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I wouldn't say demand for vtubers is falling short of supply, I'd say the exact opposite, that the amount of talents on offer could be argued to be oversaturated. Nearly all vtubers will have to have an second income source to cover their bills due to having small audiences and a limited income from streaming, and a new vtuber corpo can attract over a thousand applicants that are competing for approximately five positions within a gen, never mind an opening at a reputable vtuber corpo with a good track record.
I'm not talking about Vtubers I'm talking about freshblood who are willing to try Vtubing and I mean actual honest attempts and not Twitch whores who want more money.

Who was the last person who was genuinely a newcomer? fucking Fillian???? I'm sure there are others out there but I think the point stands regardless.

Justice is a good wave but as an example they all already existed elsewhere.
 

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I'm not talking about Vtubers I'm talking about freshblood who are willing to try Vtubing and I mean actual honest attempts and not Twitch whores who want more money.

Who was the last person who was genuinely a newcomer? fucking Fillian???? I'm sure there are others out there but I think the point stands regardless.

Justice is a good wave but as an example they all already existed elsewhere.
I don't follow all the one and two-views, but there's always new vtubers debuting all the time, if you want fresh talent. For Phase Connect, I am pretty sure that Eimi and Hina had never done vtubing before joining Phase Connect, and Runie had been a vtuber for less than a week. I'm sure other people know of fresh talents that have become vtubers in other corpos. If you want to say that no new talent is getting in to the industry, you should spend more time looking.
 

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I don't follow all the one and two-views, but there's always new vtubers debuting all the time, if you want fresh talent. For Phase Connect, I am pretty sure that Eimi and Hina had never done vtubing before joining Phase Connect, and Runie had been a vtuber for less than a week. I'm sure other people know of fresh talents that have become vtubers in other corpos. If you want to say that no new talent is getting in to the industry, you should spend more time looking.
Dude i know reading comprehension is rare over there but at least try :smugpipi:

I didn't say no new talent I said that supply was not meeting demand. even only taking the big two into account they are already fighting for scraps and that's not considering Vwhorejo Phase and whatever other corpos are out there.

and let's for a moment forget all that and take your example at face value. Runie as talented as she is was the most recent example you could think of when she's been active for almost 2 years now?

Kinda implies that you should also look harder or B maybe there's something to what I'm saying that new talent is not nearly as common as it should be.
 

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isn't bint a SEAmonkey
Skimming through the monkey chick twitter, she seems to be european, self-proclaimed homeless & living in a van as she travels through sweden. Most of her pictures were in a place called Öland in Sweden

She also drove her van through this place

Which I located as the ifö center in Bromölla, Sweden, which is a 4 hour drive from Oland
So my money is not american, and she specifically picked monkey because she enjoys camping in the jungle.
I have very little reason to doubt that this backstory is all fake as the payoff is not worth the effort

Yes she is swedish which makes this extra funny. I was looking around and many indies I like vouch for her being a sweet girl on the grind for years. While I tried to check the vods for myself, most of them are sub-only on Twitch so it's hard to know at first glance.

Her previous model was even blacker:


I don't think she wants to expose herself but it would be extra hilarious if she was, in fact, black, child of immigrants/refugees/french.
Speaking of, she got a Shibe! From Saotome Nina or Ninaninin:


And that one magical girl will have her birthday stream today with a lot of new stuff and a whole new 3D model that signs to be really, really :nimicry:

 

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It's absurd how many "modern women" are not only utterly useless at basic survival skills but proud of it and I was running into thar when dating as far back as twenty years ago. I had to quickly filter women on domestic abilities. One on date 2 she asked what my favorite pie was and on date 3 she baked one for me, I'm still married to her.
very weird how hanging on holo twitter I feel old because I realise that many of them barely graduated high school, but being on this forum full of old people, I feel like a baby again
the average age on here seems to be closer to my parents age than mine, what do you mean people on here have been married and working for 20 years
 

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Dude i know reading comprehension is rare over there but at least try :smugpipi:

I didn't say no new talent I said that supply was not meeting demand. even only taking the big two into account they are already fighting for scraps and that's not considering Vwhorejo Phase and whatever other corpos are out there.

and let's for a moment forget all that and take your example at face value. Runie as talented as she is was the most recent example you could think of when she's been active for almost 2 years now?
What evidence do you have that supply of talents are not meeting demand, or that the applicants are "scraps", besides your own personal headcannon? I've not heard any complaints about the quality or work ethic of Hololive's last group, for example, which debuted nine months ago. There's not been any real drama attached to them, they seem to be doing quite well in terms of subs and donations. When does their "scrap" nature manifest, and what will that look like? Just for future reference.

"Why haven't you given more recent examples of new talents that have never been in the industry?"
Answer: because I don't give enough of a shit about other corpos and what they're doing to be read up on their talent's past-life information. If this is a concern to you, you can always look up new talents and two-views, or you could ask rather than just assuming that no-one hires fresh talents. We just don't talk about them here because we already have people we watch regularly, it doesn't mean they don't exist.
 

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Varium's Suzutsuki Sui is showcasing her 3D model.

Genmate Komai Ume still doesn't have hers so she's there as a black ninja with a paper as the face.

VSai SF6 grand final is on now. I'm watching VSpo's Kokage Tsumugi who just won against Kaga Sumire with a sliver of health left.

Tears of joy and happiness, her first win today and it's in the grand final. Kisaragi Ren is the MVP this tournament for me, lots of clutch moments for the team.
 

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Yes she is swedish which makes this extra funny.

I've universally enjoyed the Swedish & Dutch vtubers I've encountered. My plate is kind of full enough at this point I can't justify adding another vtuber to my watching list, but what I've seen of her is already good.
 

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I've universally enjoyed the Swedish & Dutch vtubers I've encountered. My plate is kind of full enough at this point I can't justify adding another vtuber to my watching list, but what I've seen of her is already good.
How long is your groomingwatching list anyway?
 

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Nothing will be funnier than SJW's making up racist narratives in their head for something and in turn showing off how racist they actually are. A normal person wouldn't try to co-relate her having dreads and being a monkey vtuber to be racist against black people lol.

When the D&D Orcs and Tolkien Elf discussions get the insane ones crying they're racist depictions, the move was utterly humiliating the people making the claims. If you see a greenskinned giant humanoid with a tradition of honor and think "that's Black coded!", I lack words to describe how racist the soul of that person is.
 
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How long is your groomingwatching list anyway?
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Let me tell ya, his autistic rants are longer.

Edit:
The Rec Room is currently fairly quiet overall. I've been looking through my personal archives and realizing I have a large amount of stuff saved that is technically here on the forum, but not well-collated in any one spot. I've chased up a few leads recently, and I think I'm going to start compiling things together into a list of the vtuber fans and wannabe-vtubers out there who have a history of being extremely toxic to the medium. Right now they get covered semi-often in things like Kuri Rinji's livestreams or other commentary channels, but that info is almost always hard to locate and parse as the events fade from public awareness. There was a brief attempt to do this quite a while ago, but I was too busy with IRL stuff to really contribute. However, I feel like it's as good a time as any to give it another go. So we'll see.
I rest my fucking case.
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The Rec Room is currently fairly quiet overall. I've been looking through my personal archives and realizing I have a large amount of stuff saved that is technically here on the forum, but not well-collated in any one spot. I've chased up a few leads recently, and I think I'm going to start compiling things together into a list of the vtuber fans and wannabe-vtubers out there who have a history of being extremely toxic to the medium. Right now they get covered semi-often in things like Kuri Rinji's livestreams or other commentary channels, but that info is almost always hard to locate and parse as the events fade from public awareness. There was a brief attempt to do this quite a while ago, but I was too busy with IRL stuff to really contribute. However, I feel like it's as good a time as any to give it another go. So we'll see.
 

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Doki got triggered by some tard talking shit that she resorted to numberfagging about how she's richer and more popular than he is and bragging about how rich you are just to win an online argument is fucking cringe as hell. Isn't she supposed to be a professional at this shit just block, report, and move on with your life but unfortunately most of the people responding to her are acting like this was some badass move
 
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What evidence do you have that supply of talents are not meeting demand, or that the applicants are "scraps", besides your own personal headcannon? I've not heard any complaints about the quality or work ethic of Hololive's last group, for example, which debuted nine months ago. There's not been any real drama attached to them, they seem to be doing quite well in terms of subs and donations. When does their "scrap" nature manifest, and what will that look like? Just for future reference.

"Why haven't you given more recent examples of new talents that have never been in the industry?"
Answer: because I don't give enough of a shit about other corpos and what they're doing to be read up on their talent's past-life information. If this is a concern to you, you can always look up new talents and two-views, or you could ask rather than just assuming that no-one hires fresh talents. We just don't talk about them here because we already have people we watch regularly, it doesn't mean they don't exist.
you have eyes right? New waves are composed of people switching from twitch/youtube/voiceacting/whatever and while that makes sense to a degree not to the scale that is being upheld.

of the 5ish companies worth looking at new blood is non existent which made sense when it was a new "job" but now that it's established it's all people from other markets nearly no up and comers .

No one said any of the new talents were bad except you. I never mentioned Drama either. Fighting for scraps is not literal leftovers you mongoloid.

IT suggests the industry is stagnating you need new blood even if they suck ass.

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Then how the fuck do you know im not watching microcorpos for new talent? dumbass Either you watch enough of them to make the argument that i'm blind / biased / a lazy fuck or you don't watch the corpos enough to know in which case you assumed i was pulling it from my ass in which case :tenmakys:.

Oh and just to be clear. My source is looking at join dates and looking for how long their PL was active. that's it I did not in fact go any deeper. if you wanna say not good enough whatever.
 

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Doki got triggered by some tard talking shit and resorted to numberfagging about how she's richer and more popular than he is and bragging about how rich you are just to win an online argument is fucking cringe as hell. Isn't she supposed to be a professional at this shit just block, report, and move on with your life. Unfortunately most of the people responding to her are acting like this was some badass move

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