Banter/Off-topic Thread & Community Stoning Platform

[Migoed Helmet]

If you really want a real answer, I genuinely find any sort of conversation on any matter with @The Proctor to be a complete waste of my time at this point. I have discussed my views on just about every fucking matter of discourse that has taken place today over the course of the last 2 and a half years on this site whether out of response to something happening or from how I was expecting things to happen if things continued the way they did.

The fact of the matter is, I have not a single ounce of respect for him after that last horseshit with his femboy friend in Discord causing yet another fallout on this forum and am over the pittybaiting bullshit from all of you after hearing it over and over again. I genuinely view him as completely delusional over why he is disliked(spoilers: it is not and has never been just because he is the head of this place) and find him to be no better than Nolan in how he acts on and offsite.

Basically, the Migos will continue until morale improves. Which is never.

I get where you're coming from on that and have certainly pushed back on a decent share of Proctor posts that I've disagreed with myself. With that said, I think that's not exactly 100% the same as going off on the mods as a general rule. Lest we forget, the mods are the ones who ended up banning the discord friend in the first place. That decision was not the easy way out; it would have been very easy to just play into it and ban everyone else for daring to disagree with... whoshisface(?) because he knew the site owner. I'm sure there were words had between various parties behind the scenes on that one.


There's not really an easy answer on this one IMO. You're certainly justified in feeling frustrated with everything that's happened, but I also think rein is justified in his frustration as well. Being a mod ≠ being Proctor, is all I can really say.



Either way, I think the topic's been talked to death at this point. Time for cat pictures.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I think people need to stop taking shit so seriously and personally. I had written up a few paragraphs trying to address everyone and their complaints but then I remembered an important point: This is a fucking forum to talk about streamers pretending to be anime girls.

Are you niggas really trying to die on a hill over "how dare this retard do or say this retarded thing?"

 

[shipmate_F]

That Alexander stuff got me worried for a week or two as well, it was as if Evil Proctor (forma de spergo) descended upon this land and lashed out his extremist views like the troons and sisters always said he would.
I don't believe in guilt by association, but I believe in choosing your associates, and if people decided to not come here anymore because of that, it is what it is.
He could try reaching out (and apologizing to Slutpuppies, mainly) after some months by ensuring a neutral ground for havoc. That would be decent proof of goodwill.

I think people need to stop taking shit so seriously and personally. I had written up a few paragraphs trying to address everyone and their complaints but then I remembered an important point: This is a fucking forum to talk about streamers pretending to be anime girls.

Are you niggas really trying to die on a hill over "how dare this retard do or say this retarded thing?"

I agree with this, in the end we're here to be shitheads and sometimes insightful retards because we care about the larping e-girls to some extent and rejoice in their success.
No real reason to fight unless there's someone shitting in the hallways.

 

[Smelliest007]

Liquid Mucinex Severe Congestion and Cough usually works pretty well for me.

Edit: Seems like it has the same active ingredients as what @God's Strongest Wardog recommended plus a bit of Phenylephrine HCI. So something along those lines.

By the way, I did pick it up and works great. Only thing, I don't think it mixed well with some food I ate in my stomach.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Ya'll should be more like the Pippa thread regulars. Do more drugs like Tryptych, steal money and spike drinks like Reticule. Sexually harassing all Vtubers like Pipkun, or just be massively gay like the rest

 

[El Rrata]

I get where you're coming from on that and have certainly pushed back on a decent share of Proctor posts that I've disagreed with. With that said, I think that's not exactly 100% the same as going off on the mods as a general rule. Lest we forget, the mods are the ones who ended up banning the discord friend in the first place. That decision was not the easy way out; it would have been very easy to just play into it and ban everyone else for daring to disagree with... whoshisface(?) because he knew the site owner. I'm sure there were words had between various parties behind the scenes on that one.


There's not really an easy answer on this one IMO. You're certainly justified in feeling frustrated with everything that's happened, but I also think rein is justified in his frustration as well. Being a mod ≠ being Proctor, is all I can really say.



Either way, I think the topic's been talked to death at this point. Time for cat pictures.

I think you are mistaken about something. I didn't post that for validation or as an invitation to be convinced of anything, it was for clarification. I've been perfectly happy not being the initial instigator to shit with Proctor and just either straight up ignoring his shit or handing out reacts since even before the last spergout 99% of the time. I got dragged into this anyway for literally no other reason other than people getting assblasted over me handing out Migos lmao. You all are free to cope and rationalize about Cassandra in any way you all wish.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

And like, on the Farms that's not the WORST thing ever. There's tons of other things to discuss. Here though? It's basically all vTubers. If I don't want to discuss vTubers here because I feel like I get harangued by the same people over and over what then? If I'm not allowed to respond because Jannie is supposed to be above that, but it just spurs people on to be worse and worse what then? If we all get so emotionally uninvested from this forum we don't even want to bother maintaining it, what's the future?

Everyone's favorite vtuber gets shit talked about them, some do get more of it, and it's been like that for years. The site admin makes up fanfiction about the personality and dealings of vtubers he's never watched from offhand rratposts. I don't see why the same should be verboten for your vtuber of choice. I dunno, consult with the Nijisanji, Kson, Sayu, Vshojo, or even Gura fans, they've been dealing with it just fine, some of them for years.

How many essays shitting on random vtubers do I have to read before I can call Kirsche fat again without someone's rump getting ruptured?

As a janny you do get more shit than other users, it's honestly deserved, and maybe the general vibe towards the running of the website would improve if Proctor could just not be a complete fucking retard for longer than a week. Genuinely, what can I say about the warning Limkin caught earlier in the general thread? What's the positive spin on that? How should I feel about the fact that there's an autism shitstorm that hits about once a month at this rate, spawned mostly out of bad discord jannying or Proctor being a retard? How should I feel about reading the same "We'll do better" essay once every three months?

I also genuinely don't think anyone gives a fuck if the jannies start dropping bantz in the thread or thinks that jannies should be above that, just don't fucking abuse mod powers or leak DMs after getting folded in arguments.

If the weight of the broom is too much due to life, work and people talking shit about your oshi, just put the broom down, if you hate some us enough to the point that it stops you from having fun here, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you can get Proctor to think up a completely legitimate reason to ban everyone. I hear "admin disrespect" was all the rage in 2005.

Also just kill the discord, more than half of the nuclear-tier crashouts that have happened were because of it, even before king retard and his boyfriend got handily plapped by a small German boy.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

Genuinely, what can I say about the warning Limkin caught earlier in the general thread?

Had to check, woaw.
Didnt his precious 300 ton hwite whale get ostracized by every peanut brain femboy you americans call "right wing activists" for doing nothing but announcing a winner for "malewife" category, who happened to be conventionally attractive black male?

 

[VSoyBoy]

@VSoyBoy How do you even stay sane? You must impart us with your wisdom.

I think someone like BASADO actually helps in this case. Once you realize that you can make the best post of your life and there's still someone out there who'll give it a migo just because, you'll inevitably have to stop caring about it.
It goes both ways, and you'll never catch me genuinely complaining about migos because it goes both ways. I won't stop posting what I want just because of the risk of migos, so why would I expect the migos to stop if I complain about them?
I will make fun of it when I notice things, like with the migo stats post, but that's only because I find it interesting. If I genuinely cared, I wouldn't make those posts since they get the most migos.

Tl:dr: It doesn't fucking matter, focus on the positives.

 

[Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡]

Had to check, woaw.
Didnt his precious 300 ton hwite whale get ostracized by every peanut brain femboy you americans call "right wing activists" for doing nothing but announcing a winner for "malewife" category, who happened to be conventionally attractive black male?

Hey did you have breakfast two weeks ago? Wait, no, this morning?
It's important you answer so my butt buddies on Fagcord can goon and call you a retard behind your back.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

Hey did you have breakfast two weeks ago? Wait, no, this morning?
It's important you answer so my butt buddies on Fagcord can goon and call you a retard behind your back.

I ate macncheese with fried whitecaps

 

[Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡]

I ate macncheese with fried whitecaps

Nooooo you were supposed to be confused, my strawman is melting, AIIIIEEEEEE!!!!

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

Nooooo you were supposed to be confused, my strawman is melting, AIIIIEEEEEE!!!!

sorry too retarded... only kept around because unlike some other retard i dotn spam reports......

 

[Hff201]

Oh wow, I missed an entire episode of this because I was watching autistic women playing Cobblemon.

All I can really say that might be semi-constructive is that the staff should stop taking the Kirsche bait, since that's all it is. I understand you were keen to set the record straight after the Discord incident just to stop misinformation spreading, but nowadays "Kirsche ragequit because they called her fat" holds as much weight as "Gura doesn't stream because Vesper got her pregnant".

This place has an abrasive culture toward everyone and everything, and that's part of the appeal. I like Kirsche, but there shouldn't be any sacred cows.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

but there shouldn't be any sacred cows.

don't tell the Architects

at this point calling proctor retarded is timelooping also shank the mods.

 

[RestlessRain]

I like Kirsche, but there shouldn't be any sacred cows.

Heh heh, he said cow.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Honestly, I do think Proctor gets shat on more than he deserves. Does he have massive spergouts fuelled by having all the political certainty of a teenager to early twenties guy who's clearly the smartest guy in the room and convinced of his own infalliability?

Yeah. And shitting on him for those moments is entirely deserved. A thirty something guy should no longer act like a nineteen year old college kid bragging about his IQ online.

But he gets shat on when he isn't like that, too. All the time and 'round the clock when he actually gets shit done. Unironically more so than fucking MerelyTourist or any other current user. It's not hard to see how that wears one down over time.

Despite this, he has allowed a fairly open discourse and the abovementioned shitting that the vast majority of admins would not put up with. Has repeatedly recognised when he made an error and walked it back.

I'm mildly suspicious there's some genuine 'tism at play since I was genuinely taken aback by his attack on @VSoyBoy (then one of his more notable supporters) a bit ago, which didn't exactly scream social literacy. The whole keeping vtubers in the Discord thing has largely gone up in smoke for what I believe is essentially the same reason.

But regardless of the causes, I get why he and by extension the staff are miserable. It's one thing to get shat on when one makes a genuine error. Things get heated, one goes to bed angry, one knows one will never agree with user Y on that precise issue. But one at least knows why.

A fair amount of shitting on Proctor doesn't really have an immediate "Why," though. It's often just kicking him just because he's there, using old memes that have nothing to do with the latest post. He's not even particularly prone to bait. There's way more Kirsche fat/whore/whatever bait posts than there are Proctor reactions to them.

And that's not part of the regular user experience on TVA. That's specifically the Proctor experience.

Fuck, I longposted.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Honestly, I do think Proctor gets shat on more than he deserves. Does he have massive spergouts fuelled by having all the political certainty of a teenager to early twenties guy who's clearly the smartest guy in the room and convinced of his own infalliability?

Yeah. And shitting on him for those moments is entirely deserved. A thirty something guy should no longer act like a nineteen year old college kid bragging about his IQ online.

But he gets shat on when he isn't like that, too. All the time and 'round the clock when he actually gets shit done. Unironically more so than fucking MerelyTourist or any other current user. It's not hard to see how that wears one down over time.

Despite this, he has allowed a fairly open discourse and the abovementioned shitting that the vast majority of admins would not put up with. Has repeatedly recognised when he made an error and walked it back.

I'm mildly suspicious there's some genuine 'tism at play since I was genuinely taken aback by his attack on @VSoyBoy (then one of his more notable supporters) a bit ago, which didn't exactly scream social literacy. The whole keeping vtubers in the Discord thing has largely gone up in smoke for what I believe is essentially the same reason.

But regardless of the causes, I get why he and by extension the staff are miserable. It's one thing to get shat on when one makes a genuine error. Things get heated, one goes to bed angry, one knows one will never agree with user Y on that precise issue. But one at least knows why.

A fair amount of shitting on Proctor doesn't really have an immediate "Why," though. It's often just kicking him just because he's there, using old memes that have nothing to do with the latest post. He's not even particularly prone to bait. There's way more Kirsche fat/whore/whatever bait posts than there are Proctor reactions to them.

And that's not part of the regular user experience on TVA. That's specifically the Proctor experience.

Fuck, I longposted.

You are 100% right .... and? that's what we do I believe the term is grow some thicker skin at the risk of sounding callous.

If you have an account here if you use these forums you should be ok with being laughed at if you volunteer to be a moderator a position of power that even some of the more mild users here will take any chance to point and laugh then you really should have known what you were signing up for.

in any other situation i might be on the "other side" but considering the userbase and general attitude of people here if you cant deal with cheap shots while also applying for a position that comes with a free kick me sign then I cannot really sympathize this is part of this forums culture


Also fuck you for making me actually take this seriously

 

[The Proctor]

Genuinely, what can I say about the warning Limkin caught earlier in the general thread? What's the positive spin on that?

That was thhrang, not me, and I support him.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

Thhrang lost his funny bone.....
Admins.... Never castrate your jannies.....