General Thread v4mirai: Brought to you by Brave

[CalciumAnimal]

That's kpop

Yeah and she still raps in it? (because for some reason Kpop is 90% rapping instead of anything distinctive)

Honestly i think the last actual song that Kpop produced was Gangam Style which Low Bar cleared at least wasn't constant verbal bragging about how great he is even Chimera does this.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

On the contrary, I'd be pretty happy and the rest of the Pippa thread would be too.

After migo'ing over 1000 pages of the Pippathread, I am fairly convinced the Pippathread deserves @Realticule

 

[NeneLOVE]

LET ME EXPOSIT TO YOU ALL WHY I FUCKING HATE BRAVE
You remember brossom? That agency brave bought not too long ago?
Well they have five fucking agencies under them, a couple have dozens and dozens of chuubas listed on their sites, so I chose the smaller ones to start off with an easy win and a taste of how these shitters operate.

These things are not FUCKING SMALL.

This is what the vtuber wiki has to say about these corpos' sizes:
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"Oh 6 and 7 vtubers" you might say "that's not that much!". But you'd be surprised that those are only the ones LIST ON THEIR SITES.
But oh no! Curious little Nenelove had to go and scrape their entire fucking twitters to find out just how deep the shit went and TA-DA!
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Turns out it isn't less than ten for each, it's more like two DOZEN. The green dots are for the guys actually listed on their sites, the red and orange dots are the only people they have publically canned, everyone else is *shrugs shoulders because I don't have a japanese phone number to check their iriam accounts*. Viollet actually has drafted almost double the amount of "trainees" but these guys don't even get anything more than "So and so bad machine translation name joined as a trainee".

And it also turns out that Brossom has their own version of the Harevare spam machine called "Libon" so I guess I'll despair when I have to deal with that.


I am starting to believe Nexas Harry was honest when he said these kinds of agencies are a thing in japan because they all act very much the same: Spam vtubers which only get announced in one twitter post, vtubers stream in some shitty platform nobody uses, vtubers routinely participate in weird competitions or contests, a lot of the time they get canned or just quit and the agency doesn't even announce it.

I shouldn't have complained....


We up to 107 and I still have the two largest ones left

 

[RestlessRain]

I shouldn't have complained....

We up to 107 and I still have the two largest ones left

God gives his hardest charts to his most autistic chartmakers.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I shouldn't have complained....
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We up to 107 and I still have the two largest ones left

>Nenelove about to finish his chart
>Brave: We have just finished buying up another random Japanese corporation with dozens of talents they don't even list on their website

 

[Superduper Samurai]

I shouldn't have complained....
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We up to 107 and I still have the two largest ones left

Odds are one of these people is someone's kamioshi and that is both sad and funny

 

[Lee Crabb]

Team Idol (featuring LIA) POV

 

[NeneLOVE]

>Nenelove about to finish his chart
>Brave: We have just finished buying up another random Japanese corporation with dozens of talents they don't even list on their website

Odds are one of these people is someone's kamioshi and that is both sad and funny

I have to say these factory farm style corpos are some of the saddest fucking things I have seen come out of this industry. It is pure fucking greed min-maxxed by pieces of shit who couldn't care less about the passion, effort or soul of the medium.

They are literally built to extract as much profit for as little effort as possible, treating their talents as fully disposable as any time one retires another one takes their place like some assembly line. It is the human wave approach to vtubing which would absolutely kill this industry if it was actually effective at swaying viewers.

Idk how these bastards ever convinced brave to buy this empty, worthless fucking skinnerbox of a corpo which takes any random wide-eyed person online and gives them some avatar so they can go compete for the same meager handful of viewers in some dead end website made by techbro scammers. This shit is worse than working at some god damned call center because there you might actually get a stable income.

Tell me all you want about western microcorps but unless the talents were raped by the CEO I think small corpo chuubas have it DAMN EASY compared to this dystopian bullshit.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

I have to say these factory farm style corpos are some of the saddest fucking things I have seen come out of this industry. It is pure fucking greed min-maxxed by pieces of shit who couldn't care less about the passion, effort or soul of the medium.

They are literally built to extract as much profit for as little effort as possible, treating their talents as fully disposable as any time one retires another one takes their place like some assembly line. It is the human wave approach to vtubing which would absolutely kill this industry if it was actually effective at swaying viewers.

NEXAS was really one of the most entertaining micro-corpos ever, i honestly dont know what was the funniest thing about it, i think the guy who just used his real name and nobody telling him "no" was among the best bits.

 

[agility_]

I shouldn't have complained....
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We up to 107 and I still have the two largest ones left

Man why do you do this to yourself.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Man why do you do this to yourself.

The hate I have reserved for myself greatly exceeds that which anyone else on this green earth could ever muster.

 

[I Wanna Die]

Why is there 3 pages of general in the past hour? What's burning down now?

Oh the Jew broke containment again...

 

[John Vtuber👁️]

so how long until Brave inevitably follows the Battle Royale format and pits all of their top-earners against each other, until they forcibly manufacture the next Gura Killer, no matter how many are chewed up and spit out in the process?

(they will not be able to accomplish this, it will only end up in mass burn out and a churning of talents like nothing else)

 

[NeneLOVE]

so how long until Brave inevitably follows the Battle Royale format and pits all of their top-earners against each other, until they forcibly manufacture the next Gura Killer, no matter how many are chewed up and spit out in the process?

(they will not be able to accomplish this, it will only end up in mass burn out and a churning of talents like nothing else)

They wont
All of their different corps are for different purposes:
Idol/V4mirai targets EN market
Globie targets europe
Pallette targets idol niche
Riot targets the vsinger niche
VSPO and Neoporte target FPS/esports niche
Enilis targets the shitty iriam niche
Astars targets thai market
Brave china targets chinese market

None of these have the same purpose or direction, they basically have a hand in every conceivable pie to see if they can take over any of them, which they have arguably done with the eSports niche now.

 

[John Vtuber👁️]

They wont
All of their different corps are for different purposes:
Idol/V4mirai targets EN market
Globie targets europe
Pallette targets idol niche
Riot targets the vsinger niche
VSPO and Neoporte target FPS/esports niche
Enilis targets the shitty iriam niche
Astars targets thai market
Brave china targets chinese market

None of these have the same purpose or direction

yes, but what if number could go up?

 

[BioBreak]

Not having any cavities after not going to the dentist for 10 years, eating sweets and smoking. I believe the nation of Japan owes Raden a meritorious medal award.

It's gonna vary for everyone. If you religiously floss and brush your teeth, you'd likely be able to get away with minimal damage - at best, a few cavities and some nicotine stains a deep cleaning should be able to take care of, at worst maybe a case of gingivitis and some other gum disease.

Yeah and she still raps in it? (because for some reason Kpop is 90% rapping instead of anything distinctive)

Honestly i think the last actual song that Kpop produced was Gangam Style which Low Bar cleared at least wasn't constant verbal bragging about how great he is even Chimera does this.

Eh, that section in Chimera hardly passes for rap, if we're talking about it seriously. We had an entire two decades of mainstream western pop music since the 90s where a song would incorporate a rap bridge or two - either by the singer or a guest rapper. Anyone actually going out of their way to particularly sperg about a few rhyming schemes in a pretty much boilerplate pop song at this point is just being disingenuously nitpicky and not worth the time of day.

 

[Sankisei]

Team Idol (featuring LIA) POV

What are Shinri and Axel doing here?
I dont remember them interacting with Idol girls

 

[Hff201]

They wont
All of their different corps are for different purposes:
Idol/V4mirai targets EN market
Globie targets europe
Pallette targets idol niche
Riot targets the vsinger niche
VSPO and Neoporte target FPS/esports niche
Enilis targets the shitty iriam niche
Astars targets thai market
Brave china targets chinese market

None of these have the same purpose or direction, they basically have a hand in every conceivable pie to see if they can take over any of them, which they have arguably done with the eSports niche now.

I think this is also what will be the death of them. I'm convinced that eventually Brave's management will get some new blood who won't properly understand what they've walked in on, wonder why they bother managing and covering marketing expenses etc. for so many corpos who essentially sell "the same thing", and start haphazardly merging them together in an attempt to cut costs.

This happened to some of the YouTube MCNs back in the day after their parent companies started realising they hadn't just bought easy passive income machines and started rebranding and merging shit in desperation; and since VTuber corpos are significantly more personality and company culture-dominated than MCNs I could see it being even more disastrous.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

What are Shinri and Axel doing here?
I dont remember them interacting with Idol girls

Axel when he sees a ripe 2 view (and Shinri when he sees Axel)

 

[BioBreak]

What are Shinri and Axel doing here?
I dont remember them interacting with Idol girls

I was looking at HoloDex earlier and noticed Mia Melonya's upcoming stream listed among the Holos. Had to do a double-take about whether there was a Holo vtuber that we all somehow just missed.