Nijisanji declares Total Retard War on Dokibird

[Seth]

Did she just confirm that everyone (including management) saw nina and mysta months before the video and that including ex-liver narrative 2 days was entirely bullshit?
And she only came out to say so because a niji retard had to lie about her on someone else stream to push their narrative?
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More likely the management wasnt a part of the " team " in charge of the mv. I would assume so

 

[Nigel Nigerman]

Did she just confirm that everyone (including management) saw nina and mysta months before the video and that including ex-liver narrative 2 days was entirely bullshit?
And she only came out to say so because a niji retard had to lie about her on someone else stream to push their narrative?
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So that means they really screwed with Doki by privating the video. Management is bullying Doki and forcing her to quit but she took the backflip and flipped it over their heads.

Fuck management and Harry with a rusty saw, seriously.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Many thought it was baffling that there was seemingly no checks of WIP frames by management so if the artists or atleast one is saying that it didnt break guidelines then he must've gotten a form of OK even back then

So either management changed their mind at the last second or they were so incompetent that the intern either didnt check or realize that including other livers was verboten, unless Selen was the one who told him it was Ok

 

[Sankisei]

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

Did she just confirm that everyone (including management) saw nina and mysta months before the video and that including ex-liver narrative 2 days was entirely bullshit?
And she only came out to say so because a niji retard had to lie about her on someone else stream to push their narrative?
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We don't talk enough about how catastrophically dumb the reason for taking down the MV since it contained characters that AnyColor is the sole & singular own of.

 

[Limkin]

We don't talk enough about how catastrophically dumb the reason for taking down the MV since it contained characters that AnyColor is the sole & singular own of.

- I got a permission from everyone!
- No you didn't, what about this ex-livers on the last part, you need a permission from them too
- Oh ffs, ok, fine, can you ask them about it, I don't have their contacts
- No, they don't work for us anymore so they can't decide if they give a permission to use their character or not
~does a flip~

 

[Tubedude]

Many thought it was baffling that there was seemingly no checks of WIP frames by management so if the artists or atleast one is saying that it didnt break guidelines then he must've gotten a form of OK even back then

So either management changed their mind at the last second or they were so incompetent that the intern either didnt check or realize that including other livers was verboten, unless Selen was the one who told him it was Ok

There could have also been multiple layers of management. Got approved at the first level but the second level only got to see it recently, or something. Trying to make sense of Niji's actions is headache inducing.

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

There could have also been multiple layers of management. Got approved at the first level but the second level only got to see it recently, or something. Trying to make sense of Niji's actions is headache inducing.

Lying. Someone lied about something, then lied about something else and then made a big stink because it's a means to an end. The only time an ex-Liver would need to be approached would be to use their previous vocal work. There would be no residuals tied to the character designs or models. Those should be wholly the property of AnyColor.

Which I now have to ask the question: Are the Models maybe NOT the wholly owned property of AnyColor? Or was something doing "penny wise, pound foolish" about reputation laws?

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

yugo's biggest fuckups were mostly stemming from their inability to think straight under pressure, a lot of their stupid stunts (the ramble on drunk streams, earthquake stuff etc.) are something like spur-of-the-moment stuff that gets them under hot water almost immediately. This is why I think they're better off an indie with a moderate fanbase until they could learn to be more professional at the front.
Other than that they're definitely one of the more talented ex-hire singer nj could ever get even with all the emotional baggage issues, so I'm pretty happy that they managed to find a good footing in their current indie venture

I'd argue that Niji fucked up hard by having Yugo debut in a supposedly all male wave, promptly becoming the runt of the litter.

I don't know whether she's playing a role like Tamaki or is a genuine pooner, but her menhera as a result of not fitting in and consequently being left behind were foreseeable either way.

 

[Koronesuki]

- I got a permission from everyone!
- No you didn't, what about this ex-livers on the last part, you need a permission from them too
- Oh ffs, ok, fine, can you ask them about it, I don't have their contacts
- No, they don't work for us anymore so they can't decide if they give a permission to use their character or not
~does a flip~

"I have their contact information if you need to talk to them."
"Not now, Pomu."
"I'm just saying that I have their contacts if you need them."
"NOT NOW, POMU!"
"Screw this. I'm graduating."

 

[niggaphil]

Lying. Someone lied about something, then lied about something else and then made a big stink because it's a means to an end. The only time an ex-Liver would need to be approached would be to use their previous vocal work. There would be no residuals tied to the character designs or models. Those should be wholly the property of AnyColor.

Which I now have to ask the question: Are the Models maybe NOT the wholly owned property of AnyColor? Or was something doing "penny wise, pound foolish" about reputation laws?

Not sure about the Vtuber copyright law, but there is a specific cases we might able to refer: The incident of Gundam Sentinel

Gundam Sentinel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Important quote from this wiki:
"While Model Graphix would hold the rights to the story, characters, and mobile units, Bandai would have the sole copyright of releasing its models."

Edit: Here contained more info regarding this incident with some citations and sources:

ON GUNDAM SENTINEL – Zeonic|Scanlations

www.zeonic-republic.net

It is a Gundam Novel where the main company Bandai designed and sell the Gundam plastic model kit, while the magazine company Model Graphix, wrote the side stories of this novel.

After the Novel was ended, Bandai had a fall-out with Model Graphix, so it resulted in complicate copyright issue (Bandai own the mecha design, but Model graphix own the story and character design). To avoid long-ass copyright lawsuit with Model Graphix in the future, Bandai only released the Sentinel Gundam plastic kit (or appeared in media/game), but without any pilot character (designed from Model Graphix) included in the merch.

So far this is the very strange case about copyright regarding the IP.

I think Kurosanji could actually try this route, where they could allow their talents to use or refer the "graduated" vtuber model (since Riku owned it) under specific condition (ahem* Last cup of Coffee *ahem), but forbidden to use the original roomate voices or AI-generated voices (to avoid the lawsuit).

However, I guess Riku is too lazy, or Kurosanji/KuroEN managements are a bunch of retarded people, hence resulting in Doki almost doing a backflip

 

[I Wanna Die]

We don't talk enough about how catastrophically dumb the reason for taking down the MV since it contained characters that AnyColor is the sole & singular own of.

It's gotta be part of how management lords over talents and plays favoritism. If you're telling me someone needs more than 10 minutes to look at her video and tell it was fine you're a fucking retard.

 

[The Rratarded Alt]

Lying. Someone lied about something, then lied about something else and then made a big stink because it's a means to an end. The only time an ex-Liver would need to be approached would be to use their previous vocal work. There would be no residuals tied to the character designs or models. Those should be wholly the property of AnyColor.

Which I now have to ask the question: Are the Models maybe NOT the wholly owned property of AnyColor? Or was something doing "penny wise, pound foolish" about reputation laws?

We already know management is more than willing to lie or have Livers lie because of the bullshit reasons they give for stealth suspensions. Bet they would lie about the reason for rejections the same way. No approval from ex-livers sounds like BS.

 

[Tuwuturu]

There could have also been multiple layers of management. Got approved at the first level but the second level only got to see it recently, or something. Trying to make sense of Niji's actions is headache inducing.

This fits with what Sayu shared about her own experiences with management. For example, the fact that there always was a level of management that dealt with them who sometimes would give the go head but then later on would report to a higher-up who blatantly would revoke the permission or reproach Sayu for being more forward toward getting a different answer (or trying to give solutions to the whatever issue was plaguing projects, etc.)

 

[frz]

Reminder that it's a cropped out message missing all the context. Doki should have just say fucked off and post the whole thing

The fact that the thing was in mobile was sus as well because the picture was clearly edited on a computer. Which means even management didnt have access to the whole chat log and it was likely Millie who sent them the phone dms.

 

[Seth]

Reminder that it's a cropped out message missing all the context. Doki should have just say fucked off and post the whole thing

The fact that the thing was in mobile was sus as well because the picture was clearly edited on a computer. Which means even management didnt have access to the whole chat log and it was likely Millie who sent them the phone dms.

Admit it , you created The Great Unifying Rrat

 

[frz]

Admit it , you created The Great Unifying Rrat

I have peddled the millie rrat even before gurrat came out.
Also no I wouldnt make such a rookie mistake with the easily refutable NFT/yaelabs shit. You would see me bringing in Shagufta and Harry.

 

[DaddyChill]

No action from Elira or Vox yet huh? Whose gonna sacrifice themselves to see if they've said anything in membership posts?

 

[Negzana]

No action from Elira or Vox yet huh? Whose gonna sacrifice themselves to see if they've said anything in membership posts?

Earliest something will happen is Monday

More likely something will happen in March

Right now just waiting for Doki to surpass Enna

 

[Security]

Also no I wouldnt make such a rookie mistake with the easily refutable NFT/yaelabs shit. You would see me bringing in Shagufta and Harry.

Can you summarize both the NFT/yaelabs and Shagufta for me? I've heard a little bit about the former, and nothing of the latter.