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In defense of Shondo; she is a literal diagnosed schizophrenic whose brain is slowly devolving into insanity despite the best efforts of medical science. It's easy to say "oh she deserved it, she could just NOT drink and say she wants to kill herself" but the fact of the matter is that her mental agency is dying in much the same way as a dementia patient. With every day that goes by, she's going to be a little less capable of self-control, a little more paranoid, and a little more implusive, until the person she used to be has been warped into a babbling mess with no hope of recovery. It is one of the most horrifying fates anyone on God's green earth can suffer; even the sanest person would be tempted to drink and have suicidal thoughts, and Shondo is only becoming less sane as time passes. That's why Twitch's corporate nonsense is so stomach turning in this case and why people feel bad for her. This isn't some titty streamer trying to game the system and monetize her body, this is a person trying to cope with their own brain betraying them, who may not even be able to fully control her own actions anymore. If nothing else, she deserves a little sympathy IMO.
Nah, like @Bob from accounting said, try and get drunk at your job and talk about self harm. You'll get most likely fired. At best a doctor will give you a mental health leave or whatever you call it in english. She doesnt get to complain about "nuh twitch is playing with my career" when she doesnt or cant take it seriously in the first place.

I do feel bad for her being schizophrenic but imo its not an excuse to do whatever she want without consequences.
 

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Does anyone even have an archive of the offending stream?
I know shondo is geniuenly schizophrenic among other things but imo without the actual context its hard to really know if she went over some line or not
 

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In defense of Shondo; she is a literal diagnosed schizophrenic whose brain is slowly devolving into insanity despite the best efforts of medical science. It's easy to say "oh she deserved it, she could just NOT drink and say she wants to kill herself" but the fact of the matter is that her mental agency is dying in much the same way as a dementia patient. With every day that goes by, she's going to be a little less capable of self-control, a little more paranoid, and a little more implusive, until the person she used to be has been warped into a babbling mess with no hope of recovery. It is one of the most horrifying fates anyone on God's green earth can suffer; even the sanest person would be tempted to drink and have suicidal thoughts, and Shondo is only becoming less sane as time passes. That's why Twitch's corporate nonsense is so stomach turning in this case and why people feel bad for her. This isn't some titty streamer trying to game the system and monetize her body, this is a person trying to cope with their own brain betraying them, who may not even be able to fully control her own actions anymore. If nothing else, she deserves a little sympathy IMO.
If she's not able to reason for herself then she should be under supervision or in some program for schizos, not streaming on twitch getting drunk and having suicidal impulses while her audience of people who watch her specifically for her mental illness (aka profiting off of it) egg her on.

My opinion may come across as cold but remember that I'm a filthy law fag and in law you're either mentally incapable of reasoning for yourself and shouldn't be left alone or you're sane enough to be accountable for your own decisions.
 
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The Shondo VOD uploaded earlier here seems to be nuked. Did Shondo actually say she wanted to kill herself or anything to that effect?
 

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If she's not able to reason for herself then she should be under supervision or in some program for schizos, not streaming on twitch getting drunk and having suicidal impulses while her audience of people who watch her specifically for her mental illness (aka profiting off of it) egg her on.

My opinion may come across as cold but remember that I'm a filthy law fag and in law you're either mentally incapable of reasoning for yourself and shouldn't be left alone or you're sane enough to be accountable for you own decisions.
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Nah, like @Bob from accounting said, try and get drunk at your job and talk about self harm. You'll get most likely fired. At best a doctor will give you a mental health leave or whatever you call it in english. She doesnt get to complain about "nuh twitch is playing with my career" when she doesnt or cant take it seriously in the first place.

I do feel bad for her being schizophrenic but imo its not an excuse to do whatever she want without consequences.
It's "can't."

As in, her brain is turning to goo so she does not have the ability to accomplish it on a daily basis. Streaming is about the only "career" remaining, because as you said, you get fired from normal jobs when you are literally losing your mind.

The time is coming where she'll be out on the streets in a box somewhere without being able to support herself. I do not fault the crazy woman for trying to be self-sufficient until then. And the absolute stone-cold FACT of the matter is, her drinking and saying she feels like killing herself on stream did not encourage anyone else to commit self-harm, and was financially beneficial for both herself and Twitch. There are times when rules should be bent, because they do not capture every possible edge case reality can throw at them. This was one of them, and I don't feel like it's some absurd claim to say that she's been wronged or to feel bad for her.

If she's not able to reason for herself then she should be under supervision or in some program for schizos, not streaming on twitch getting drunk and having suicidal impulses while her audience of people who watch her specifically for her mental illness (aka profiting off of it) egg her on.
In a perfect world she probably would be. Nobody cares about crazy people until they kill someone, however. You'll notice I never said "oh she'll end up in an asylum at some point" because most schizophrenics become homeless vagrants eventually. That's life. No one wants to pay for her supervision, no one wants to pay for her program, but they will throw pennies at the crazy woman for a laugh. I do not begrudge her trying to get pennies while she can.
 

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It's "can't."
And you're a fаggot.

And the absolute stone-cold FACT of the matter is, her drinking and saying she feels like killing herself on stream did not encourage anyone else to commit self-harm, and was financially beneficial for both herself and Twitch.
Is that really your argument? She's making money so its fine just close your eyes? Fucking lmao.
 

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It's "can't."

As in, her brain is turning to goo so she does not have the ability to accomplish it on a daily basis. Streaming is about the only "career" remaining, because as you said, you get fired from normal jobs when you are literally losing your mind.

The time is coming where she'll be out on the streets in a box somewhere without being able to support herself. I do not fault the crazy woman for trying to be self-sufficient until then. And the absolute stone-cold FACT of the matter is, her drinking and saying she feels like killing herself on stream did not encourage anyone else to commit self-harm, and was financially beneficial for both herself and Twitch. There are times when rules should be bent, because they do not capture every possible edge case reality can throw at them. This was one of them, and I don't feel like it's some absurd claim to say that she's been wronged or to feel bad for her.


In a perfect world she probably would be. Nobody cares about crazy people until they kill someone, however. You'll notice I never said "oh she'll end up in an asylum at some point" because most schizophrenics become homeless vagrants eventually. That's life. No one wants to pay for her supervision, no one wants to pay for her program, but they will throw pennies at the crazy woman for a laugh. I do not begrudge her trying to get pennies while she can.
What illness does she actually have btw, I have seen geriatrics with degenerative mental conditions but rarely young people and my interest has been piqued.
 

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What illness does she actually have btw, I have seen geriatrics with degenerative mental conditions but rarely young people and my interest has been piqued.
schizoaffective disorder, schizophrenia + bipolar. This isn't a Mikeneko situation where Mikeneko willingly allows her worst impulses, Shondo has absolutely no capacity of controlling herself.

Also her dad is dead, IIRC her mom has cancer and is dying or has died, and I don't remember anything about siblings. She has no immediate family to look after her.

She lives in the UK, not exactly the bastion of helping people with health issues. NHS sucks and would care more about Raheed who came over in the boat than Shondo.

Unironically her best fate would be streaming from a padded cell.
 

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And you're a fаggot.


Is that really your argument? She's making money so its fine just close your eyes? Fucking lmao.
My "argument" is that people are real quick to jump on someone for a victimless crime, when we also go around telling people to kill themselves on a daily basis. By the way, :tenmakys:
What illness does she actually have btw, I have seen geriatrics with degenerative mental conditions but rarely young people and my interest has been piqued.
Bipolar Schizoaffective. Schizoaffective disorders usually change with age and get better for people: she has the very unfortunate opposite problem where it is getting worse with age, and her medications are growing less effective at treating it. A dedicated fan would know more, though.
 

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I agree you shouldn't go around talking about killing yourself on stream, but Twitch's "please keep yourself safe! Good luck affording a therapist without your job!" routine feels so disingenuous.

schizoaffective disorder, schizophrenia + bipolar. This isn't a Mikeneko situation where Mikeneko willingly allows her worst impulses, Shondo has absolutely no capacity of controlling herself.

Also her dad is dead, IIRC her mom has cancer and is dying or has died, and I don't remember anything about siblings. She has no immediate family to look after her.

She lives in the UK, not exactly the bastion of helping people with health issues. NHS sucks and would care more about Raheed who came over in the boat than Shondo.

Unironically her best fate would be streaming from a padded cell.
I don't watch her, but that's incredibly sad.
 

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