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Doubleposting because this is hilarious: All the writers and editors at Bioware got fired
I remember coming across one analysis post found it's normally a safe margin for a game's sales number of 70 sales per 1 review. That'll put you in the ball park pretty well for Steam sale numbers. But that takes a few weeks to start adding up. If the number is that high already, they'll probably shift a million copies of it over time pretty easily.
The issue is just the cost of the damn things. Where is all of that money going? It has to be the same thing that's beset Hollywood where all of the intermediate levels of the company are siphoning off money into little fiefdoms. (I'm not saying it's theft, just more offices with 100k renovations happen too much.)
Though GTA6 is going to come in as the most expensive media production in human history next year. But that has more to do with Rockstar basically just deciding to sit on it for an entire console generation because the tech upgrades they wanted to do simply needed a completely different install base.
I'm still trying to figure out what their plan was in all of this. I can absolutely see releasing PCs ports 4 years after an exclusive launch on the console. That's just IP longevity stuff. I was going to say I can't figure out Sony's strategy, but I think that's wrong. They have a new strategy every year and so they functionally have no strategy. I guess that former Playstation head that just up and left seemingly randomly understood what was going on and just got the hell out of Dodge.
Horizon is a good example of Sony having a good product and little clue what to do with it. They also couldn't help themselves with the sequel and Aloy got fat.
Xbox did something similar with Gears 5. And that went so poorly they had to go and make a prequel because they couldn't get 6 off the ground. (I've also rarely been so pissed at a game that suddenly threw a major story choice at me when there hadn't been one like that the entire rest of the game.)
GTA6 is entering a really fucked position. GTA5 released to the Xbox 360 and PS3 having 80 millions units sold EACH, so that's 160 million install base. Meanwhile the Xbox Series X/S is at 21 million while the PS5 is at 56 million. And yes, that's the sell-through amount for the PS5, that bullshit 65 million figure is the sell-in amount so there's like 9 million PS5s just sitting on shelves around the world. Cumulatively that's an install base of 77 million, less than half of the GTA5 install base. GTA6 will obviously pop off but I'm not expecting there to be a colossal surge of 20 million console sales just to play GTA6. Even worse is that Rockstar is now having to deal with turbo fomo, as people will have to start fresh with their GTA Online on GTA6 after people have dropped thousands on GTA5's Online.
GTA6 will definitely make a shitload of money but the amount of money poured into that fucker and the expectations because of that may result in it not hitting what everyone was expecting, only 2 gorillion instead of 4 gorillion.
Horizon 1 sold as well as it did because it got bundled with every PS4 imaginable and people just wanted to fight mecha dinosaurs. That one gameplay reel showing off Aloy shooting off a part from a dinosaur and then using it against them probably alone sold 5 million copies. Unfortunately the rest of the game is ass.
I also feel that everyone talks about GTA5's sales numbers, when it's really more that the MMO came with a single player game after a couple of years. They also got to double-dip with another console generation. The problem they ran themselves into is that making a "bigger, better" game ran smack into the same issues that Cyberpunk did. They were no way they were going to be able to fit it into the base PS4.
The real problem they're going to run themselves into isn't shelving the game for a full console cycle. It's that they had this game stuck with developers with time to fiddle. The amount of horrific BS that's going to be in the game is going to be wild.
Yeah I take the GTA5 numbers with a grain of salt since, yes, they may have sold that many copies, but I know people that have bought multiple physical copies of it because the game came with fake money for GTA Online and it was cheaper to get a new copy of the game than buy the in game currency.
Killzone wasnt that great of a franchise but its funny that they went from a very chudcore series about roided up men killing faceless space nazis to whatever Horizon is or tries to be
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I still think 4 is better than all of them.
Forced EA background app and Denuvo, not a dealbreaker for me but lol, lmao.
What was great about Killzone is that they unintentionally made the Space Nazis very sympathetic while the good guys went around committing war crimes. It was that lack of detail and obliviousness that was the standout element compared to its contemporaries back in the day.
Double posting because wow they could have come out and straight up said the series was canceled and it wouldn't have sounded as dead. Rest in piss Dragon Age. One out of four is.... well pretty terrible but we tend to grade game series on a curve Herr
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As Dragon Age Fans Fear the Death of the Series, One Former BioWare Developer Offers Words of Reassurance: 'Dragon Age Isn't Dead Because It's Yours Now' - IGN
Following layoffs at BioWare that saw the exit of many key developers of Dragon Age: The Veilguard, one former writer on the series has moved to reassure fans by saying: “Dragon Age isn't dead because it's yours now.”
Double posting because wow they could have come out and straight up said the series was canceled and it wouldn't have sounded as dead. Rest in piss Dragon Age. One out of four is.... well pretty terrible but we tend to grade game series on a curve Herr
As Dragon Age Fans Fear the Death of the Series, One Former BioWare Developer Offers Words of Reassurance: 'Dragon Age Isn't Dead Because It's Yours Now' - IGN
Following layoffs at BioWare that saw the exit of many key developers of Dragon Age: The Veilguard, one former writer on the series has moved to reassure fans by saying: “Dragon Age isn't dead because it's yours now.”
I'm good, thanks.
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If someone were to create their own Dark Fantasy AU setting and content, why base it on Dragon Age (dead in the water), instead of making it their own work that they could potentially turn into the "next" Dragon Age?
...At the same time, I have serious doubts that anyone making large-scale Dragon Age fan projects in [CURRENT YEAR] should be at the helm of anything remotely Dark Fantasy related, with how Veilguard turned out-
Better yet, a mod team should just use BG3's mod tools to put DAO into BG3.
The quote was more about being able to create fanfiction and art based on the setting. But who's going to bother to do that in 2025 except to joke at its expense?
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Yeah, that's what I was talking about, I only mentioned the AU because that's also what the guy in the article mentioned - so it's copium on their end that anyone would do such a large scale fan project in the first place, instead of making their own work!
But...but...Double posting because wow they could have come out and straight up said the series was canceled and it wouldn't have sounded as dead. Rest in piss Dragon Age. One out of four is.... well pretty terrible but we tend to grade game series on a curve Herr
As Dragon Age Fans Fear the Death of the Series, One Former BioWare Developer Offers Words of Reassurance: 'Dragon Age Isn't Dead Because It's Yours Now' - IGN
Following layoffs at BioWare that saw the exit of many key developers of Dragon Age: The Veilguard, one former writer on the series has moved to reassure fans by saying: “Dragon Age isn't dead because it's yours now.”
How could this have happened, bros? This game was supposed to own the chuds! It wasn't supposed to kill an entire
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