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General Thread v4mirai: Brought to you by Brave

roktofferson

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It feels like Ironmouse only became a vtuber because it was her only option
pretty sure she's said this was literally why she streamed way back in the day.
 

The Proctor

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Brave also botted the shit out of the VSPO 3D debuts way back when. In that case it was live viewer bots. They had 80-100k live viewers in a chat that was the speed of a 2-8k viewer stream.

Is there any kind of record or relevant discussion of this from when it happened? I'm looking into this personally along with a few numbers autists and the circumstantial evidence is pretty damning. Stuff like channels whose owners stream maybe once or twice every fortnight consistently getting a hundred subs a day, etc. There's a lot of data there, just not all compiled into a proper orgy of evidence yet.
 

Willemshaven

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Clown Penis

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Can someone just make an AI of Proctor already or will I have to do it myself?
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Do you think this is actually a good idea?

This is some thhrangicule-level genius.
 

Sh4gg1

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Interesting choice of thumbnail Wose.


Shinobi senses are too accurate.

And she's streaming in 30.


Arya APEX
 
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El Rrata

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Minto building a zoo.


Animals being released to murder guests is likely to happen.
 

the red road

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pretty sure she's said this was literally why she streamed way back in the day.
It would explain why most of what I see of her it seems like she's trying to get the "cool kids" to be her friends
 

dumdum did nothing wrong

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Keep Lisa away from Phase. We already have Wemi and Dizzy for bad luck.
 

Svarog

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Daisy playing Minecraft


Biby drawing


Bossy playing Skyrim

 

Hff201

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I really do feel like this alleged Brave botting situation is the start of something big, since YouTube are already aware of drive-by bot trolling - there's a reason the Hololive girls don't get in trouble whenever /#/ anons bot them to fuck around. The systems are able to recognise what's happening, and they'll usually recalculate the numbers quietly when the revenue gets tallied up at the start of the next month. If the Brave channels are getting flagged then they're probably not using the same shady Indian "get a gorillion YouTube views now!" sites the trolls typically use, and they might've flown a bit too close to the sun with whatever they're doing to systemically inflate their numbers recently.

It's also very interesting that they're using the public pressure approach to resolve it, since that could backfire horrifically if any hard evidence of foul play comes out. If it turns out someone in the company's fraudulently boosting the channels while others are none the wiser then this could be an absolutely spectacular shitshow.

the other option would be to disable MCN mode and let everyone get their adsense until they fix their shit together
That wouldn't work in this situation since it's the demonetisation is happening on a channel level (meaning the individual affected channels can't be linked to any AdSense account at all), rather than on the MCN level. All they can really do for the time being is move to Twitch and/or shill their StreamElements donations more than usual.
 

Horo7618

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(At least so far) It looks like VSPO EN, which is in a separate subsidiary from Brave US, is not caught up in this wave of demonetization. I don't know if that's significant or not, but it doesn't seem to be affecting all of Brave.....
 

Lurker McSpic

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since YouTube are already aware of drive-by bot trolling - there's a reason the Hololive girls don't get in trouble whenever /#/ anons bot them to fuck around.
this is why I'm starting to think maybe is not viewbotting but maybe they were botting their memberships or something. Wouldn't memberships be a good way to launder money if people can pay with google cards or something?
 

I Wanna Die

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It's also very interesting that they're using the public pressure approach to resolve it, since that could backfire horrifically if any hard evidence of foul play comes out. If it turns out someone in the company's fraudulently boosting the channels while others are none the wiser then this could be an absolutely spectacular shitshow.
Tbf tweeting publicly about it is seemingly the only way for content creators to get these issues resolved in a timely manner even when the fuck up is obviously on youtube's end.
 

Smelliest007

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Minto building a zoo.


Animals being released to murder guests is likely to happen.

One of my childhood favorite games. Planet Zoo can suck my dick, less of a game and more of a dollhouse.
 

Hff201

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this is why I'm starting to think maybe is not viewbotting but maybe they were botting their memberships or something. Wouldn't memberships be a good way to launder money if people can pay with google cards or something?
YouTube's 30% cut's probably a bit too high to be practical for laundering really. If there's any financial fraud it'd be much easier to have bots generating fake ad clicks, but even then I'm not comfortable making that accusation without evidence.

What I do suspect they might be doing is boosting sub counts specifically to give their channels more presence - not so much for an algorithm boost since watch time and engagement metrics have much more influence on that than sub count, but to play into the "bigger number = bigger deal" side of human psychology. A streamer hitting subscriber milestones is celebrated in this industry; and if they hit big milestones much quicker than their contemporaries then they're going to catch people's eyes.
 

NeneHATE

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(At least so far) It looks like VSPO EN, which is in a separate subsidiary from Brave US, is not caught up in this wave of demonetization. I don't know if that's significant or not, but it doesn't seem to be affecting all of Brave.....
I am pretty sure all VSPO branches are managed by virtual entertainment, not brave US. This whole ordeal seems localized specifically on Brave US.
 

Cubanodun

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I figured out the solution. We place Lisa in a car alongside gura. We then tell them, from the outside, that they being together in that vehicle counts as a collab. After they finish, gura instantly graduates and vanishes off the face of the Earth.
 

Aquatic Novellite

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Apparently all Idol and v4mirai channels got demonetized for deceptive activity.
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Globie got hit as well

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They even got old queen jew Katta

I can't believe anime girls aren't real and are instead 3DPD whores deceiving their viewers into believing they're actually beautiful 2D ladies.
 

JusticeDog

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Playing the original XCOM :gurahalloween:
 
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