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General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

ValkyrieAce

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Joined:  Jan 28, 2023
ITT people mistaking Down's for being Asian
 

Todd's Strongest Howard

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Pakis? Fuck man, I know you snowmexicans have already been colonized by pajeets, not pakis

"South Asian" constitutes something like 7% of reported non-white ethnic population, and an overwhelming majority of those also absolutely despise being called Pakistanadians, which is why I do it. :dokiSmug: The ones that don't get pissed off are the ones that are actually good to talk to.
 
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Azehara

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Ame is apparently moving back in with her family. Or rather, her family is moving in with her. This is... slightly concerning. For those who don't know the lore:
Ame grew up very poor. Her parents were basically never present so she and her older brother were raised by her grandmother and aunt instead. For most of her life this was the norm, until she started streaming and got modest sum of cash to herself. Her grandmother died while she was developing her streaming career - She was planning on becoming an EMT if she wasn't able to go any further... then she got accepted into Hololive.

Fast forward a year or so: Ame has been greatly successful and shared her wealth with her family (mainly by buying Auntie Watson a car). Apparently her mother heard about her throwing her cash around because she decided to "suddenly" come back into her life to beg her for cash. Ame, being too nice for her own good, gave her it.

Based on her saying she's moving today, and the other hints she's dropped during her sparse streaming since around Thanksgiving, we can kind of actually extrapolate what the last few months have been. Ame's family is in dire straits financially - she started paying for their health care. She's basically only doing that because her younger brother is in her mom's care and presumably she cares about him enough to not let him suffer for his mom's awful financial sensibility. I would guess Thanksgiving was the moment her family proposed to her to move in together. She probably spent the last few months working on foreclosing a house for them - she said this stream Studio de Ame is "getting bigger", so I'd guess she'll at least have space to herself.
So tl;dr: Positives are that we might get more big bro/little bro watson stories on stream (maybe debuts?), Auntie Watson closer to home, also bigger studio for more stuff. Major negative is living with her financial leech of a mother. Not too excited but at least glad the situation should probably be over soon so we can get back a semblance of "normal".
She probably has enough money to get a nice house thats big enough to have her own studio and not get interrupted by her family. I hope that's the case atleast given how many times Vtubers live with their parents or with roommates, having people around can fuck up and interrupt the stream and cause other issues.
 

frz

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Joined:  Oct 1, 2023
Is this like the NFL, where teams send coaches, coordinators, and even other players to butter up a high profile player in free agency?

Is Fishman going to send Muumi and Lia her way? What private flight is Idol going to send to pick her up? Is globie going to import food for their buffet?
Tbh the more vtubers post about her the more I think she might quit vtubing. If I want to join holo Id have told kiara/fwmc to stfu about me.
They indicate that one set of grandparents are Swedes, and another set are Canadian. Writing off the Swedes, "Canadian" is still non-indicative when they clarify at least one parent is genealogically Swedish but is "Canadian" due to the location of their birth, on the presumption the Swedish grandparents moved to Canada and had a child. With no further indication of what the ethnic background that went into their "Canadian" grandparents, it's not unthinkable that they could be part asian and is just omitted info. They've pretty much proven themselves with their own tweet that the only consideration that goes into their "proof" is location of birth and that's non-indicative of their ethnicity.

Further, sure they claim "caucasian-canadian" but why ever trust a woman to represent herself accurately on the internet? :smugina: This is like looking at high-angle selfies and thinking "Yeah this bitch fit" when it's the most common angle tubbos use to hide their pig tail.

Am I being unreasonably autistic over literally nothing? It must be a day that ends with y.
Call me racist but you just take 1 look at their face and you know they are white. I have even seen brown (pokimane) and black (sydeon) people who can pull off asian make up better than they do. They just look like aliens wearing asian make up, potentially being the product of generations of caucasian inbreeding.
There may be a ton of people sending in their resumes to Hololive, but a known quality in the realm of vtubing is far more attractive to a company than a potential.
Idol companies far prefer unknown potentials than known quantity veterans as they can enforce bad contracts into the young ones who dont know what they are doing.
Not saying holo does it. But it's why Nijisanji JP made VTA instead of just recruiting big indies. And bad contract is the backbone of the entire idol industry.
Sure small companies would love big vtuber to prop them up. But big companies tends to skip over them for homegrown ones.
Just looking at polka & shiori, they produced completely different content than what they got popular with during their pl. Hololive did not want their old known quantity.
People keep talking about fwmc and nerissa being "big" but also failed to remember they got rejected 4-5 times, while the small bijou took 2 tries, with the first try before she even started streaming.
 
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Kazuma

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shipmate_F

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Joined:  Jun 21, 2023

You can only like a vtuber if you want to fuck 'em. I don't make the rules this is the foundation of our tribe. Godspeed Sawa, I believe you're closer than us. :pomuSalute:

Unrelated to what I just said, people here like interesting content, right? Soymilk is soldering a FM transmitter
 

The Rrat

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Ame is apparently moving back in with her family. Or rather, her family is moving in with her. This is... slightly concerning. For those who don't know the lore:
Ame grew up very poor. Her parents were basically never present so she and her older brother were raised by her grandmother and aunt instead. For most of her life this was the norm, until she started streaming and got modest sum of cash to herself. Her grandmother died while she was developing her streaming career - She was planning on becoming an EMT if she wasn't able to go any further... then she got accepted into Hololive.

Fast forward a year or so: Ame has been greatly successful and shared her wealth with her family (mainly by buying Auntie Watson a car). Apparently her mother heard about her throwing her cash around because she decided to "suddenly" come back into her life to beg her for cash. Ame, being too nice for her own good, gave her it.

Based on her saying she's moving today, and the other hints she's dropped during her sparse streaming since around Thanksgiving, we can kind of actually extrapolate what the last few months have been. Ame's family is in dire straits financially - she started paying for their health care. She's basically only doing that because her younger brother is in her mom's care and presumably she cares about him enough to not let him suffer for his mom's awful financial sensibility. I would guess Thanksgiving was the moment her family proposed to her to move in together. She probably spent the last few months working on foreclosing a house for them - she said this stream Studio de Ame is "getting bigger", so I'd guess she'll at least have space to herself.
So tl;dr: Positives are that we might get more big bro/little bro watson stories on stream (maybe debuts?), Auntie Watson closer to home, also bigger studio for more stuff. Major negative is living with her financial leech of a mother. Not too excited but at least glad the situation should probably be over soon so we can get back a semblance of "normal".
GDI, so that's what she meant by personal matters she had to attend to last year. :depressedtako:



Also, IRyS said she has a work-related decision to make that she is mulling over. It doesn't appear to be a good thing, because she wanted to push it out of her head while she was streaming.
:painpeko:
 

Jolted Cookies

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Hey, I've seen this one!
What do you mean, it's brand new.



Also, Nasa learning Star Wars from... chat? Don't think it's a watch along.
 

Lazybug

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Ensok

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Thomas Talus

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Idol companies far prefer unknown potentials than known quantity veterans as they can enforce bad contracts into the young ones who dont know what they are doing.
Coffee companies, on the other hand, specialize in corpo-experienced talent.
 

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V4Mirai's 🌙 Lunalia 🌙 twitter/youtube profiles are all up now.
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electronic elephant

"I am uncontrollable. I cannot be managed."—Vesper
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hylic

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This clips kinda proves my point of interacting with fan content

I don't know if Clara knows how to play the game but she's on track to be one the top girls when it comes to ccv and I think a part of it is her willingness to get in the trenches and have fun with her fans. If you follow her on twitter, once a day she will be retweeting clips, fan art, memes and shitposts. She also makes sure to drop a comment on her clips. It's early to tell but the girl has 3 dedicated clippers already when shiina, lia and uruka might get a clip once in a while and they're top talents.
Don't suck their cock, just show that you care. :kaelaapprob:

Clara comes from the idol world so she knows what it’s like to be a literal 1view in real life. For her, phase is her biggest break yet.
 

Xuhle

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Joined:  Nov 9, 2023
Luto came back for a moment and gave us a new cover.
 

Hotdogs Aplenty

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Probably making southern fried chicken and grits on Tuesday
 

superduper

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It looks like Phase is making an appearance in britbong land. Prepare yourself Proctor!

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Nenélove

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There may be a ton of people sending in their resumes to Hololive, but a known quality in the realm of vtubing is far more attractive to a company than a potential.

To compare it to the NFL again, it's like how head coaches or coordinators can bounce around the league, despite having many bad seasons under their belt. You'll often see them do a terrible job for several years, get fired, and then immediately hired by another team. Why wouldn't that team just hire someone new? Because those positions require a lot of specific skills that aren't all that common, and aren't all that clear if an individual even has them - until they're actually doing the job for real.

But then, you've hired them, filling a position, and letting it rip for a season. If you're wrong, and they're missing those skills, then shit, you've just fucked the entire season - including fucking over all the other coaches and players on the team. Not good. So teams usually play it safe and pick up someone they know can work the position, and assume (or hope) that the conditions on this team will have them play out well. At worst, they'll just suck, but at least they won't tank the entire season themselves.

With vtubers, especially in companies, they need to be good at keeping up dialogue while streaming, thinking on their feet, and just generally being entertaining. They need to be, to an extent, consistent with their stream times, with working with managers, and working with other people. These qualities are not universal in any profession, but most certainly not amongst the asocial awkward menhera dorks that are drawn to vtubing. You could even have someone with a small indie past, but once you plunk them down in a larger audience - with the additional expectation of adhering to a schedule, both streaming and behind-the-scenes company work - they could just freeze up and fold under the pressure. There goes a slot in a gen, along with the upfront investment for the vtuber themselves.

Pomu is a known quality, and she's got some damn good quality. Everyone knows what she can do, and they know her draw. Vtuber agencies know she can work in a company and keep pace with management. Add on her reputation in the scene, and any company would be crazy not to want her. The only question would be if she had reached her potential ceiling. If the agencies think her limit was reached while she was in Nijisanji, well, I could see Hololive passing on her, maybe. Smaller companies would love that ceiling, though.

But yeah they probably are just friends and I'm seeing more than there is because speculating is fun.
Fun theorycrafting but it doesn't track with reality. While I do think pomu IS possible (more possible than some ridiculous cope like Doki) I doubt Holo are gonna go out of their way to get her, if she does apply then she will pass the audition pretty much by default though.

And yeah, smaller agencies would kill to leech on big name ex-corpos, it's basically a huge numbers boost with no effort required, but that's because they are small. When you are small you need to beg and scrounge around for any opportunity you can get, when you get big you don't have to bow at anyone's feet.

As for Pomu I feel like she has a world of choice atm but she's either waiting for something or just taking it easy. My predictions are Holo or Vshojo, she has friends in both and Vshojo can probably tell her she will get insta 3D and a concert if she joins so I'm leaning towards that.
To compare it to the NFL again, it's like how head coaches or coordinators can bounce around the league, despite having many bad seasons under their belt. You'll often see them do a terrible job for several years, get fired, and then immediately hired by another team. Why wouldn't that team just hire someone new? Because those positions require a lot of specific skills that aren't all that common, and aren't all that clear if an individual even has them - until they're actually doing the job for real.
This is a bad analogy tbh, because there's a lot of people out there with talent, the pool of possible chuubas isn't that small.

The reason anyone would wanna hire a chuuba from one of the big two is not really skills, anyone here can preach to you about the superhuman skills of indie nobodies and how unfair it is they don't get the attention they deserve (which I agree with btw). The reason a small corpo CEO would want one of these girls is simply because they have a massive, loyal fanbase that can be exploited. In their eyes these girls are free clout, money and attention without the years of brand building and uncertain investment, it sounds bad but that's how it is, that's essentially Vshojo's whole strategy.

I would rather compare it to Hollywood studios remaking the same movies over and over, why make new movies when you can just profit off of nostalgia and the huge fandoms these 30 year old franchises have? If you ask me I would much rather see new blood enter the scene, and idk you but I don't wanna see an industry where "You'll often see them do a terrible job for several years, get fired, and then immediately hired by another team" that sounds like some nightmare hellscape.
 

Todd's Strongest Howard

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"You'll often see them do a terrible job for several years, get fired, and then immediately hired by another team" that sounds like some nightmare hellscape.

Video game developers unironically. :depressedtako:
 

electronic elephant

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