Sinder Containment Thread

[Kazuma]

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Some people on r/virtualyoutubers are saying Sinder might become a right-wing grifter

 

[Superduper Samurai]

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Some people are r/virtualyoutubers are saying Sinder might become a right-wing grifter

The space for a animal girl right winger is already taken by Kirsche, both literally and figuratively

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

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Some people are r/virtualyoutubers are saying Sinder might become a right-wing grifter

I mean yea thats not an impossibility thats what happened to multiple leftietard twitch streamers now

 

[46gumi]

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Some people are r/virtualyoutubers are saying Sinder might become a right-wing grifter

It's what happened with Amouranth so...

 

[dumdum did nothing wrong]

Wait, so why is everyone ignoring Nano to go after Sinder? Taking bribes to fuck over other vtubers is just as bad as what Sinder was doing. Or is it just that Nano is too important to burn at the stake?

I brought that up the other night. Nano definitely ain't a innocent party in this but the usual places elsewhere will tell you you're victim blaming. Going exclusive isn't inherently wrong but how Sinder, Red, and Nano approached and carried out it is. Nano should have honored her agreements then gone exclusive. Instead she cancelled, lied, and think some of the girls had merch related to the cancelled models so maybe cost some girls money. Not too mention she spoke of what she was working on with Bao or someone with Red in a screenshot somewhere in a Doc. All in all Nano is kind of scummy.

Obv the public sees Nano as a victim and hero for coming forward but my personal is either one of the girls got wind of what went down and threatened Nano to come forward or be thrown in with Sinder and them and possibly sued or Nano was losing business and this was her way of salving it and her rep.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

Obv the public sees Nano as a victim and hero for coming forward but my personal is either one of the girls got wind of what went down and threatened Nano to come forward or be thrown in with Sinder and them and possibly sued or Nano was losing business and this was her way of salving it and her rep.

I think most of them don't want to lynch Nano cause they still want those juicy models to keep being made. Plus, if they wanted to not look like two-faced fucks, they'd all have to get completely new models from different artists, since still using models made by a terrible, horrible, no good, google docfu, cancel-jutsu'd, monster is a terrible look.

 

[dkn2038]

tell me if im late

 

[Last Of The Mohicans]

We're now entering the phase where people are virtue signaling via hating the right people for good boy points/engagement/clout.

 

[Helkar]

Sinder went with both acknowledging that her manager is her SO and claiming she didn't know anything about anything he did? That is pretty impressive, let's see how it worked out for her in the replies...ah.
Yeah she might end up having some trouble getting her social circle back.
Honestly with this response and her former friends absolutely obliterating her in return, i'm struggling to think of what options she even has now.
Besides fansly, of course.

 

[Phantasm]

Sinder went with both acknowledging that her manager is her SO and claiming she didn't know anything about anything he did? That is pretty impressive, let's see how it worked out for her in the replies...ah.
Yeah she might end up having some trouble getting her social circle back.
Honestly with this response and her former friends absolutely obliterating her in return, i'm struggling to think of what options she even has now.
Besides fansly, of course.

I suppose it's a good day for those sad lonely men who desperately want her to follow in Menace's footsteps and btw is the knowledge that she hates them and thinks their disgusting creeps a pro or con for these types of people because if she thought her PL's ASMR fans were creepy I hope she's ready for the coomers

 

[Paladin]

Sinder went with both acknowledging that her manager is her SO and claiming she didn't know anything about anything he did? That is pretty impressive, let's see how it worked out for her in the replies...ah.
Yeah she might end up having some trouble getting her social circle back.
Honestly with this response and her former friends absolutely obliterating her in return, i'm struggling to think of what options she even has now.
Besides fansly, of course.

Going nuclear was her only option from the start. She was comically cooked earlier on and that’s why everyone was hoping for the ewhore apocalypse as that was her best play if the ammo exist. Given the way things are turning out she’s either incredibly naïve or there’s simply no ammo.

 

[PipkinPipparoni]

As a right-winger I have to ask "since when?"

i could be being very ESL right now but if you are asking when amoranth started being right wing it was a pretty recent thing. she started saying stuff like she wished the troons in california were the ones who died in the wildfires and then started talking highly of trump. theres a video out right now of her saying she would want trump and andrew tate with her to survive zombies so most lefties are saying shes a super right wing nazi now. honestly sounds more to me like shes just trying to grift in more simps since the ones she has now are either left because of the husband or are running out of money.

Sinder went with both acknowledging that her manager is her SO and claiming she didn't know anything about anything he did? That is pretty impressive, let's see how it worked out for her in the replies...ah.
Yeah she might end up having some trouble getting her social circle back.
Honestly with this response and her former friends absolutely obliterating her in return, i'm struggling to think of what options she even has now.
Besides fansly, of course.

my bet is that shes going to make another apology for this apology. this time she will take the blame and say she just got carried away and that shes going to go get therapy to work on her issues and lie about dumping her bf because he suddenly became abusive.

after that she will ditch the sinder character and go back to her previous one as tashi where she will just make ASMR and post thrist traps like bunnyayu does. might even go full whore if things get real bad but either way the sinder character is done for its far too tainted now. her best bet is to graduate and take a few months off and pray nobody cares anymore when she comes back.

 

[Tubedude]

So was twitter surfing the responses to Sinder stuff, and apparently there's some grooming/defending groomers allegations too? Take with massive grains of salt since effectively no evidence and one of the people already deleted their posts, supposedly out of "fear of her community."

Trying to archive, but the sites are giving me issues, so screenshotting and will keep trying to archive properly.

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Can someone try archiving too, the archive sites keep infinite loading or giving errors.

 

[dkn2038]

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

We're now entering the phase where people are virtue signaling via hating the right people for good boy points/engagement/clout.

Show me someone torching unshipped Sinder merch and we'll have something, people destroying stuff that's already bought? Snore.

 

[Tubedude]

My gut is telling me these are vermintide/kids riding the bandwagon. If you're accusing someone of something as heavy as grooming minors, you need to go headfirst. Unless they meant grooming 20 year olds like Elfin did, then they're retarded and full of shit.

The one that deleted said he was 16 at the time of incident, and the other is claiming Sinder defended people who had grooming allegations levied at them while she was under her Tashi persona. Again basically just their word, no real evidence, but hey trying to collect shit before it disappears even more, just in case.

 

[Void Scribas]

Jesus I guess I'm gullible cause I thought this was the best apology she could do she owns up on a lot and admits to being an insecure bitch to spite and silver. The only things she denies are Red shit talking her friends and former commissioners. She knows she has no right to try and talk to any of the affected privately and opts to publicly apologize individually in the doc. She seemingly knows that those friendships are over. Honestly I can buy her bf being a ruthless business man and Sinder being stupid enough not ensure oversight on everything he did

Or she's a lying bitch and I'm just too nice to believe it
Edit: also possible that I'm more charitable because I never got around to reading all the docs in full so I can't call out any contradictions
Edit 2: retracted. I'm too nice

Sinder debuts as a vtuber with a Nano model, one which bears a passing resemblence to Silvervale at the time. Sinder gets legit one-guyed by this comparison and is super insecure over it. She/her manager (who is revealed to be her boyfriend) eventually gets the idea to do a collab with Silver to settle the whole thing and profit from her audience, but Silver says no because she recognised it was for a grift and called it out by saying she didn't want transactional relationships. This turns Sinder's insecurity into an actual grudge.
Sinder/her manager start trying to fuck over Silver in private by paying off Nano to drag out and postpone her art projects, resulting in an upcoming model for Silver getting cancelled. Having done it with Silver, Sinder then starts using the same tactics to try and fuck over other vtubers big enough to compete with her like Bao. She does it too much to too many different vtubers that they start catching on, compare notes, and presumably after confronting Nano for the DMs as hard proof you get all the google docs.
There's a bunch of other shit in there like Sinder e-cheating with her boyfriend/manager, or ripping off assets and designs from others, but that's the main complaint. A bunch of vtubers, supposed friends even, getting their business sabotaged by Sinder in one prolonged woman moment of spite and projecting her own issues onto others. Sinder's trying to push all blame onto the manager going rogue but no-one's buying it due to the time spanned & the fact he's her long-term boyfriend.

I wasn't going to docpost today but this situation keeps on giving:

[a] fixed the link because ghostarchive is faggy tonight

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Jesus Christ, so many coming out with more evidence of a behavioral pattern schizos read years ago. Who would've thought.

I would say most of the damning actual evidence clearly focuses on RED being an asshole and Sinder just going along with his whims. Maybe....

The Sinder parts of the documents are more circumstantial, and the only thing we have are personal testimonies.

In that regard, Shylily is the most heavy punch directly a Sinder because:

1) Shylily doesn't usually enter in dramas, so the fact that she will tweet with such rage means AT LEAST something happened

2) She makes clear in her tweet a situation that happened without RED to emphasize that Sinder was also the problem

Now the question is: Would Shylily lie??? To be honest, I will choose to believe her.

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Then we have Sinder response

Let's break this down because the real problem is that Sinder defense is that she didn't know RED was acting in this manner.

Now the main issue is the very likely probability of that not being true because he is also her boyfriend. Intuition and common-sense dictates that OF COURSE she would have known. Like is Sinder retarded????

BUT THERE IS SOME OTHER PROBLEM HERE.

What if what Sinder is saying is the true????

Bitch, you let your manager free leeway and totally freedom to act like he wants just because he is your bf??? Damn, such a malpractice

But also, and being a little empathic with Sinder HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT YOU DIDNT KNOW SOMETHING?? How do you prove that you didn't knew RED was doing these things??

In that regard, Sinder situation is Kafkaesque, she really has no way to escape this.

Nonetheless, she could have go scorch earth mode. Yet alas, that didn't happen.

Unless??

 

[niggaphil]

Present without context;



I am not sure what happened in thr recent indie drama, but it is too funny to see someone burn the vtuber merch like witch hunt

 

[Realticule]

Man, now I'm in a whore thread and that's not like me. Is this the curse of Magi-Chan?

 

[God's Saddest Tattletail]

Deme reading the Sinder apology:


Alana reading the Sinder apology: