple times and was about to cry
Bae, doing the watch-along, also cried in solidarity

Also from what I've heard, the Camera during this live was really good and Cover should use them also for FES next time
Also she had a live band with her

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In more concert news:

Not-Yugo and Shoto will have a 3D concert soon as well


The concert of faggots, for fags by fags I guess

 

[Svarog]

Hatsuri Shinonome lumberjack


New original song from Ci-chan


And stream

 

[Shuba]

Some shots of Towa's new outfit. One of my favorite 3D outfits for sure.





It's a bit hard to find the words but I'm so proud of her. The nervousness in her voice was palpable at the start but she cleaned up quick and put on a spectacular show. Her vocals (especially the growls) were great, the choreography was simple but effective and she kept the crowd pumped up the whole time. I was already tearing up by the time the duet with Tsuna started. Then she had a full breakdown during one of her most emotional songs and the whole dam busted open.

She wears her heart on her sleeve, gets depressed easily and can lose motivation in an instant but man, she's so goddamn strong. The crowd cheering her on and singing for her during her crying was a perfect showing of why these live events are so good. Sanvitalia>Palette>Sakigake couldn't have been a more emotional finale. She went up there, accomplished her dream and I couldn't be happier to call myself a Kenzoku.

Towa-sama love

 

[Faceless Waifu]

I wonder since it's inception, did the public class students (those who streamed in VTA's YT) actually bring good fortunes or not? Afaik in Idios for example, aren't the fast-tracked students perfomed better as livers than the public class students?

Not really much about good fortune. It's mostly used like practical test for the students to do. "Showcase how you handle yourself as a streamer" and other stuff. It's more of building their confidence and ability to do streaming without stage fright and other stuff. At the end of it, it depends on how you see them if their experience in VTA is making them better if compared to those that joined without VTA experience/learning on their own.

With accusations that VTA members were used as unpaid interns to produce video content for Nijisanji the fact that they don't even let them/require to stream is quite concerning. You apply to become a streamer, and your main supposed activity in the future is no longer present in the list of activities. When every single streamer when asked with "how to become a streamer" always tell you to go and fucking stream, even if it's just a couple of your friends watching you. They are going to have a hard time defending from "VTA is just a sweatshop to make clips for popular niji members and with zero money invested"

Honestly I have no clue on what they're plans going to be. Maybe they will try to rotate on odd/random time basis (weekly, biweekly, etc) or the three are really the ones that is still studying and the rest is unknown.

I do noticed that their YT channel playlists (which usually contain VODs of the students doing those streams) is now only the three talent mentioned in the tweets of their stream time, so there is possibility of the "there's only three left remaining" and the rest either passed to be put into niji newest gen/try their hand at vtuber gig elsewhere or failed and disappeared.

Best case now is probably waiting for JP to launch a new debut and see if there's old VTA talents that managed to join the yacht-making industry of Nijisanji or not.

 

[Kyouko]

Not sure if anyone's seen that bizarre CyberIdol audition video starting to pop up on your feeds (@CyberIdol_EN on Twitter/X)
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But I did a little digging and...hm...
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Seems normal?
Ah.... Who's this? On their artist team? Never heard of them... (@misokerosene on Twitter/X)
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Oh....
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.... I'm sure nothing will go wrong here.

The announced CEO looks like a burner account, maybe for safety measures it was decided that way.
- probably deleted all tweets
- probably borrowed account

 

[Svarog]

Nishizawa 5mm streaming Minecraft (with vtube model but her thumbnail baiting as always)


And here's some interesting info on the cost of Kson's upcoming 3rd birthday concert

 

[Zinnaha]

With accusations that VTA members were used as unpaid interns to produce video content for Nijisanji the fact that they don't even let them/require to stream is quite concerning. You apply to become a streamer, and your main supposed activity in the future is no longer present in the list of activities. When every single streamer when asked with "how to become a streamer" always tell you to go and fucking stream, even if it's just a couple of your friends watching you. They are going to have a hard time defending from "VTA is just a sweatshop to make clips for popular niji members and with zero money invested"

I mean, end of the day VTA is literally a "learning" scenario, the entire purpose is to learn how to be a vtuber/Liver and how to produce/do content before officially debuting or going out on an indie career. VTA do (at least, did when I was last interested in it) have streaming times but it wasn't streaming in the way people think, think of it like streaming unlisted or to a specific account shared with others to build your confidence.
I have never heard of the supposed "VTA is just making content for other people" thing though, so that's a new one to me.

Not sure if anyone's seen that bizarre CyberIdol audition video starting to pop up on your feeds (@CyberIdol_EN on Twitter/X)
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But I did a little digging and...hm...
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Seems normal?
Ah.... Who's this? On their artist team? Never heard of them... (@misokerosene on Twitter/X)
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Oh....
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.... I'm sure nothing will go wrong here.

To be fair though, a lot of talented artists being under 18 isn't an issue, I'm more curious how it'll go if this 'cyberidol' expects their vtubers to coomerbait lol.

 

[Warspite]

Personally find it hard to get excited for a Nina on Twitch/VSJ. First of all, Twitch sucks. Twitch culture sucks. Secondly, the girls which left VSJ all have similar elements to their stories. If you fall out of the clique or maybe don't gel with certain members you get ignored and treated like shit. See: Silvervale and Mouse not talking for months on end, and Silvervale questioning if anyone in that corpo is actually "friends" or it's just when it's convenient.

Idk, wishing her the best. But hard to feel positive about it.

 

[Seth]

I think i am being harassed. Please help i hate jews.

 

[Watamate]

Some shots of Towa's new outfit. One of my favorite 3D outfits for sure.
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It's a bit hard to find the words but I'm so proud of her. The nervousness in her voice was palpable at the start but she cleaned up quick and put on a spectacular show. Her vocals (especially the growls) were great, the choreography was simple but effective and she kept the crowd pumped up the whole time. I was already tearing up by the time the duet with Tsuna started. Then she had a full breakdown during one of her most emotional songs and the whole dam busted open.

She wears her heart on her sleeve, gets depressed easily and can lose motivation in an instant but man, she's so goddamn strong. The crowd cheering her on and singing for her during her crying was a perfect showing of why these live events are so good. Sanvitalia>Palette>Sakigake couldn't have been a more emotional finale. She went up there, accomplished her dream and I couldn't be happier to call myself a Kenzoku.

Towa-sama love
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She's the second with a live band during their solo live as well. I think the only other one to have one was Suisei during her second Live. Okayu had some dancers but that was about it. I'm sure it's mainly monetary reasons since I feel like Solo Lives are something that the talents predominantly pay for? But I'm pulling that out of my ass, so I might very well be wrong. But it adds a lot to the show and authenticity.

Having said that though, it's incredibly hard for anyone to argue whether this one was actually live or not. Her interactions with the crowd was amazing and incredibly genuine. Along with her emotional moments throughout. It's a shame Bae's watchalong was like 20 seconds behind but just gives me more reasons to give it a few more watches.

 

[Ensok]

This was pretty entertaining.

 

[Limkin]

I have never heard of the supposed "VTA is just making content for other people" thing though, so that's a new one to me.

Nothing with concrete evidence afaik, just people who were part of the program complaining to friends how they are forced to edit the clips for NijiJP members instead of doing anything useful, fans noticing a significant increase in amount of clips on official channel but no one being credited for them, and tying this two things together. Then someone snitched on them, the news spread out and it was all bundled together with doxxing multiple members

 

[Kyouko]

She has the brain of a bird, I love her

 

[stassy]

She's the second with a live band during their solo live as well. I think the only other one to have one was Suisei during her second Live. Okayu had some dancers but that was about it. I'm sure it's mainly monetary reasons since I feel like Solo Lives are something that the talents predominantly pay for? But I'm pulling that out of my ass, so I might very well be wrong. But it adds a lot to the show and authenticity.

Sora did have a team though it was guitar and keyboard only

Spoiler

Not-Azki also had a full team but that doesn't count probably

Also not mentioned by those who posted the Ame return stream, she was really burned out after several technical issues and being noped by management, thank god for ifunny to bring her back

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

Fucking hell, I am thoroughly impressed. I'll need to remind myself to never piss off the both of you unless I want to unalive my social media presence.

I stopped short of active social engineering some points of contact along the way, people that seem to be distinct individuals who have interaction with the MikoDxyo doppelganger at some point or another so I could try to glean information and/or define more connections. There's also some stuff I didn't get around to.

• I got a weird amount of thai language results on some far scrolls of username connections.
• The MikoDayoooo youtube account is ~6 years old and has probably namechanged at some point, probably from AstreRxse.
• In the AsrteRxse memorial video, some of the connected accounts lead to very ESL or underaged people, a lot of whom seem to have some knowledge of who Astre is in some personal way, so some kind of social group. Assuming similar age ranges, they may be pretty young but possibly still a legal adult. Many of the commenters noting she "prefers male pronouns".
• She also was Beatrice Sinclair, another vtuber identity that never seemed to really have manifested, or at least had most traces of scrubbed. There is one piece of group fanart she was in that was made for another member of the group she was in ( reddit ) . She has an unlisted vtuber introduction video on the MikoDayoooo channel here for that character.

• Despite genderspecial idiocy above at least sounds biologically female (but for how long before she transitions from biological female to biological waste?)
• The posted date of the video is after the date she announced departure from the group on the still active twitter. ( https://twitter.com/BeatriceSinCH ) which seems more or less inactive but still maintains the "artist" grift part. I think at some point somewhere else I saw her trying to sell this model or something similar, getting called out for trying to do so, acting like she owned it for paying extra for 'commercial rights' (lmao) and the original post is deleted to begin with.
• Also notable that she was apparently part of some previous group (VT Live) prior to Project Enigma(?) (which is when she tried to suicide), I can't keep track of which identity or model was supposed to be used by that point, if it was a "join with your own ID" sort of thing or what but I also didn't look too close. I think the original post 'calling out' TardaTod had the name she was going to debut as but it's lost near I can tell.
• There is a second Beatrice Sinclair account that isn't MikoDayoooo, it has one short uploaded.

• Now I'm not familiar with the original song, but this sounds AI generated to me. This kind of coincides with the hypothesis I had that this CyberIdol "company" with it's specific ask for clips of singing and voice work, along with the fact that misokerosene as an artist attached to the company is "working" on some kind of animated video that had a lot of the same requests for voice samples posted publicly on his(?) timeline along with some confirmations of some people lending their talents to the project (which I never researched out), are all working towards the end of harvesting voices to use for sampling to generate AI voice to complete this animation without having to actually credit or pay anyone for their effort.

I could probably really go further if I was so inclined because I'm sure I could find links that lead to a real person if I really press on it, but I'm not going to go that far unless I'm earning money to do it, and if I did I wouldn't post it publicly because she'd almost certainly kill herself if she got hard doxxed if there was any merit to her claims of suicide in recent history. Where I was willing to give some benefit of the doubt in the past and give a little bit of wiggle room, given all that's come out of this little digging session I'm just going to hold fast on my stance of never giving suicide-pity-baiting a micrometer without pictures of the wound or an obituary, because all evidence points to this madlass being a maximum power griftlord who faked their death to presumably a group of friends in the last 2 years.

No mercy for the fraudsters and the deceivers, punishment is swift and autistic. Buy Starfield.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

We discussed them earlier today, with convo starting here. Definitely some fishy things with them. You found something we hadn't noticed yet, though.

Not sure if anyone's seen that bizarre CyberIdol audition video starting to pop up on your feeds (@CyberIdol_EN on Twitter/X)
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But I did a little digging and...hm...
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Seems normal?
Ah.... Who's this? On their artist team? Never heard of them... (@misokerosene on Twitter/X)
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Oh....
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.... I'm sure nothing will go wrong here.

This is pretty much thread worthy at this point give me front row seats to the EXPLOSION

Edit literally more sit comes out as i post this right above. ThreadThreadThreadThread.

 

[Johnny Jambalaya]

Personally find it hard to get excited for a Nina on Twitch/VSJ. First of all, Twitch sucks. Twitch culture sucks. Secondly, the girls which left VSJ all have similar elements to their stories. If you fall out of the clique or maybe don't gel with certain members you get ignored and treated like shit. See: Silvervale and Mouse not talking for months on end, and Silvervale questioning if anyone in that corpo is actually "friends" or it's just when it's convenient.

Idk, wishing her the best. But hard to feel positive about it.

I don’t know why people get so worked up about members of companies not being best friends with each other. This isn’t specific to VShojo either. They are coworkers. Even though vtubing and streaming in general is different from most jobs that doesn’t change the fact that it is exactly that - a job. Reminds me about people dooming about how Gura and Ame must HATE each other when x happens. I know it is mostly shitposting but it happens enough that on some level enough people believe it.

Obviously, people should not be treated differently for who they are friends with at work. This was just a general statement.

 

[Watamate]

Also not mentioned by those who posted the Ame return stream, she was really burned out after several technical issues and being noped by management, thank god for ifunny to bring her back

TMD - Total Management Death. By far the weakest link in Hololive.

On a brighter note, have you had your emotional sob yet today?

And her amazing ANEMONE performance.

 

[Zinnaha]

Personally find it hard to get excited for a Nina on Twitch/VSJ. First of all, Twitch sucks. Twitch culture sucks. Secondly, the girls which left VSJ all have similar elements to their stories. If you fall out of the clique or maybe don't gel with certain members you get ignored and treated like shit. See: Silvervale and Mouse not talking for months on end, and Silvervale questioning if anyone in that corpo is actually "friends" or it's just when it's convenient.

Idk, wishing her the best. But hard to feel positive about it.

I mean tbf Twitch is Nina's home lol.

I don’t know why people get so worked up about members of companies not being best friends with each other. This isn’t specific to VShojo either. They are coworkers.

It's honestly a western mindset lol, because a lot of JP people only do it when the talents themselves displays that kind of relationship, but in the west people try to force it since I guarantee most people don't even like each other and are, you know, putting on their professional faces.