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kestraline

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Also did Frog just spoil an anime? :pikaWUT:
To be fair there are now three episodes of Oshi no Ko. People have had enough time to catch up by now.

Also, to nobody's surprise, look who surfaced in the chat, looking for a new chuuba to groom after Riifu got axed.
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Templeton

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electronic elephant

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Mahjong collab in 10 minutes.
Surely this will only go well. 🌈



 

Saturnus

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We can't have Ami and Ami(ya). They're going to have to fight for the name rights.
Frog wanted to be referred to as Amiami.
Also, to nobody's surprise, look who surfaced in the chat, looking for a new chuuba to groom after Riifu got axed.
Gabe better back the fuck away from the tomboy guitarist.
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BlueSharkTV

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Ayame is going to slide into fauna's DMs, but first she needs to learn some basic bitch english.
 

niggaphil

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Mahjong collab in 10 minutes.
Surely this will only go well. 🌈




A bunch of Seiso Phase Connect girl won't try to fuck it up, right? right?
What could possibly go wrong?? :whatastory:

Joke aside, i think only Airi is the only one that could be considered seiso, and the rest:
- Tenma: Swearing like there is no tomorrow :tenmayourmom:
- Pippa: Always want to do a Walmart drive-by Shooting :sakanapleasepippa:
- Lia: Menhera and telling 41% to go and kill themselves
 

CalciumAnimal

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how would you like to become Calcified Superduper I cannot imagine a more terrible fate.
According to Koe's stream on Youtube (yesterday) no other company had approached him and asked him to react to a debut. Not sure if money was involved (as he should clearly label it a sponsored stream or he risks fucking himself and his channel over).


She basically admitted to being slightly autistic and having ADHD. She was one of us.
I really don't understand why people get so mad about "coomer" tactics. It works it makes money it takes time and effort (arguably more then just free talking it) has harsher restrictions (because the prudes) if you want to flaunt what you got go for it supply demand.

I can agree with it to some extent when they then go on to be annoyed at their fanbase for being vapid and horny or just gross in general (you cultivated it) but Rifu at least as far as i know hasn't done any complaints about the consequences of said style.

To be completely honest, I never liked riifu being in this space.
I'm still all in favor of whoring out and despise moralists because essentially they're just finding a higher motive to restrict another person's liberty (so you can still be sure that you won't be agreeing with me on lots of things) but I also believe that, as a wise man said decades ago: "There's a time and place for everything, but not now".
Even Melody, the OG camwhore vtuber, separated her content more clearly than Riifu did, and her influence on the group made me stop caring about Eien because when I'm watching variety vtubers I like that sex is treated as a joke, if I wanna have a wank I don't go on youtube or twitter.

Of course i type all that out and theres already a explaination. I do disagree though you go where the money is and I can't blame Rifu for her content if it works. Ill blame youtube for allowing it in the public space. as prudish of me that is.
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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To be fair there are now three episodes of Oshi no Ko. People have had enough time to catch up by now.

Also, to nobody's surprise, look who surfaced in the chat, looking for a new chuuba to groom after Riifu got axed.
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NO SHAME
NO CLASS

I almost felt sad for the fucker after his response tweet

NEVER TRUST LE COOMERINOS
 

El Rrata

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Faceless Waifu

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IRyS with a Glock? If only there's a cosplayer willing to cosplay as her and if only I have the foresight to buy a Glock-shaped airsoft gun.

I do not like how that gun looks.
I took a look at it and realized that its beyond saving. Stock looks too chunky, the receiver doesn't have anything that screams "actual assault rifle", the magazine is too far away from the trigger, WHAT IS THIS THAT SHE WANTED?!

It's like Saruei just openly stating "hon hon, sacreblue i don't know how to hire someone who can draw a gun except for le famas hon hon", fucking frenchie I SWEAR
 

Hff201

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I don't mind sex workers in the slightest, I think it takes a lot of mental strength to put oneself through that, especially if they're a full-on outcall/incall escorts because the threat of a fucked up John is a constant. That said, I kind of feel like doing sex work adjacent content as a vtuber is maximized cowardice in trying to have your cake and eat it too, in the sense that they're trying to reap the benefits (attention, money) of sex work but being as much disconnected from their audience/'Johns' as possible, essentially offering nothing of themselves in the exchange. It comes across to me as leeching, and is significantly worse to me than camsite/fanhub girls pushing their nudie pics on every social imaginable because it's their only income source. This is a bit different of a situation if they're a vtuber but also push IRL sex content like, say, CottontailVA, because again at least she's putting something of herself on the table.

Though vtubing is an entertainment source I enjoy unironically for the weeb larping bullshit potential of having a retard fairy, a drunkard fox, a screaming hellbird and a sassy latina ghost screaming at each other over coloured cards with funny numbers. I like the cute and occasionally sexy designs for the eye candy (fuckin' Dona Park boyo, jesus christ almighty), but I sit through hours of stream content because I like the semi-stream of consciousness chatter about random things or community in-jokes. What I don't want to see rise is a presumption that there has to be a seedier side of vtubing because of all the cartoon whores out there selling anime pussy noises behind membership passes and/or making the entire industry/subject seem like some kind of weird sex thing. To the most emphatic point being, people like Riifu/DTL/exoe who already lent a hand in doing precisely that thing to ASMR either blatantly or a bit more subtly with less overt sexuality but still relying on deep necklines and camera angles to provide 50% of the content, and then carrying it over into vtubing where they basically conceal everything behind a model that they didn't even have to make themselves most of the time. I already feel half the time I can't talk about ASMR to anyone that doesn't already know what it is because if I clue them in and they go looking and find some shit like Little Clover Whispers and her giant fucking tits that could crush Canan from a standing position, pushing her own OnlyFans/Gumroad shit, it would all just seem like dumb coomer shit.

I just don't want to be in a situation where if I have to explain what it is I do in my spare time to some one and I say "Well have you heard of vtubers?", I don't want them to call the cops under suspicion of child endangerment.
Sex work of any form is fine (y'know, assuming everyone involved is a consenting adult), but whores need to go into it understanding they are permanently forfeiting basic social norms everyone else takes for granted, of both respect and safety. If your ability to arouse strangers is your product then it will be publicly reviewed and criticised like anything else. Calling someone a fat skank isn't appropriate in polite conversation, but when you're prostituting yourself either physically or virtually, you're no longer part of polite conversation, your very being is something that's bought and sold, you are an object, and people will treat you that way. You're also marketing yourself to a demographic with an above-average number of unhinged individuals - you're going to encounter dangerous Johns at one point, it's unavoidable. There will be a reason these people need to pay for intimacy. Some are just shy, or coping after a breakup, but others are covered in red flags so women who aren't paid to put up with them intentionally avoid them.

This includes vtubers who produce more provocative content. One-squirt-Kurt wouldn't be tolerated for long in most streamers' communities, but he is the target demographic for Yuko's lewd membership streams. Servicing people like him is part of the job. If you're okay with those terms then the only person whose opinion matters on your lifestyle is your own, but far too often I see young women go into sex work only to bitch incessantly about the negative consequences that were obviously going to occur.

As for the reputation of the hobby as a whole I think it's too late for that, and you just have to accept some people are always going to have a coloured view of it. Mainstream Twitch vtubers are probably the first example people will see, and if they're not particularly interested they're just going to generalise rather than look further. If people think I'm some kind of degenerate because I like listening to an autistic bunny girl ranting and arguing with her chat then so be it, I know what I am and what I'm not.

Just don't let Sakana know about your meme account and you'll be fine, Panko.
 

CalciumAnimal

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[- JUST FOR CLARIFICATION - WHEN VTUBERS GET "TERMINATED" IT DOES NOT MEAN I KILLED THEM -]
It means Proctor Gaogetter or you Killed them.

I didn't expect this place to become the gathering spot for vtuber serial killers but here we are.


Sorry for the extrapost missed this one in my group of replies
 

niggaphil

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Only 10 mins in Phase Connect Mahjong Stream, Tenma is swearing "Shut the Fu....... Up"
 

thhrang

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I assume the conversation about the Phase collab should be contained in the Pippaposting thread so that we don't clutter up this one.
 

Lurker McSpic

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Well there goes future sponsorships lmao
 

agility_

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Airi's Basic Valley Californian is so thick at times, I forget she is yet another korean on the vtubersphere.
 

Dirge

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I really don't understand why people get so mad about "coomer" tactics. It works it makes money it takes time and effort (arguably more then just free talking it) has harsher restrictions (because the prudes) if you want to flaunt what you got go for it supply demand.

I can agree with it to some extent when they then go on to be annoyed at their fanbase for being vapid and horny or just gross in general (you cultivated it) but Rifu at least as far as i know hasn't done any complaints about the consequences of said style.
I think it upsets me personally because I think it's generally bad content that relies on taking advantage of people's basest urges and because it's successful, it incentivizes people who would otherwise make better stuff to go and make degenerate garbage instead.

In other words, coomer stuff is to streaming as lootboxes/battlepasses are to video games. Why would you ever work hard to make something of excellent and long lasting quality when you could instead make just as much or more money for significantly less effort by selling sex?

That's not to say that it's impossible to make coomer content that is also compelling and worthwhile. That's also not to say that if you banned coomer shit then all of a sudden people like riifu would go off and become great artists of some sort or another. But still.
 

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