Not surprising, once you step outside the Twitter and 4chan space life continues like normal lol.
If you hadn't notice by now, they always step into these type of games eventually.
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Not surprising, once you step outside the Twitter and 4chan space life continues like normal lol.
Very bold of you to assume he knows hololive or nijisanji AFTER this.Grummz. As someone who spammed refund requests at Steam when the PSN shit happened with Helldivers 2Fucking hate these secondaries and grifters coming into the hobby. I bet you he couldn't tell you what a Hololive or a Nijisanji was prior to this.
She HATES KirscheIts not livestreamed but she will restream the hour on her channel later
Blacklisting Kirsche is one thing, but having this honeypot anything nearby tells a lot. Not that I am surprised, but dayum.
Not to antagonize you, but you're being kind of a gaping cunt with that wording. I don't think you're wrong with your logic, but that's an afterfact line of thought and not the foundation of the issue at hand.My fat, retarded, whore chuuba got kicked out by the mean people at the faggy con for being a pandering politifag.
May I remind you that vtubing was something for outcasts for most part, and this happened:
The land of freedom (for those that think exactly like me) amirite gamers? KKona
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I don't want anime girls on the internet talking about politics, regardless of their justifications for why it's ok. Which side exactly they take is also irrelevant. If she didn't think this was likely to happen at one convention or another - that's a her problem. Comes with the territory of the content she wants to make. She isn't being banned on her platform, she is free to express her opinion, and they are free not to want her there
It is pretty simple. I don't want any politics-pandering pissants in my hobby, left or right. I don't care who people think is right or wrong, they all invite grifters and will end up ruining the hobby, no matter where they come from.Not to antagonize you, but you're being kind of a gaping cunt with that wording. I don't think you're wrong with your logic, but that's an afterfact line of thought and not the foundation of the issue at hand.
May I remind you that vtubing was something for outcasts for most part, and this happened:
The land of freedom (for those that think exactly like me) amirite gamers? KKona
If Gamergate taught me anything, it is that it is all people shouting pointlessly into the void, anyway.
There's always people who think "No Politics" signs actually secretly means "No politics but mine" like they're some special exception. Right wingers are especially bad for this given how often they use it amongst themselves as code for "no left wing politics" and come to think everywhere else is the same.Not to antagonize you, but you're being kind of a gaping cunt with that wording. I don't think you're wrong with your logic, but that's an afterfact line of thought and not the foundation of the issue at hand.
May I remind you that vtubing was something for outcasts for most part, and this happened:
The land of freedom (for those that think exactly like me) amirite gamers? KKona
It's not that I don't like Kirsche, or even that I'm not sympathetic to her political leanings myself, but coming at it from this angle is weak. She is way past the overton window even on a good day and for a scene that has been defined by shunning politisperging she should expect doors to close for putting it front and centre like she does.
On the topic of Offkai and shunning politisperging, does this year have any lefty politispergs? I know Marina was there last year, but if there aren't any this year, they might be trying to boot both sides instead of just one.
Looked at the guest list and I can't see any names that pop out at me that I recognize as politispergs, although wouldn't be surprised if some of the indies I saw were.
I'm fine with blanket booting out politisperging from shit that wants to focus on entertainment, but we all know how the hammer can come down unevenly in many cases.
"The russian man contracted politisperging, from the words "politics" and "sperging", after 24 hours his brain had completely rotted, with paranoid feelings of impending global doom dominating his frontal cortex. This condition makes you irascible and irrational, there is no known cure"
Honestly Holo should get the fuck out of there before someone declares everyone still in the con enemies of the """Free peoples"""" or some bullshit like that. Keep politics, ALL POLITICS, out of this hobby. This is why I stay in the walled garden, I don't give a shit how much of a "normie" that makes me. We can't ever have anything nice, vtubing should've stayed in Japan.
I have some bad news for everyone:Very bold of you to assume he knows hololive or nijisanji AFTER this.
Maybe not everyone here where Hololive or Vtuber fans during that time:
But Grummz is one of those grifters that used Coco during the Taiwan Drama just to be Anti-China Spergs
Here is one reply to his deleted posts about it
The most fun part is that NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THESE FAGGOTS follows Kson after she decided to leave Hololive
To expound on my previous snarky meme because I feel it's wrong to just dump it and leave;
I have spent twenty years in online communities by now. I was on the internet when I was ten years old, and I'm now nearly 32.
In all that time, I have never once, ever, under any circumstances, ever seen a non-political community. It is a myth, it doesn't exist. It is a fantasy. This is a political community, defined by moral principles that automatically fall into the libertarian and right-of-center political brackets. Trying to ignore that reality is completely and totally delusional.
You don't have to like it, you don't have to engage with it. You can just talk about vtubers, that's fine. I don't ask you to do any more than that. But do not indulge in the absurdist, nonsensical and laughable concept that there is any such thing as a community without principles. I say principles instead of politics because the latter is simply the act of social engineering upon the basis of the former.
Vtubing, tabletop roleplaying, electronic gaming, anime, battletech, warhammer, MMORPGs, gundam, etc... these hobbies are all under active, sustained attack by outside forces seeking to use social engineering to force you to change your opinions and attitudes to better conform to their own desired versions.
The proponents of these versions will chase you relentlessly everywhere you go. Until you stand up to them, they will never stop. They will attack you, your friends, your family, your heroes, your icons, etc. They will re-write history before your eyes, and when you get angry and burnt out and retreat to another medium that you enjoy more, they will come after you and try to re-write that, too.
The fact of the matter is that escapism is dead, because escapism is passive and conservative, and conservatives have never conserved anything.
I am not political. I hate and despise politics. If you have ever voted for any party in your life, you are a fool. They all hate you and want to destroy you, just with varying degrees of intensity and desired speeds of destruction. What I am, however, is principled. My principles tell me to stand up to inveterate, unprincipled liars who want to destroy the mediums I love and will never stop unless they are dragged out, kicking and screaming. To do that I need to tell others about my principles. If that means I piss them off, then they can go find escapism elsewhere, and hide in their holes as earth is shovelled on top of them by the change agents that they deliberately chose to ignore until it was far, far too late.
Every single person I have ever met who has had the 'I just want to game/watch anime/enjoy my cartoons/etc in peace, man' mental outlook has become more jaded, cynical, miserable and delusional over time. Without exception. They do the same thing over and over; pick something they like, try and ignore the invaders and sit there in an ever-shrinking bubble of supposedly 'non-political' buddies until everything they ever loved about the thing has been subverted out from under them. Then they have a breakdown, rant about just wanting to be left alone, and find another hobby. So the change agents merrily traipse after them, delighted that they've found such a willing, submissive beast of burden, who will constantly lead them to greener pastures for them to rape barren and destroy, safe in the knowledge he will never do more than passively whine and cringe into a tighter and tighter ball on the ground.
Then when he's retracted fully, they can just stick the lever under him and pry him off the last sprout of green grass they want to spray pesticide over, before shooing him away to scout out a new hobby for them to destroy.
They will not stop, ever, until you either stand up for your principles, or you kill yourself. Those are the only two options on the table.
Nothing stands unless you defend it.
I have spent twenty years in online communities by now. I was on the internet when I was ten years old, and I'm now nearly 32.
In all that time, I have never once, ever, under any circumstances, ever seen a non-political community. It is a myth, it doesn't exist. It is a fantasy. This is a political community, defined by moral principles that automatically fall into the libertarian and right-of-center political brackets. Trying to ignore that reality is completely and totally delusional.
You don't have to like it, you don't have to engage with it. You can just talk about vtubers, that's fine. I don't ask you to do any more than that. But do not indulge in the absurdist, nonsensical and laughable concept that there is any such thing as a community without principles. I say principles instead of politics because the latter is simply the act of social engineering upon the basis of the former.
Vtubing, tabletop roleplaying, electronic gaming, anime, battletech, warhammer, MMORPGs, gundam, etc... these hobbies are all under active, sustained attack by outside forces seeking to use social engineering to force you to change your opinions and attitudes to better conform to their own desired versions.
The proponents of these versions will chase you relentlessly everywhere you go. Until you stand up to them, they will never stop. They will attack you, your friends, your family, your heroes, your icons, etc. They will re-write history before your eyes, and when you get angry and burnt out and retreat to another medium that you enjoy more, they will come after you and try to re-write that, too.
The fact of the matter is that escapism is dead, because escapism is passive and conservative, and conservatives have never conserved anything.
I am not political. I hate and despise politics. If you have ever voted for any party in your life, you are a fool. They all hate you and want to destroy you, just with varying degrees of intensity and desired speeds of destruction. What I am, however, is principled. My principles tell me to stand up to inveterate, unprincipled liars who want to destroy the mediums I love and will never stop unless they are dragged out, kicking and screaming. To do that I need to tell others about my principles. If that means I piss them off, then they can go find escapism elsewhere, and hide in their holes as earth is shovelled on top of them by the change agents that they deliberately chose to ignore until it was far, far too late.
Every single person I have ever met who has had the 'I just want to game/watch anime/enjoy my cartoons/etc in peace, man' mental outlook has become more jaded, cynical, miserable and delusional over time. Without exception. They do the same thing over and over; pick something they like, try and ignore the invaders and sit there in an ever-shrinking bubble of supposedly 'non-political' buddies until everything they ever loved about the thing has been subverted out from under them. Then they have a breakdown, rant about just wanting to be left alone, and find another hobby. So the change agents merrily traipse after them, delighted that they've found such a willing, submissive beast of burden, who will constantly lead them to greener pastures for them to rape barren and destroy, safe in the knowledge he will never do more than passively whine and cringe into a tighter and tighter ball on the ground.
Then when he's retracted fully, they can just stick the lever under him and pry him off the last sprout of green grass they want to spray pesticide over, before shooing him away to scout out a new hobby for them to destroy.
They will not stop, ever, until you either stand up for your principles, or you kill yourself. Those are the only two options on the table.
Nothing stands unless you defend it.
They clearly don't know anything about her. What she has said puts Kirsche to shame. Not that I think either of them should be banned.
Definitely not for sale but I'll keep in mind for Sunday ID time.
Funny that for some weird-ass reason, ID netizens/shitposters like to make jokes about the fact that Kobo's PL is that of a black man, if not someone from the region of Papua (who is also black, and in Indonesia is often considered as volatile due to the whole 'ID government vs Papua rebels fighting over some shit')
I patiently await a relevant counterfactual that disproves my assertion.
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