Idol Corp - Sniffing out the most golden and smoky controversies in the vtubing industry.

[Hff201]

For what it's worth, my biggest problem with Pochi/Fluffen's conduct is that everything we hear from her is drenched in an obnoxious emotionally-charged, performative-feeling pitybait tone. Even if she is genuinely upset, that poisons the integrity of everything she says, since 99% of the time when I see an Internet personality sadposting after a scandal or controversy, they are trying to emotionally manipulate their audience into letting them off the hook.

I don't think any one thing she's done has made her reputation unsalvageable. The biggest criticism against her is obviously the series of donothons and unfulfilled goals, and even that'd be forgivable if she confidently put her hands up and apologised for the delays, then cracked on with getting them done as and when she's able to. Some people would still be a tad annoyed about it being late, but as soon as it was all done nobody (who should matter to her, at least) would have any ammunition against her.

The problem is, she doesn't do that. Nothing about the pityposts she makes whenever she reads a mean comment inspires any kind of confidence that she actually understands where the contention is coming from, it just feels like she wants a simp hugbox to validate her feelings without taking any accountability herself.

 

[The Proctor]

To note: I have no proof that this person is who they say they are, however they aren't using a VPN so I can at least confirm they're not a Jambalya gayop (probably.)

 

[Koronesuki]

Unless Jambalaya got in touch with Pochi and they decided to pull off the greatest April Fools prank ever.

 

[Azehara]

Pochi/Fluffenfox has dropped a relatively short Google doc about her time at Idol.

Fluffenfox 🦊🐾 on X: "not aprils fools. that's probably the last i'll say, idk how long this will stay up- i'm still on/off hiatus and working on stuff but after this i really want to do my thing and not have it plaguing my mind anymore so it's best t

ghostarchive.org

The tldr is that she felt unsupported at the company. It all seems kind of tame to drop after all this time but maybe she just needed her name to circulate a bit or something. PDF archive attached.

Seems like the stardard of the vast majority of small corpos. Bunch of promises and nice words only to be left isolated because "New Shiny wave" leaving to sad girls having broken dreams.

No evidence of shit that went down, nothing new elaborated upon.

To paraphrase what Samurai said in the Pochi thread, that whole doc is just a whole lot of words to say nothing.

No real evidence but Im pretty sure you can connect the dots an assume that would be the case especially given how much Idol promised and how little they delivered. Also knowing how other small corpos operate and you start to paint a fairly comprehensive picture of what happened. There is no reason to think she's lying but at the same time she needs to move the fuck on.

The problem is, she doesn't do that. Nothing about the pityposts she makes whenever she reads a mean comment inspires any kind of confidence that she actually understands where the contention is coming from, it just feels like she wants a simp hugbox to validate her feelings without taking any accountability herself.

I agree with what you say and honestly It does feel that way. Like that one girl who made that one tweet saying that she wants to eat pizza but tomato sauce upsets her stomach and when people offered solutions to her problem she just had a meltdown and started attacking people because she just wanted people to agree and not offer solutions.

 

[trostanisvoice]

To note: I have no proof that this person is who they say they are, however they aren't using a VPN so I can at least confirm they're not a Jambalya gayop (probably.)

The only Jambalya I know is the food. Not a ton of traction/questions here, but if you want proof that wont dox me or her, happy to provide whatever.

 

[Hff201]

The only Jambalya I know is the food. Not a ton of traction/questions here, but if you want proof that wont dox me or her, happy to provide whatever.

If you have privacy concerns about proving who you are you can reach out to the staff and they can give us a "yes he's legit" without sharing the specifics of what you sent them.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

The only Jambalya I know is the food.

user here combined with an in joke.

I suggest private messaging Proctor or another mod your still having to share personal information but they will not leak it seems to work pretty well.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

As an outsider the issue I have with a lot of these allegations is that talents within Idol and after still continue to do some of the very things she complained about Aviel pushing

Like did she not try to pull off a "safe" lewd patreon? Like I get it, I can believe he did these things. But at the same time some of these allegations seem to apply more to Vtubers who pull scams, GFE shit etc without his pull. Perhaps he gave them a nudge, but these broads are still rolling.

Some more than others

 

[Hff201]

As an outsider the issue I have with a lot of these allegations is that talents within Idol and after still continue to do some of the very things she complained about Aviel pushing

Like did she not try to pull off a "safe" lewd patreon? Like I get it, I can believe he did these things. But at the same time some of these allegations seem to apply more to Vtubers who pull scams, GFE shit etc without his pull. Perhaps he gave them a nudge, but these broads are still rolling.

Some more than others

If there's anyone this actually applies to it'd probably be Yuko/Rye, she's the one who walked back the GFE/lewd ASMR shit while in Idol and as far as I know hasn't gone back to it since leaving. Fluffen and Rye still seem to be close (Rye drew fanart for her just the other day - archive) so there's a chance they've just been talking about Rye's experience rather than everyone across the board.

...Although with how the pipeline works it's entirely possible the remaining ethots just got a feel for it after (((Aviel))) introduced it to them.

 

[Hff201]

Crossposting from General:

(Poko and Coni from Idol)

Archive

Not-Poko and Not-Coni from Idol EN Gen 2 vagueposting.

Spoiler

?

 

[httn]

Crossposting from General:


Archive

Not-Poko and Not-Coni from Idol EN Gen 2 vagueposting.

Spoiler

?

Add in Tonya vagueposting on her alt.


Archive

 

[Void Scribas]

Add in Tonya vagueposting on her alt.


Archive

That has to be the vaguepost most vague that I have ever seen, to the point that there is less than a nothingburger, there is a void, nothing is happening, nothing ever happens.

 

[wew]

Add in Tonya vagueposting on her alt.


Archive

Maybe brave is merging en groups also that's my guess

 

[Koronesuki]

Maybe brave is merging en groups also that's my guess

@NeneLOVE will have to redo his chart again.

 

[John Vtuber👁️]

@NeneLOVE will have to redo his chart again.

We're going to need a chart regarding the adjustments to the chart at this point!

 

[Hff201]

Maybe brave is merging en groups also that's my guess

I'm confident this will happen eventually, and if it does it'll be the beginning of the end for a lot of people's actual genuine enthusiasm toward the corpos in question. The EN Brave corpos all suffer from a lack of identity as it is, merging them together would just make that particular problem even worse.

 

[Negronald Trump]

I'm confident this will happen eventually, and if it does it'll be the beginning of the end for a lot of people's actual genuine enthusiasm toward the corpos in question. The EN Brave corpos all suffer from a lack of identity as it is, merging them together would just make that particular problem even worse.

Let me just say, if they're merging Idol and Globie under V4Mirai which is their best, well-run corpo that consistently gives their talents proper support and an avenue for growth via 3Ds and conventions then that means Brave is at least serious for helping the talents. The management at V4Mirai are the best that Brave has. Dunno about their finances but the way they handle their talents are just

If this is just them trimming the fat to save money then their talents are fucked big time. @NeneLOVE, purveyor of the chartardation, any RRATS why all of these mergers are happening?

 

[Hff201]

Let me just say, if they're merging Idol and Globie under V4Mirai which is their best, well-run corpo that consistently gives their talents proper support and an avenue for growth via 3Ds and conventions then that means Brave is at least serious for helping the talents. The management at V4Mirai are the best that Brave has. Dunno about their finances but the way they handle their talents are just

If this is just them trimming the fat to save money then their talents are fucked big time. @NeneLOVE, purveyor of the chartardation, any RRATS why all of these mergers are happening?

V4Mirai have created an illusion of good management by botting the numbers and conveniently not having any serious fallouts yet. Given the shady shit around the other EN corpos I really don't believe they have clean hands, just that the dirt hasn't spilt out yet.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Let me just say, if they're merging Idol and Globie under V4Mirai which is their best, well-run corpo that consistently gives their talents proper support and an avenue for growth via 3Ds and conventions then that means Brave is at least serious for helping the talents. The management at V4Mirai are the best that Brave has. Dunno about their finances but the way they handle their talents are just

If this is just them trimming the fat to save money then their talents are fucked big time. @NeneLOVE, purveyor of the chartardation, any RRATS why all of these mergers are happening?

They aren't merging V4mirai and Idol, mostly because those two are already merged. Their shared managing entity is Brave US so their "merger" already happened back when Idol got bought out. Globie could get folded into the mix if they consider their european ambitions a failure, but that is only gonna happen when the money starts running out.

Edit: Visual Representation (Chart is WIP)


What happened yesterday was MateReal (which manages Palette Project), Brossom (which manages Libon, Flill, Cilq, Viollet and Lux) and ENILIS (which manages Harevare, Uniraid and Vlash) getting merged, their agencies didn't merge, only the bureaucratic backends.

The merger of brossom and ENILIS was obvious, brossom didn't really have any reason to keep existing when their factory farm style model is identical to ENILIS', their merger was only a matter of time. The reason these things are done is to remove pointless companies and duplicate positions that could just be filled by one guy not three.

In broad terms V4mirai isn't worth that much to Brave anyways, if I were to spitball a scale of importance it would go:
1. VSPO
2. Neoporte
3. Riot Music
4. HimeHina
.
.
.
50. Idol
.
.
.
80. V4mirai
.
.
.
400. Globie
.
.
.
1000. Everything else

The sheer value of VSPO (number 3 corpo in the industry) and Neoporte (number 5 or 6 corpo in the industry) vs some random small EN corpo smaller than phase is astronomical. VSPO is literally responsible for like 90% of views, CCV, popular recognition and merch sales Brave does (before Neoporte got purchased).

 

[Negronald Trump]

They aren't merging V4mirai and Idol, mostly because those two are already merged. Their shared managing entity is Brave US so their "merger" already happened back when Idol got bought out. Globie could get folded into the mix if they consider their european ambitions a failure, but that is only gonna happen when the money starts running out.

Edit: Visual Representation (Chart is WIP)
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What happened yesterday was MateReal (which manages Palette Project), Brossom (which manages Libon, Flill, Cilq, Viollet and Lux) and ENILIS (which manages Harevare, Uniraid and Vlash) getting merged, their agencies didn't merge, only the bureaucratic backends.

The merger of brossom and ENILIS was obvious, brossom didn't really have any reason to keep existing when their factory farm style model is identical to ENILIS', their merger was only a matter of time. The reason these things are done is to remove pointless companies and duplicate positions that could just be filled by one guy not three.

In broad terms V4mirai isn't worth that much to Brave anyways, if I were to spitball a scale of importance it would go:
1. VSPO
2. Neoporte
3. Riot Music
4. HimeHina
.
.
.
50. Idol
.
.
.
80. V4mirai
.
.
.
400. Globie
.
.
.
1000. Everything else

The sheer value of VSPO (number 3 corpo in the industry) and Neoporte (number 5 or 6 corpo in the industry) vs some random small EN corpo smaller than phase is astronomical. VSPO is literally responsible for like 90% of views, CCV, popular recognition and merch sales Brave does (before Neoporte got purchased).

Let me just say, many thanks token forum spic. I will make sure when you step into US soil my boys at ICE will handle your deportation with dignity and also not send you to El Salvador.