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Vtuber Historian Clubhouse - Home of the Chart Autism
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'ove 'harts
'ate 'rave
Forced to disassemble everything, refit it, then reassemble again
I tore Riot into a gibillion pieces in my anger at realizing Cho Ginga needs to get stuffed in there like a turducken.
>Me desperately trying to figure out why and how I justified having 2 Riot musics in the chart one inside the other
>"Superyellow inc, the management company of label Riot music changes its name to riot music" written on a note attached to one of the elements
God last year me seems to have been a lot smarter than current year me.
>"Superyellow inc, the management company of label Riot music changes its name to riot music" written on a note attached to one of the elements
God last year me seems to have been a lot smarter than current year me.
Well today I made this after finishing my work on Riot Music (finally) and starting on refurbishing Idol+V4mirai. This is essentially just a visual reminder for myself of the different variations agencies can have depending on how they're organized and it looks neat so I might as well share it.
I took a very simple project (Egous) which has no branches or generations (yet) and only 3 talents and remade it to look like it would if it did have one or the other or neither. All of these variations are more common than you think even though people are very used to the classic Holo/Niji "AGENCY->BRANCH->GENERATION/WAVE".
The naming is an issue too so I have resorted to my own internal nomenclature of tiers:
Management Tiers
TIER I: Corporation Level (Includes: Parent Corporations, Holding Companies. Example: Cover Corp)
TIER II: Company Level (Includes: Companies, Subsidiaries, Management Organizations. Example: Hololive Production)
TIER III: Agency Level (Includes: Agencies, Projects, Labels, Companies, Brands. Example: Hololive)
Talent Tiers
TIER IV: Branch Level (Includes: Branches, Projects, Groups, Labels, Sub-labels. Example: Hololive EN)
TIER V: Generation Level (Includes: Generations, Waves. Example: Myth)
Of course these tiers are a bottomless barrel of exceptions. But to qualify for the chart, an entity needs at least a management tier and a talent tier. And an org can obviously have more than 5 tiers, though I have never come across any so far.
To make it more complicated there's also other conditionals, like pseudo-, which only applies to Tier IV. Defunct, which can apply to basically anything, and Tier downgrades/upgrades, which can happen when branches dissolve and merge, in which case a Tier IV downgrades to Tier V (Nijisanji ID and KR). Or when a part of a branch gets made into its own group, in which case it upgrades from V to IV (Meteopolis -> Cho Ginga).
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Indie incorporations into agencies will no longer get an arrow due to simply how common and disruptive it is for me to manage. With the new "debut" dates under the talent name they will simply get an original "debut" and then a "joined" date when they incorporated into the relevant agency. For talents which jumped from another agency or were indie after leaving another agency with their character they will still get the old treatment.
Agencies picking up indie talents just seems to be A LOT more common than I previously thought and it is making it nearly impossible to play around with chart positions because of the need to have the arrows contact the outer membrane of their parent company.
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Less arrows is probably better, also less unnecessary text, I trust people to be observant enough to spot these things.
Agencies picking up indie talents just seems to be A LOT more common than I previously thought and it is making it nearly impossible to play around with chart positions because of the need to have the arrows contact the outer membrane of their parent company.
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Less arrows is probably better, also less unnecessary text, I trust people to be observant enough to spot these things.
Update: Still in the Brossom mines, this shit is taking so fucking long because they literally have twice as many vtubers as Niji
Tallies so far from scraping all of the twitters:
Lux (18) Done✓
Viollet (25) Done✓
Flill (65) Done✓
Libon (164) In the works...
Cilq (239) Fucking kill me
Grand total: 511
Tallies so far from scraping all of the twitters:
Lux (18) Done✓
Viollet (25) Done✓
Flill (65) Done✓
Libon (164) In the works...
Cilq (239) Fucking kill me
Grand total: 511
I figured out what happened to starry resonance after all of these months... It just became bakedol (which is dead) lol. I guess that's another mystery solved.
I am pretty sure this fact can be found nowhere online except by digging into bakedol's abandoned twitter account (linked nowhere, found it by going through one of their graduated talents' accounts)
This is main reason why you cannot find bakedol announced anywhere but you can find starry resonance getting announced and holding auditions yet can never track where that went.
Good attempt brave but chartman is ten steps ahead of you.
I am pretty sure this fact can be found nowhere online except by digging into bakedol's abandoned twitter account (linked nowhere, found it by going through one of their graduated talents' accounts)
This is main reason why you cannot find bakedol announced anywhere but you can find starry resonance getting announced and holding auditions yet can never track where that went.
Good attempt brave but chartman is ten steps ahead of you.
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No rest for the wicked.Update: Still in the Brossom mines, this shit is taking so fucking long because they literally have twice as many vtubers as Niji
Tallies so far from scraping all of the twitters:
Lux (18) Done✓
Viollet (25) Done✓
Flill (65) Done✓
Libon (164) In the works...
Cilq (239) Fucking kill me
Grand total: 511
JOKES ON YOU ADVOCATUS FRATER! I HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED ALL OF THEM!
(I literally spent 4 straight hours with no breaks doing this please help)
Were those billable hours? If not, time to get back to work.
If I got paid for this I'd be a fucking millionaire
Also I was mistaken on cilq, it isn't 239, it's 237, but since they literally release new talents every few days it will probably end up being a dozen vtubers higher by the time I drop the Brave update...
Surely you knew this was a never ending sisyphean task when you began it. The only way it will ever come to an end is if Brave does.
Holy shit. That's a fucking ton of vtubers in a company, not even nijisanji has that massive amount of vtubers in a corpo.
Nope, not even Niji. Brave's chart as a whole is gonna end up totally deformed because of this but they were the ones who bought brossom and sent me down this torturous path in the first place so FUCK 'EM!
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