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General Thread v4mirai: Brought to you by Brave

God's Saddest Tattletail

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It's really interesting how Brave got singled out (I am a believer in the botting rrat) since other agencies' debuts look a lot more botlike than "gain 50k in a week and then drop off a cliff".
Honest question: which agencies are you referring to? Outside of some of the big names like Hololive, the recent V4M gen had some of the highest debut sub counts I've seen. Hell, they debuted with more subs than some Phase talents like Runie have to this day even though Runie absolutely slaughters them in CCV.
 

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I think its likely its just some stupid fuckup from Youtube and whatever AI nonsense they're using now. If a giant network like Brave was doing something serious like mass botting, they would have nuked the entire thing immediately or at the bare minimum banned them from uploading more content. It doesn't really make sense to only remove monetization if its something serious. Especially when this was something that started over a month ago with a few of the Idol girls, which would imply the rule breaking issue has been ongoing for a long time and would justify a full ban even more.:medsmoremeds:

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is all caused by Brave buying Idol and transferring ownership of so many accounts, triggering some fraud detection of some sort like if a mass hacking happened.
 

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Honest question: which agencies are you referring to? Outside of some of the big names like Hololive, the recent V4M gen had some of the highest debut sub counts I've seen. Hell, they debuted with more subs than some Phase talents like Runie have to this day even though Runie absolutely slaughters them in CCV.
Holo and Niji in their prime
 

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Idol also got a statement, Aviel getting the last laugh that this is not his mess to clean up

Archive

Can't get the V4Mirai statement to archive on ghostarchive properly either though
 

God's Saddest Tattletail

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Holo and Niji in their prime
For me these seem more organic just because they were the go-to agencies for so long (still ongoing for Holo). People have confidence that when Hololive announces a new generation every talent will be the best of the best and therefore they're more likely to sub with 0 information on the channel besides the presence of the little blue Dorito. Just anecdotal obviously, but I was subbed to all of Justice before they debuted and even though I don't actually like any of the talents enough to actively watch them I never went and unsubbed. There's no world, however, where I have enough confidence in V4Mirai to produce an entire gen good enough for me to preemptively subscribe to all of the talents.
 

NeneHATE

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For me these seem more organic just because they were the go-to agencies for so long (still ongoing for Holo). People have confidence that when Hololive announces a new generation every talent will be the best of the best and therefore they're more likely to sub with 0 information on the channel besides the presence of the little blue Dorito. Just anecdotal obviously, but I was subbed to all of Justice before they debuted and even though I don't actually like any of the talents enough to actively watch them I never went and unsubbed. There's no world, however, where I have enough confidence in V4Mirai to produce an entire gen good enough for me to preemptively subscribe to all of the talents.
I don't think youtube knows or cares about vtubers or vtuber agencies and which ones are big and which ones aren't, Holo still gets sub-culls almost every debut relay.
 

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Gura streamed Miside.

V4Mirai dies shortly afterwards via YouTube axe.

Simple as pie.
:guraimwatchingyou:
 

NotDecatto

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Isn't youtube doing you a favour?
Well technically nothing gained or lost on my side since that was a gifted membership I got during the Mirai Wonderland concert last month.
 

Willemshaven

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Mein niggas you're missing what's important in this debacle.
THERE'S FRESH MEAT TO POACH!!!:gloomiLaugh:
 

God's Saddest Tattletail

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I don't think youtube knows or cares about vtubers or vtuber agencies and which ones are big and which ones aren't, Holo still gets sub-culls almost every debut relay.
Absolutely fair. Just seems likely that YouTube has some sort of magic that tracks the accounts and sees "huh these accounts subbed to xyz channel are still actively engaging with YouTube even if they aren't still clicking on that channel" which from a non-YouTube perspective seems much more in line with Hololive's numbers than V4M's.
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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Unseiso Dragon

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I haven't shilled clips in a while so




Also Wemi uploaded a short video for you ojisans

The Master Duel perms are finally real. Pekora and Subaru are gonna battle each other in Yu-Gi-Oh next week on 1/23!
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The rules are:
  • Will build 3 decks over the week: A serious deck, a meme deck and a character-based deck.
  • After fighting with all 3 of them, whoever loses will have to take the winner to a card shop and buy them whatever card they want

Subaru confirmed she'll be streaming the game tomorrow to start building her decks, though she already has a Dark Magician deck as her main.
Finally, I'll get recommended vtuber master duel videos that are not from niggysanji…
 

I Wanna Die

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Gura streamed Miside.

V4Mirai dies shortly afterwards via YouTube axe.

Simple as pie.
:guraimwatchingyou:
If Gura's ability to kill combined with Phase's ability to deflect what would happen?
 

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If Gura's ability to kill combined with Phase's ability to deflect what would happen?
Gura joins phase and can decide who she's gonna kill instead of it being random. And any phase yab now reflects and it kills someone else too.
 

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Brave also botted the shit out of the VSPO 3D debuts way back when. In that case it was live viewer bots. They had 80-100k live viewers in a chat that was the speed of a 2-8k viewer stream.
 

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