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General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

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bunniedoll

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It's kinda smart tbh, talents can semi-retire in Hololive instead of graduating and going to a permanent retirement home like vshojo. Cover can continue to sell their merch and the girls can come back when they're low on $$ or feel "mentally healthy" enough to stream for a while. New gens can still debut, the NA time zones won't be over crowded and no negative graduation pr to disturb the fans.
Do they usually make more from merch than streams/donos?
 

Nenélove

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Do they usually make more from merch than streams/donos?
Their recent financial report literally showed just that, lemme find the slide...
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Found it. Merch has been their biggest revenue source since as far back as 2022, now it's just supercharged and doubled in size.
 

Nigel Nigerman

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Do they usually make more from merch than streams/donos?
Yes but with them not streaming there won't be any merch to sell. What separates Holo from Niji is that 1) Their merch cut for the talent is very good 2) The talent has a say to what merch they'll do 3) Why the talent is super busy behind the scenes is because they are the ones who comissions the merch especially if it isn't basic acrylic or sticker stuff. Holo right now gets most of its money from merch and sponsorships as the Holo talents are IPs of the company, not just streamers that work under them. Remember that YAGOO worked in Sanrio and you know how Sanrio is with their IPs (Hello Kitty, My Melody, etc.).

TLDR: Merch moves because the vtuber streams. Gura is UBER POPULAR but she worked hard for her to reach this point in her life where she just shill merch and her fans will lap it up. It just shows how great Cover's marketing is.
 

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Yes but with them not streaming there won't be any merch to sell. What separates Holo from Niji is that 1) Their merch cut for the talent is very good 2) The talent has a say to what merch they'll do 3) Why the talent is super busy behind the scenes is because they are the ones who comissions the merch especially if it isn't basic acrylic or sticker stuff. Holo right now gets most of its money from merch and sponsorships as the Holo talents are IPs of the company, not just streamers that work under them. Remember that YAGOO worked in Sanrio and you know how Sanrio is with their IPs (Hello Kitty, My Melody, etc.).

TLDR: Merch moves because the vtuber streams. Gura is UBER POPULAR but she worked hard for her to reach this point in her life where she just shill merch and her fans will lap it up. It just shows how great Cover's marketing is.
This. I've been seeing a lot of dooming about "OH NOW THAT THEY MAKE ALL OF THE MONEY FROM MERCH THEY WON'T EVER STREAM", do people not realize that for there to be merch demand there has to be an appealing IP behind it? People like Gura can get away with it because Holo has always been a closed off ecosystem that encourages supporting the whole lot (one of their age-old differences with Niji which was always "pick who you like") and she's also super popular and recognizable anyway.

If all of Holo stopped streaming then they would not be able to just sell merch of dead characters. If anything this growth in merch revenue represents good IP building practices and a loyal fanbase.
 

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Do they? Where did you get that amount from?

We knew Cover paid SOME talents a very minimal salary back in the day, we don't know if this has changed.
We don't know that, either. It's all based on clips where the translator used the word "Salary", but context is invariably the talent's income, not a separate salary.

The only corp we know used to pay a separate salary is Phase Connect, and they stopped doing that.
It's not separate item, it's lowest guaranteed monthly payment.
Show us where it says so in whatever public information Cover provides on the matter, then.
 
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bunniedoll

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This. I've been seeing a lot of dooming about "OH NOW THAT THEY MAKE ALL OF THE MONEY FROM MERCH THEY WON'T EVER STREAM", do people not realize that for there to be merch demand there has to be an appealing IP behind it? People like Gura can get away with it because Holo has always been a closed off ecosystem that encourages supporting the whole lot (one of their age-old differences with Niji which was always "pick who you like") and she's also super popular and recognizable anyway.

If all of Holo stopped streaming then they would not be able to just sell merch of dead characters. If anything this growth in merch revenue represents good IP building practices and a loyal fanbase.
Agreed
If people don't like the streamers there's no one to sell merch to. They can't just disappear and think people will stay interested
 

MerelyTourist

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Gura is PewDiePie of EN vtubers. Worked hard and now can live comfortably off passive income.
We don't know that, either. It's all based on clips where the translator used the word "Salary", but context is invariably the talent's income, not a separate salary.
It's not separate item, it's lowest guaranteed monthly payment.
And lookings at recent activity, Cover is trying to insist on "independent contractor" status, especially with opening US office. I suspect they are actively striking "can't stream as another vtuber" out of contracts.
 
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Aruran got his current twink model almost 4 years after debut. Fubuki got a new base model that killed all her old outfits. Flare also got a hers after 2 years and at least one outfit.

I very much don't think she hates her model at all, including the tits.
I see all of this gayposting as just another woman moment. She is so lucky she got into Holo because she can afford to bitch like a lite Futakuchi Mana and get away with it. I don't think she'll graduate or get bonked either because these are non-issues to Cover bottom line, she needs to say something atrocious like "support trans children" to get a slap from management.
Truly a woman of all time: complain about stuff, ignore the solution and won't be held accountable for lashing out on their own illogical garden.
So, how's that different to any other woman ever?
The ones I like are at least entertaining about it, everytime Kronii bitches I ask myself why didn't she troon out yet if she's so against being perceived as one.
 
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I'm sick of a joke.
I tell people I'm sick of a joke.
People who care about me will stop making the joke.
People who don't care about me will keep making the joke,
But I can freely ignore them because they don't care about me.

"WooOoOoOAAAaAaAhH woman moment!!1111"
I think some of you are extremely retarded and overblowing this.
 

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Everyone: Hexa, please try not to dox yourself.
Hexa: Let me tell you about my favourite restaurant in Boston, and this small private carpark is the one I'd recommend you'd pick if you wanted to get to that restaurant, I'll give you its address if you need it.
 

MerelyTourist

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Everyone: Hexa, please try not to dox yourself.
Hexa: Let me tell you about my favourite restaurant in Boston, and this small private carpark is the one I'd recommend you'd pick if you wanted to get to that restaurant, I'll give you its address if you need it.
inb4: it's restaurant where Megu works now
 

shipmate_F

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I'm sick of a joke.
I tell people I'm sick of a joke.
People who care about me will stop making the joke.
People who don't care about me will keep making the joke,
But I can freely ignore them because they don't care about me.

"WooOoOoOAAAaAaAhH woman moment!!1111"
I think some of you are extremely retarded and overblowing this.
It's not about the joke you illiterate monkey, this is a behavior she repeats every fucking time something works far from what she thinks it should, that bitch definitely got some control issues and isn't short of guilt tripping people into acting the way she thinks they should.
For someone so progressive she's definitely the most childlike of them all, throwing tantrums because of :unauthorizedmemes: .
And if you've been here long enough, you know that demanding something from the internet will have the complete opposite effect.
 

frz

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Do they usually make more from merch than streams/donos?
This applies every big streamer. Not just holo
You can just google there are like hundred of videos on "how much money twitch streamers make" and dono is about 1%-3% for everyone. Peeps like pokimane/disguised toast/suisei turned them off because it's more annoying than worth.
You do need to stream to keep the audience interested to buy merch though, unless you are suisei who can keep release hit song and whatever the fuck magic gura is doing.
Do they? Where did you get that amount from?

We knew Cover paid SOME talents a very minimal salary back in the day, we don't know if this has changed.
Rule of thumbs when talking to merelytourist is don't take anything he said seriously. He's speaking out of his ass 95% of the time
Unfortunately I must admit the 5% exists

The most we see holomem talked about their salary is during debut month where they all say they have no money until the monetization stream. So it probs still remains "not much" at least they should be compensated minimum wage
That being said they also might have been spurging on streaming equipments like mic, audio shit when they know they are accepted into holo and can afford them now. If you ask me I'd say low to eh. Unless there is a progression system where you earn more the longer you stayed.
 

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Everyone: Hexa, please try not to dox yourself.
Hexa: Let me tell you about my favourite restaurant in Boston, and this small private carpark is the one I'd recommend you'd pick if you wanted to get to that restaurant, I'll give you its address if you need it.

It wasn't enough to dox herself, Hexa has also just doxxed Naganon too:



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superduper

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She's being coddled in the replies but the QRTs are ripping her apart. One in particular has an old clip from our favorite racist Racoon telling someone to rope that Panko replied to.

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Update: The guy that posted the tweet Panko replied to deleted his post. Coward!

Also:
Check out Romania-Chan! She's got some moves!

Archive
 
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Juni gets radicalized by seeing what a shithole franciistan is
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Lain Paterson trying to complete Volume F of Blue Archive (if she's leveled up enough, might be in for a nasty surprise).

She did spill her tears for Alice in chapter 3 and will definitely be emotional again this time.

Vesperbell's Kasuka and Riot Music's Matsunaga Iori releasing a cover song.


Re:AcT's Usuwa Suu continuing Persona 3 remake playthrough after a month at 8PM JST.

She decided to pause the playthrough before her solo live to take care of her vocal cords. Now the live is over but she's a bit under the weather and even coughed at times during yesterday's karaoke stream.

774inc's Shishio Chris talking about the desperate times and desperate measures to get money.


Suisei fixing Marine's menhera moment.
 

MerelyTourist

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