"Konyappi~ it's Hololive 4th gen's Takoyaki Tower-samaaa~"Tokoyami Towa

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RedRage

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Do not try to argue with the "SUBS > DUBS" crowd, they've been virtue signaling about what language they watch their Japanese cartoons in decades before politics got into English dubbing.

Just pat them on the head, tell them they're a very good weeb, and move on.
My argument has always been I don't speak Japanese, so it takes a much worse VA to stick out as low quality in Japanese than English.
Of course she latched onto cookie.
 

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This bodes well for whatever this is
Cookie.PNG
 

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Something told me this stream was going to be 20% trying to play Touhou and 80% Pippa walking through Touhou media.
My argument has always been I don't speak Japanese, so it takes a much worse VA to stick out as low quality in Japanese than English.
Hell, it's a much more honest reason than "I don't speak a word of their language but I just know they're better actors!"
 

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I just think it's silly to assume the people subbing aren't as retarded as the people dubbing. There's a reason Japan is opting to use AI now over human localizers because it's all shit all the way down.
I've seen it, my favorite one so far was that the subs for doctor stone kept substituting a characters catch phrase with dated and forgettable internet humor its pretty obvious if you are remotely paying attention didn't used to be as common
Become nihongu jouzu if you want the real thing.
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I want her to explore Koishi Komeiji's Heart-Throbbing Adventure next.
 

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I've seen it, my favorite one so far was that the subs for doctor stone kept substituting a characters catch phrase with dated and forgettable internet humor its pretty obvious if you are remotely paying attention didn't used to be as common
The more popular something gets the more leeches it attracts.
 

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There's a reason Japan is opting to use AI now over human localizers because it's all shit all the way down.
In fairness that's probably mostly a cost-cutting thing, but audiences are becoming more receptive to it because stilted, grammatically awkward translations are still preferable to whatever political diatribes or "topical" memes the overweight women who work in localisation want to shoehorn in.

The perk is that machine learning will improve over time, while stubborn human workers who hate their audience will continue to butcher the work because they're bitter.
 

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Do not try to argue with the "SUBS > DUBS" crowd, they've been virtue signaling about what language they watch their Japanese cartoons in decades before politics got into English dubbing.
They watch subs because they're weebs
I watch subs because every dub I've heard (both En and Ru) made me die of cringe
We're not the same

Seriously tho, idk if it's just how anime is, but the admittedly few I've watched, dubs have been unbearable. I'd much prefer to hear Japanese gibberish I don't understand than suffer an average dub.

Probably the only good dub I've heard was Edgerunners, because it was clearly intended as the primary VO
 

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In fairness that's probably mostly a cost-cutting thing, but audiences are becoming more receptive to it because stilted, grammatically awkward translations are still preferable to whatever political diatribes or "topical" memes the overweight women who work in localisation want to shoehorn in.

The perk is that machine learning will improve over time, while stubborn human workers who hate their audience will continue to butcher the work because they're bitter.
It will all be fine assuming the Japanese control the AI otherwise it will be stilted and woke
 

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For a moment I just thought she said meat Pippa and I was gonna commit a crime.
 

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In fairness that's probably mostly a cost-cutting thing, but audiences are becoming more receptive to it because stilted, grammatically awkward translations are still preferable to whatever political diatribes or "topical" memes the overweight women who work in localisation want to shoehorn in.

The perk is that machine learning will improve over time, while stubborn human workers who hate their audience will continue to butcher the work because they're bitter.
It's probably both, companies constantly cut out useless middle men, just look how Tokyo Pop got purged. This is something the west has failed at in media, they're too slow at looking at a sector and purging it when it becomes a cancer.

I do feel bad for Vic though, first he got fucked by his coworkers, then by a shyster non practicing lawyer.

It will all be fine assuming the Japanese control the AI otherwise it will be stilted and woke
That's a real concern, Japan has always been good at the physical aspect of tech, not so much the code side.
 

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The perk is that machine learning will improve over time
Lets hope, most of the companies behind it have been doing their best to both preemptively sterilize and make "proper" anything surrounding AI.
 

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Please explain why?
cookie kiss (the original work) was a thing made by a creep to groom underaged voice actors. 2ch found it and turned it into an expanded universe where every touhou character is a OC based off of men from a gay porn (different fanbase of homos adjacent to gachimuchi stuff). it was probably the most autistic thing in japan and touhou fans hate it because people stumble on it and think it's the original.
 

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Warrior Cats tangent, let's go
 

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cookie kiss (the original work) was a thing made by a creep to groom underaged voice actors. 2ch found it and turned it into an expanded universe where every touhou character is a OC based off of men from a gay porn (different fanbase of homos adjacent to gachimuchi stuff). it was probably the most autistic thing in japan and touhou fans hate it because people stumble on it and think it's the original.
That's one of the most autistic things I've ever heard. Really giving sonic the hedgehog a run for his money
 
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