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[Zizara]

There is no way we can know exactly all that they knew at the time, but it was certainly more than what we know, even now. That said, everything I have talked about was known by the time Nazuna was announced, at the least.

Given how hard Kson walked back their association after the reveals, I doubt it. There'd be no reason for Kson to approach and put so much on the line for her in the first place if she knew that controversy was just waiting to break with a lot of people invested in seeing it happen - and Vshojo suddenly cut ties just a few weeks before the full extent of her behaviour hit the public too.
There had to be a lid on her behaviour somehow, it's not like Holo management would want to spread around how careless/malicious she had been and direct people to the company info that was now out in the open to find, and the most straightforward explanation is that her major mental breakdown wasn't until after her graduation. Rushia was terminated for leaking info, they tried to be professional about it and that was that, only for her mental state to rapidly decline and drag it all out into the open anyways, which since it's the most prominent thing about her now people associate it with the whole saga.

Yeah because we all know people on perfect mental health state write anti threads about their husband and write schizo posts about the private life of their coworkers to randoms on Japanese forums

You don't need to be crazy to be malicious, you know? That's just a bonus.

 

[Azehara]

Seems most likely it's Minto.

Jan 20th is coming up and if she's playing nice with a 1y non-compete it lines up perfectly. Vshojo have sniped talent basically the day these clauses ran out before.

There's no real info but as long as that's my guess.

It might be. That said i think it would be a huge debuff for her to stop streaming on Youtube though.

Inb4 bleeding heart Tara adopted the retarded purple white black man

Hope not. Can't stand that nigga.

It was the other way around: Kanata decided to move out of nowhere

Kanata moved when Mikeneko suddenly showed up on Vshojo. Sure it could be out of nowhere but I highly doubt it.

Kiara talks about meeting up with her manager PonMa in Japan and that most holoEN managers aren't Japanese.

Pretty sure it was leaked that most managers were from SEA (possibly cuz its cheaper to hire them from there).

Idk what to tell you man. She was caught leaking other talents' shit to dramatubers. Eliminating any possible risk of shit making it to her by accident makes complete sense to me.

I am willing to assume that she even used her fucking corpo account to directly DM said dramatubers.

 

[Willemshaven]

Ayame's punishment for losing to Korone during their Clubhouse Gmaes 51 collaboration is to read out embarassing lines.


Lui playing I Reported a Suspicious Person.


Chihaya playing Bibbidiba on a trombone.


Conversations between Suisei and tuki. during the first part of their karaoke collaboration.

 

[Negzana]

I'm wondering. Did Memory have a PL or did Sakana look for the first JP female fandead who was good at entertaining?

 

[Koronesuki]

Given how hard Kson walked back their association after the reveals, I doubt it. There'd be no reason for Kson to approach and put so much on the line for her in the first place if she knew that controversy was just waiting to break with a lot of people invested in seeing it happen - and Vshojo suddenly cut ties just a few weeks before the full extent of her behaviour hit the public too.
There had to be a lid on her behaviour somehow, it's not like Holo management would want to spread around how careless/malicious she had been and direct people to the company info that was now out in the open to find, and the most straightforward explanation is that her major mental breakdown wasn't until after her graduation. Rushia was terminated for leaking info, they tried to be professional about it and that was that, only for her mental state to rapidly decline and drag it all out into the open anyways, which since it's the most prominent thing about her now people associate it with the whole saga.

Kson had been gone for months by the time Rushia was terminated. Her source of information on what happened behind the scenes was most likely Mikeneko herself. The version of events that she was told may have been a bit biased.

You don't need to be crazy to be malicious, you know? That's just a bonus.

You don't need to be malicious to be crazy either, but the results may be the same.

Kiara talks about meeting up with her manager PonMa in Japan and that most holoEN managers aren't Japanese.

Pretty sure it was leaked that most managers were from SEA (possibly cuz its cheaper to hire them from there).

I would guess that one of the main requirements to be a HoloEN manager is being fluent in both English and Japanese. Most native Japanese aren't very fluent in English, so I'm not surprised that most of the managers aren't Japanese.

Never mind all of that. Listen to these words of wisdom from a wise squirrel:

 

[Negzana]

I just realized we're about to approach 3 years since Rushia was terminated. We're a year out from Mel being terminated. Time is flying too fast.

 

[Zizara]

Kson had been gone for months by the time Rushia was terminated. Her source of information on what happened behind the scenes was most likely Mikeneko herself. The version of events that she was told may have been a bit biased.

Kson was living with Kanata at the time, an arrangement that only (potentially, this is technically a rrat for how commonly accepted it is) became a problem once it was found she was associated with Mikeneko and going to join Vshojo together. To this day she still has friendships with a bunch of her former corpmates.
If Mike was even half as insane as she seems now and it was known by the other talents, there is literally zero chance the girls wouldn't have gossiped to each other about it.

 

[Kanna's Glowiest Assistant]

Serina's doing a zatsu after coming back from ALA and the Brave demonetisation

She's not sure how much she can talk about the matter, so she won't give details. The whole situation came as a shock but everyone's processed it now. She wants people to keep supporting V4 and the other affected groups, and keep petitioning Youtube. But she semi-jokingly asked chat how streaming on Twitch works for if the situation remains like this for long.
Also she's flat broke after the trip. SeriNo Money
And Wisu has been going at Yakuza Kiwami 2 for a while now

 

[Negzana]

Kson was living with Kanata at the time, an arrangement that only (potentially, this is technically a rrat for how commonly accepted it is) became a problem once it was found she was associated with Mikeneko and going to join Vshojo together. To this day she still has close friendships with a bunch of her former corpmates.
If Mike was even half as insane as she seems now and it was known by the other talents, there is literally zero chance the girls wouldn't have gossiped to each other about it.

IIRC the other girls just knew that Rushia was very distant and to herself. She didn't collab that much. I forget if Mikeneko has bipolar or borderline personality disorder but even with the Mafumafu testimony she comes off as paranoid and clingy and prone to flipping if she faced adversity. This could have been more tame when she was in Hololive because enough of her life was going well for her to hold in her mental illness. Furthermore, Perhaps the other Hologirls thought her screaming moments were just her playing up her character(?) and not something serious. I wouldn't be surprised if during the limited times of interaction she was in a good mood and didn't showcase her darker side. After she was fired she lost literally the greatest career opportunity she ever had and ever would have, mixed in with a very toxic divorce, and I wouldn't be surprised if she lost any ability to regulate the menhera already there.

 

[Moth Enjoyer V2]

Various activities of woman

 

[God's Strongest Wardog]

Archive

Nux has reached out to YouTube on Idol's behalf. It's gonna be so funny if his contact tells him in completely unambiguous terms that they were actually botting, because he's an unapologetic dramafag who will run his mouth if this backfires.

I know it won't happen but God, I would laugh my fucking ass off if someone in Brave/Idol would straight up reply to this parasite with "No thanks, we're good!"

Doki Announcement: She was added as an ingame cosmetic for the Synduality: Echo of Ada game from Bandai.

She will be showcasing the launch of the game and multistreaming on the 24th. She will be giving out a code during the stream to get the "Dokibird shirt" cosmetic.

I'm guessing Nijisanji won't be playing Synduality, huh?

Doki dealing with some high school mean girls drama again with the other streamers in the upcoming Twitch Rivals according to pre stream chat. All because of her team makeup, she brought in good players who aren't streamers or big streamers who helped her rank.

They're spreading rumors and trying to get her disqualified.
Staff has told her she will not be but it has caused her obvious distress.
Here is the current revealed lineup of rivals team, not all players revealed

Marvel Rivals Showdown on Twitch Rivals - Twitch Rivals

Taken from the bot in her discord.
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Excuse the other chatters being in the screenshot, bit of a rush job.

The weak should fear the strong.

 

[the red road]

Holy shit Gigi is way too obsessed with cookie run it seems to of gotten worse since the last time she streamed it

 

[The Proctor]

I hope Michi and Matara makes her comfortable enough to openly shit on Hololive because we need information right now and KSON hasn't been very vocal about how bad it was behind the scenes

This would be a dreadful idea even if Hololive was secretly a Nijisanji-level disaster waiting to happen. We don't 'need information' right now. What would we do with it even if we had it? Nothing, lol. Even when Selen was terminated, it was mostly Nijisanji who turned it into an apocalyptic reputational trashfire. If they'd stayed tight-lipped, Elira hadn't done that ridiculous black screen stream, and Riku hadn't groveled before the investors while conspicuously refusing to apologize to the woman he nearly killed twice, then it would likely have mostly blown over. It was a perfect storm of mismanagement and egotistical fumbling.

At the moment, Hololive has a massive reputational advantage over everyone else. KSON could come forward and say she was felt up daily by Yagoo and show the scars her manager inflicted during daily flogging sessions, and people would still mostly side with Hololive. There would be some outrage, but unless Fubuki did a blackscreen stream or something equally retarded, it would be flavor-of-the-month drama at most, and do worse to her reputation than Hololive's.

I personally think that Hololive has more skeletons in its closet. I think it might be emulating Nijisanji in more ways than people would like to believe. I think that going public is a cancer that will slowly but surely eat it away from the inside out. But that's just what I think. Until objective, verifiable evidence of that comes to light, nobody is going to do more than entertain these ideas as more than blackpilled rrats. And even if I was absolutely, 100% right in every way, what exactly would anyone here do with that information? Every single person on TVA could boycott all Hololive talents tomorrow, indefiniately, and the revenue loss for them would be mistaken for a rounding error. They aren't too big to fail, but they certainly aren't going to fail from anything less than a virtual 9/11.

 

[BioBreak]

I know it won't happen but God, I would laugh my fucking ass off if someone in Brave/Idol would straight up reply to this parasite with "No thanks, we're good!"

He already tried that before with Kiara when her channel got "banned" in 2020 and she pretty much gave a similar response:

Unfortunately, it looks like Nux deleted his tweet response pretty much presenting himself by offering to "reach out to his Youtube contact" and I don't think this was an interaction that merited being archived at the time.

 

[Negzana]

As a tribute to David Lynch, let's remember his greatest contribution to Vtubing

 

[God's Strongest Wardog]

Mint Lore?!

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Have you seen this sunflower hamuster?


My dumb ass didn't read that Nimi's debuting Friday

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

IIRC the other girls just knew that Rushia was very distant and to herself. She didn't collab that much.

A bit of an exaggeration. Pekora and Marine were clearly distraught when she was fired, and she was fairly close to Subaru, too, IIRC.

 

[Willemshaven]

Final Weapon interviews HoloAlt and HoloEarth producer Yuuki Oooka. Version 1.0.0 is planned to soft launch in Spring. [Archive]

Interview: Holoearth and hololive Alternative Producer Yuuki Oooka

Final Weapon had the opportunity to interview Holoearth producer Yuuki Oooka to learn more about the platform and its outlook in 2025.

finalweapon.net

The art director for Blue Protocol drew Kiara's avatar she had in the game. [Timestamp where she equipped the outfit]
[Archive]

Staff used Suisei's reasoning against her when she wanted a mistake during her Fukuoka concert get edited out.

 

[MerryKusa]

if those dogs are already pretending to be JP why not stream at JP primetime too?
What is this 4am bullshit

 

[JusticeDog]

Doki dealing with some high school mean girls drama again with the other streamers in the upcoming Twitch Rivals according to pre stream chat. All because of her team makeup, she brought in good players who aren't streamers or big streamers who helped her rank.

They're spreading rumors and trying to get her disqualified.
Staff has told her she will not be but it has caused her obvious distress.
Here is the current revealed lineup of rivals team, not all players revealed

Marvel Rivals Showdown on Twitch Rivals - Twitch Rivals

Taken from the bot in her discord.
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Excuse the other chatters being in the screenshot, bit of a rush job.

Am I misunderstanding it, or this whole drama just because she chose to use people who aren't content creators and not because she is try harding?

Why would anyone have such a big problem with that? I have to assume this must be being driven by some specific people who only joined the tourney for clout and are mad they won't get any if they play against a "nobody" without a channel.

It's the only way I can rationalize something this stupid.