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[Hotdogs Aplenty]

Deranged women collab.

For once it isn't Bae over sleeping, it is Reine this time

 

[Calamity]

When you get paid for it, I'm pretty sure it is.
The smart move would be doing the contracted hours, end stream, wait 1 hour or so and announce a guerrilla stream with the content you want to do.

I assume it was sponsored then? Ya that context changes it a bit. Fumbling a sponsor is a pretty big deal.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Its controversial to swap games mid stream? How fucking low is the bar for drama in JP?

The controversy wasn't over that.

As always with all bullshit "dramas" like this one there's an underlying motive: A lot of people don't like the fact that 2 of the Flow Glow girls were somewhat successful idols previously.

The thing that people """didn't like""" about the stream is that she called liar's bar "boring", the people that already hate her twisted it into some allegation that playing the game with her viewers was boring and they used that to fan the flames of outrage against her. Nobody gives a shit about liar's bar or her comment, it's all smoke and mirrors just like the taiwan drama.

No matter how much she apologizes they will still hate her because the actual thing they hate is her, not her actions. In any Holo gen people always pick one person to generally hate, its a normal thing.

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

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[Zyklon Mag]

Ruze new outfit reveal!

Spoiler: Click Here For Fun Surprise

Get Homestucked :3c

 

[VSoyBoy]

Yes whatever contract kson signed with vshojo was done one day after her announcement.
Most likely contracts were signed around may or even earlier. Hinano didnt even stream on twitch then. She did stream on march to 1k viewers though
Also hinano is a pro-level esport streamer. She is more guaranteed audience on twitch than the normal vtuber.
Do you think vshojo kson can get 4k viewers streaming overwatch/valorant consistently on twitch?

"Twitch is irrelevant in Japan" - the third largest VTuber streams most of his hours on twitch
"But twitch was unproven for Japanese female VTubers when KSON signed" - Hinano had as high a CCV as most Coco gaming streams when she was announced
"But that VTuber is an esports streamer so that's different again for some reason"

How far do you want to take this? Let me just quote your original comment again so that we don't lose sight of how far we're backtracking already.

I really wonder what the fuck VShojo promised mikeneko/kson to get them to forfeit their careers in order to stream on their dead-end platform that nobody cares about inside of japan

 

[superduper]

All is right in the world. First Trump is in office, now my nigga Gumpai gets followed by a prominent plushie maker!

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[Azehara]

The Bitch Queen is back


And she STILL hasn't paid what she owes

Thanks for the reminder. 2nd year anniversary of her tweet should be coming soon.

I really wonder what the fuck iriam is promising these EN indies to get them to forfeit their careers in order to stream on their dead-end platform that nobody cares about outside of japan.

No clue honestly. Hazumi has been one of those really talented indies that seems to have never taken off.

Speaking of which, Sayu is going to be in Japan again soon hanging out with DN, Parrot and Rima.

Havent kept up on Sayu but she doesnt seem to be sadposting as much as she did a year ago. Hope she does have a good time with them over in JP. Maybe im being a huge femboy but I honestly want her to get to a point where she is just happy with herself and her accomplishments and stops thinking about Niji and how they fucked her over.

O ffs, you just take summer courses, or remedial programs and be done with it. One of the 58923 times I moved to a different school when I was a kid everyone was way ahead on algebra and I felt like a troglodyte for about half a year.
I do get a big laugh out of women claiming they want to major in psychology because "they just don't like math".

Women have a natural debuff against numbers. Oddly enough back in elementary school the girls had the better grades in math but as things started to get more complicated it feels like their brain just turns to mush when it comes to numbers.

The controversy wasn't over that.

As always with all bullshit "dramas" like this one there's an underlying motive: A lot of people don't like the fact that 2 of the Flow Glow girls were somewhat successful idols previously.

The thing that people """didn't like""" about the stream is that she called liar's bar "boring", the people that already hate her twisted it into some allegation that playing the game with her viewers was boring and they used that to fan the flames of outrage against her. Nobody gives a shit about liar's bar or her comment, it's all smoke and mirrors just like the taiwan drama.

No matter how much she apologizes they will still hate her because the actual thing they hate is her, not her actions. In any Holo gen people always pick one person to generally hate, its a normal thing.

Why do people give a shit about stupid crap like this? Its pretty sad and pathetic.

"Twitch is irrelevant in Japan" - the third largest VTuber streams most of his hours on twitch
"But twitch was unproven for Japanese female VTubers when KSON signed" - Hinano had as high a CCV as most Coco gaming streams when she was announced
"But that VTuber is an esports streamer so that's different again for some reason"

How far do you want to take this? Let me just quote your original comment again so that we don't lose sight of how far we're backtracking already.

I think you are using outliers. Sure there are some large JP streamers that also get huge numbers on Twitch but for the most part Twitch is not a platform that many JP people use. Honestly given how saturated Vtubers are in Japan, I wonder why more dont stream to Twitch to carve out a niche on that site.

 

[frz]

"Twitch is irrelevant in Japan" - the third largest VTuber streams most of his hours on twitch
"But twitch was unproven for Japanese female VTubers when KSON signed" - Hinano had as high a CCV as most Coco gaming streams when she was announced
"But that VTuber is an esports streamer so that's different again for some reason"

How far do you want to take this? Let me just quote your original comment again so that we don't lose sight of how far we're backtracking already.

UH the original goal was vshojo stacked cash to recruit kson/mikeneko and so are IRIAM doing the same to recruit people to stream on their platform. Thank you for quoting 1/4 of my messages and taking it out of context I guess.

Sure you can keep thinking kson chose Vshojo because she wanted to be on twitch and she believes on the platform and that will be her best carreer move to jump off youtube. She also went through a normal audition and Vshojo didnt give her a single dime because small indie company

Surely mikeneko did the same by becoming nazuna. Surely nazuna wasnt a dead-end and mikeneko never moved back.

Sure all the IRIAM streamers believe in the growth of their platform and are willingly signed to IRIAM without money involved.

Im not arguing with this goalpost and nitpicking ability anymore. You are far superior at it than I am. You won.

 

[nooternun]

Was it due to that one time she switched game mid-stream? Is this also the reason she is the lowest-subbed Flow Glow member? I remember Su having lower sub than her right after debut but she has surpassed her.

So my understanding is that how she switched the game is the issue

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/1gpqswq/riona_archive_of_todays_liars_bar_stream_set/

That tracks with how I understand JP viewers. As far as JP anti vs EN anti, well I don't remember any EN anti campaigns that have ended a large vtubers career. I know multiple JPs though.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

All is right in the world. First Trump is in office, now my nigga Gumpai gets followed by a prominent plushie maker!

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KUSA NO DON'T FALL FOR IT, IT'S A PLOY

 

[Xuhle]

All is right in the world. First Trump is in office, now my nigga Gumpai gets followed by a prominent plushie maker!

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Seems someone needs to be beat out back to realize she just trying to play it up again before crashing harder.

Gumpai woke up this morning and seemed to have choosed have a new melty.

Spoiler: Gumpai melty

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[Lee Crabb]

Lia...


It was FFXIV Yaoi.

 

[VSoyBoy]

UH the original goal was vshojo stacked cash to recruit kson/mikeneko and so are IRIAM doing the same to recruit people to stream on their platform. Thank you for quoting half of my quote and taking it out of context I guess.

Sure you can keep thinking kson chose Vshojo because she wanted to be on twitch and she believes on the platform and that will be her best carreer move to jump off youtube, where most of her fanbase was. Surely mikeneko did the same by becoming nazuna. Surely nazuna wasnt a deadend and mikeneko never moved back.

sure Hinano streaming to 4k ccv after she was signed and Kson have the future sight to see it. Props to her.

Sure all the IRIAM streamers believe in the growth of their platform and are willingly signed to IRIAM without money involved.

You won the argument congratulations Im the one moving the goalpost

You're making up arguments that I didn't even make. You said Twitch was and is a platform nobody in Japan cared about. That was my issue with your original comment and you've made up more and more qualifiers to somehow make it make sense.

I never said KSON signed with VShojo to stream on twitch. That would be a stupid claim to make since she both streamed on twitch before joining VShojo, with good numbers mind you so she would know there is an audience there, and she never stopped streaming on YouTube even after she joined.

But if you want to argue about that:
If VShojo paid them to stream on "their" platform which the Japanese don't care about at all, why did KSON stream on twitch before she joined? Why did KSON not stop streaming on YouTube? Why is Nazuna still streaming on twitch even though she left?

 

[USS IOWA]

Oh yeah the Sharp company visited Cover HQ today. A KFP themed T.V. or alteast a HoloEN T.V. when?

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[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

@frz @VSoyBoy

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

Cute shithead worm tries to convince youtube her channel is monetizable after 15th story about her forcing some fujo to erp with her when she was 14

 

[Sankisei]

-Numberfag battle-

You were destroying Vietfriend up until this point

Why is Nazuna still streaming on twitch even though she left?

It has nothing to do with numbers or Twitch being popular in Japan: its part of her BPD thinking that Nazuna is a completely different persona from the others so she will be always chained to Twitch while Mikeneko goes to Kick,Twitcast,Youtube,Tik Tok,etc.

 

[Zyklon Mag]

Ruze post new-outfit celebration stream. Now (hopefully) with 100% less Homestuck! He was clearly nervous but had a lot of creative bits in there (Every outfit prediction was explained as Wanted posters from fashion designers/artists who ALL sold him out to the govt, the magenta checkered missing texture chunks hiding his body disappearing bit by bit, the infomercial merch video, etc). Hope he has fun in Japan with Gibby.

Also outfit bits here.

Spoiler: Full Body Ruze

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

It has nothing to do with numbers or Twitch being popular in Japan: its part of her BPD thinking that Nazuna is a completely different persona from the others so she will be always chained to Twitch while Mikeneko goes to Kick,Twitcast,Youtube,Tik Tok,etc.

People will read this and think "hey that's just like my wife"