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Need the Jitler fan art now
Keep them in your walled garden. We don't want your immigrants.BAHAHAHAH, LET'S GRADUATE GURA AND SEND ALL OF HER CHUMCONS TO PHASE! PLENTY OF UOOHH MATERIAL THERE!
They're undocumented, the Holo Enforcement National Territory Army's Infantry will throw them over the wall.Keep them in your walled garden. We don't want your immigrants.
Me: God, I hate the chumbuds.
Me: You know, maybe the chumbuds are alright.Also, apparently about 12% of Gura watchers are also Phase watchers.
Are any of the number autists watching if their numbers are different since they all got nuked? I feel like it would be pretty obvious to see the difference if they were botting before and probably wouldn't risk it anymore, especially on twitch.
I went on bad site out of curiosity, this was probably the post that got to her.
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A few replies snowballed from there with genuine callouts mixed in with the usual shitflinging (up until the board blatantly got raided by her discord and instantly declined in quality), it was more constructed than I was expecting which makes me believe there's been some discontent brewing for some time. The main point being made is that she's completely changed from how she was as Kilia and some of her actions in the months since her graduation.
I only loosely followed Kilia/Ekko on twitter for songs and the main difference I noticed was how she used to be innocuous and sweet in her replies as Kilia, and now leans into exhausted yuribait as Ekko (clearly a side effect of moving over to twitch).
Here's a few more posts from the thread that point to said actions:
It seems hard to gauge how much she's actually changed considering she hasn't even debuted, so this could just be down to one or two disingenuous schizos presenting events worse than they are, someone more tuned in with her content than I would have to verify. From the surface she presented a cleaner image as Kilia: the one non-collab Ekko clip is about her shitting herself, and her fixation on sucking ass in one of the tweets makes me think she's either unwittingly injecting her fetish as awkward "jokes," or more nobly, laying the groundwork to become the first vtuber ambassador to India
As for her comments on vshojo: someone as talented and praised for their singing as Kilia should be above getting involved in twitter slapfights and being offended on other people's behalf, especially when the accusations are so benign. She would do well to keep Discord at an arm's length too, it continues to be the demise of any content creator's public image.
As the resident Kilia shill of the forum (I only found out about this site because /vt/ didn't have a PL of hers to point me to and I'd hoped the so-called "doxx site" might have more information) I'll give my unfiltered schizo opinion. Her content as Ekko does feel noticeably different from Kilia to me. She'd always been the "peepeepoopoo VTuber" and had a bit of a degenerate side, but I think she was far more seiso as Kilia than she is as Ekko. Somebody has convinced her to try streaming on Twitch and for some reason she listened to them - half or so of her predebut content has been on Twitch. She seems to be dialing up the degeneracy in her pivot towards being a Twitch VTuber (more aligned with VHoesho) compared to when she was Kilia (more aligned with Hololive). As Kilia her oshis were always in Hololive, specifically Kiara, so I'm not sure what is behind this pivot unless it's brainworms because she read somewhere that Twitch is better visibility for indies. Unfortunately, her Discord has turned into a huge hugbox and she has DMs and Maros disabled, so really her only avenue for criticism is the bad site (she's literally complained about negative comments on her YouTube to her Discord and had them affirm to her that she is super awesome and can't do anything wrong, which is why I don't include YouTube here).
Content-wise she obviously is pre-debut and so doesn't have a ton of content available yet, but she has posted 3 ~10 minute ASMR videos on ko-fi (one of which cost $5.00), a ~10 minute ASMR video on YouTube, and one ASMR stream on Twitch. Compared to the ASMR she did as Kilia, it's a pretty big downgrade in my opinion. The old ones were generally longer, not paywalled (except for roughly 1/month that was member's only but obviously came with other member benefits), and higher quality as the current short ones are all very gimmicky to me. She's also had a couple collab streams, including the British Stardew Valley group she was involved with as Kilia. These have felt okay, but you can tell she's not used to being the bat yet. The other one was Elia Stellaria's big Audience Anarchy stream. I hate big collabs like this so I'm a bad judge, but I don't think she performed as well here as she did as Kilia during big VSMP collabs. I always used to think she was the star of the show in big collabs like this, but the only standout for me in the Audience Anarchy stream was Specialite's Elyza .Eve.
On a personal level, I don't like the changes. I strongly prefer YouTube and Hololive to Twitch and the indie/VHoesho scene on that site, and worry that if she is even considering changing platforms it could signal a change in her content. She's on record saying to talk to her directly if you have worries about the platform change, but with no means of communicating directly with her you're left with the handful of us who have expressed concern in the discord - which as far as I'm aware she's never responded to. Anons are definitely justified in pointing this out, as well as pointing out how she's been constantly moving in a negative way (originally she wasn't going to have a discord, then she was going to make one just for announcements, then it would include a chat channel but she wouldn't post in it, then she would just occasionally post, and now she has 2.5k messages posted). Additionally she's chosen some pretty controversial mods, including Pr*spect Th*orist who my sources tell me bought his way to a moderation role in EIEN, and is rumored to have done the same to other indies/small corpos.
Kilia was my first and only oshi (and I've been a lurker since the Holofantasy days), but I absolutely would not blame anyone for hesitating before following Ekko. I was fully committed to supporting her as she chased her "dream" (which as Kilia she stated multiple times was standing on the same stage as Kiara), but have reservations about her identity as Ekko. Don't get me wrong, I'll still be there in her debut stream and whatnot, but I can't yet put Ekko in the oshi category with Kilia.
Thank you for this rundown, i hope you keep us informed. Her decision to pursue the twitch/Vshojo strat doesn't make sense to me if see wants to emulate Kiara as i fear the most likely stage in that future has a stripper pole on it. I hope this is due to someone whispering in her ear rather than he lying about her goals as Killia.
Muyu doesn't stalk people (anymore), she just checks out profiles and their content if she ever sees her oshimark.
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She could be among us...
John Vtuber👁️
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Nah, that never happens
That's what the imposter would say...
Gura has stated on a couple occasions that she doesn't have mods, and has several times stopped what she was doing to ban people herself. Chat is such a fire hose that it's easy to miss stuff.
Yeah, NHS has "free" dental, but the wait times are long. Even for a simple cleaning.
I can tell you why there is always a content shift when transition from youtube to twitch, it actually happens even in Hololive.
It all boil down into 1 word "thumbnail". Content on youtube is usually locked into 1 game/category. Noone go out of their way to make multiple thumbnails for one stream.
Because you have to draw the thumbnail, you end up preplanning the entire stream as well, or at least the one game in it. That is why streams on youtube felt more "high effort" than streams on twitch. Because, well, there is already a barrier of entry. Every stream is a project. There is a beginning and an end.
E.g. for an outfit reveal stream you would plan thing from start to finish, ensuring you do exactly 1 hour of just outfit reveal, then you turn off stream. Meanwhile the same outfit reveal on twitch can be done in 5 minutes and said streamer can started playing game/go back to yapping right away and only stop anytime they felt tired rather than having a planned ending time.
Not saying there isnt any project orientated/high effort streamer on twitch. But they are a very rare species. It is very easy to press go live on twitch and treat streaming on twitch as "daily activity" rather than "planned projects".
This even apply to Hololive & Nijisanji as well, someone like laplus/kanae would save collaborations and projects for their youtube channel, meanwhile they wake up, press go live and open valorant/league on their twitch channel.
for the hoe-fication, I guess it is way easier for chat to condition their streamer on twitch because it is a much more interactive platform. Once a streamer experience instant reward for being a whore they will do it again, like training a dog. There is a bit more sense of distance on youtube chat and people dono way less on youtube
When Shondo screamed at the top of her lungs during her drunken stupor that all vtubers visit the boards she wasn't fucking around.
If you're a vtuber reading this, many already said it but:
If you want honest feedback: open an anonymous form, throw it at your regulars and get it from people that watch you. Don't be a retard.
And if you want to massage your ego: yes, most viewers want to bang you, men are known for having no standards. Move on.
Why do this and have to actually reflect on themselves when they just could browse /vt/ and accept all positive comments while calling anyone who says something negative a schizo anti instead?
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