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DogBone

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Your whole nation is cucked bro, I don't live in a country where getting raped by immigrants is mandatory :selenpointandlaugh: In twenty years Canada will be considered an asian country by demographics.
Only if Indians are considered "Asian," which they are, for some reason, in Europistan.
 

Nenélove

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Yeah, people typically run from third world hellholes, not move in. Why would they want to downgrade by moving to Tacostan when they can instead go to Maplevania and get handed free shit because we can afford to give away money and euthanasia to people? :smugselen: Maybe you should try immigrating, we don't have enough spics as it is. You can get your very own SEAwife as a signing bonus, god knows there's a fuck ton of unregistered women here, you'd fit right in squatting in a 3 room apartment subletted to 5 different families on a weekly rotation schedule.
Nah, I'd prefer to not get arrested for making an edgy joke or misgendering a landwhale, do tell us when your government mandated suicide comes though.
Living in a regular shithole beats living in a dystopian one, but hey! At least we ain't amerifats.
 

The Rratarded Alt

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Joined:  Dec 14, 2023
I think we might have been long overdue for a Cyberlive and Tsunderia summation. I can only speak with confidence about Tsunderia, and if i get anything wrong i welcome any-one to correct my writing, this is a overview/history of the company and what IMO led to it's collapse, i will not cover any interpersonal drama between talents. So without further ado i give you:

TSUNDERIA : THE CURSE OF THE CROWN

Our story starts in the worst place possible; Early 2020 Los Angeles California in the rented mansion of a Yu-Gi-Oh addicted Asian-American man going by the pseudonym of "PPP". In a flash of inspiration and with a small loan of 100k eddies (from his parents of course) PPP contacts his friend, future talent and manager Hoshino Charlotte and tells her "would you like to be paid to be a anime girl for a couple hours a week?"

Char agrees and together they form a Vtuber company, one of, if not the first US Vtuber company; Tsunderia. At first everything goes smoothly, a first gen consisting of Char, and two former Indies: Inukai Purin & Kamiko Kana. As Kana debuts in April 2020, she introduces her gen-mates and they soon follow up with their own debuts. Kana especially was quite popular and give that the EN boom with Holo Myths debut was still months away at this point thing were going well, even better than expected. Following the Myth debuts and the EN boom in September a new generation of Tsunderia Vtubers is launched in late November, consisting of four members; Nini Yuuna (who was an Indie for a whole two months before being scouted lol) Yazaki Kallin now Ember Aname Kirihime Ria (no link, accounts are scrubbed) & Matsuro Meru. So good so far right? first gen doing fine, and a new gen riding the tailwinds of HoloMyth. this gen was Gen 1 also called TsunQuest.

The first graduations

Something was rotten in the state of Tsunderia, and it wasn't just Kana's smell, and speaking of Kana she would graduate and return to Independent status the 4th of February 2021. Followed closely by the complete graduation of Kirihime Ria on the 4th of April. Now, Ria graduated to enter another bigger company who was just starting to seriously launch their EN branch, and she would come out of this smelling like Roses, but in the aftermath of Tsunderia we have learnt that she was encouraged to graduate for greener (though recent events paints it black) pastures by non other than a manager, and not just any manager a certain Umiushi Urara better known by fans as "Slugma". Slugma had just debuted as a Manager/Vtuber on the 14th of February, the timing possibly to distract from Kana leaving. We will see more from Slugma later in our story...

Moving on to Kana's graduation it had many reasons, discontent with PPP's "hands-off" running of the company (TN: hands-off mean doing fuck-all) rumours at the time implied Kana was being bullied by other talents, (this rrat lived on until Tsunderias dissolution) Kana generally being lazy with streaming, boyfriend yab, openly (in her discord) talking about milking her pay-pigs and of course fucking her dog. It would later turn out that the primary reason was indeed bullying, but not from other talents, but a manager/ the CCO, a certain "S-Train" PPP's friend and just generally a slimy groomer. S-Trains bullying would take the form of never responding to any request Kana had, or outright denying said requests. Neglecting to inform her of events, and misinforming other talents about Kana. Being PPP's friend made S-train
untouchable. And all this supposedly stemmed from S-train trying to get into Kana's pants, failing and this being his very pathetic revenge. He was fired after this came to light. Or was he?

So the cracks are beginning to show, two graduations, Kana being the biggest talent of the company, the CCO being involved in the worst kind of drama, a manager levied to fill the gaps in the ranks as a ersatz Vtuber. To fill the empty spot in TsunQuest the former MyHoloTV talent, then indie Miori Celesta got recruited, continuing the Tsunderia tradition of recruiting Indies into the company. Things started to stabilize again, Miori, despite any faults in her personality is a very talented singer and music producer, check the credits of Vtuber covers or orisongs, good chance you'll find Miori there, as an example;


Check the description for "Vocal arrangement"

The Cursed Founding

Gen 2 or TsunVerse went wrong from the start. the exact circumstances are somewhat shrouded in mystery but seemingly this gen would follow the same pattern as previous generation, some new talents and some Indies. But something happened to make the recruited indies drop out. The rumour is that TsunVerse was supposed to be "Tsunderia Noir" and the Indies were to be given new models but keep their old identities (sounds familiar...) We don't exactly know who would be on the roster but often cited candidates were Shimada Tiger & Seiryu Komatsu who both were seemingly preparing for re-debuts at the time then suddenly changed, Shimadas contacts with other former Tsunderia members are also taken as sign of this being true, as well as the face that Hoshino char would come to join Duskward together with Shimada and Komatsu. Whatever the truth may be, the fact is that something went terribly wrong and gen 2 was left with one, yes one talent; Amemachi Hanabi. And so as to not debut a one woman gen Orla Gan Ceann joined up as the second member, reportedly she did not want to be a talent, but agreed due to how sad it would be to let Hanabi debut all on her lonesome.

The Last Attempts At Relevance

Uncharacteristic for PPP and likely driven by the efforts of an increasingly desperate Slugma, 2021-2022 would see real signs of life and attempts to grow by Tsunderia. most notably closer cooperation with other second-tier EN vtuber companies, PRISM & Phase being the most notable. Among us SUS, some might remember this as the era of "small corpo unity", what with the joint Minecraft server and the combined Tsunderia/Phase booth at offkai in 2022.

But before offkai and the MC server, we had the last real generation of Tsunderia; Gen 3 or TsunDream. As PPP slipped further into torpor Slugam got more and more control over Tsunderia, and gen 3 was scouted by her, (and possibly Kallin/Ember) Slugma would commit one big mistake with TsunDream; i was a mixed gen of Men; Uzuki Tomoya & Tetsuya Kazune women; Chikafuji Lisa & Amiya Aranha & of course Tsurugi Nen who is very special and I'm not sure what she wants to be called at this point I'm too old for this queer shit.


Regardless of whether you're a Unicorn or Sister, a fag-basher or a homo-beggar i think we can all agree that the last thing you wanna do as a failing Vtuber company with many of your talents not regularly breaking 100 CCV is launch a gen that will filter people from the very beginning. Also noteable is that Hoshino Char had also taken on a semi-official manager role at this point, and she and Slugma pushed the boys in TsunDream to do BFE. this is something that Tomo has talked about afterwards how he wanted to be a D&D fighter (TsunDream had quite a bit of input in their models) but got overruled by Slugma and ended up a Bunny-Boy, lol, lmao, even.

Though being crippled from the start TsunDream launched to some fanfare, with an original song; (Hazy Hours -TsunDream) written,produced & performed by the TsunDream members, TsunDream being notable for all it's members being quite talented singers and musicians. And in November 2021 Tsunderia would open it's merch store. What's that? You're confused? you thought they had a merch store all along? Nope. not until well over a year from it's launch, and after three generations of Vtubers did Tsunderia get merch. Yes, this is exactly as dumb as it sounds. And speaking of merch here's one of the more well known scandals, being the spoilt princeling he is PPP would not deign to package the merch himself. This then fell upon the managers and talent living nearby, the talent living nearby being Chiiiiiiiiikafuji Lisa, so she got to serve as PPP warehouse worker while at the same time being enrolled in university and streaming regularly, very cool and fair PPP, very good business practise.

Most here know the previously mentioned MC server, where Lisa would befriend the toothless trailer park queen of Phase Connect, and well known proponent of "good paedophilia", our beloved Pipkin Pippa. And later at the Offkai expo Slugma in the flesh would be at the Tsun/Phase booth (having graduated the 8th of April), and several Tsun talents would have panels there; Mixing covers with Miori and Tomo And Amiya did Livelooping of music (no VOD for that one that i know). The offkai appearance would be marred by the fact that on the 8th of April Slugma graduated Tsunderia losing the one staff keeping things togheter and then... on the 15th of April founding member and part time manager Hoshino Char would graduate, and to make things worse, just days before offkai started the whole remaining line-up of gen 1 and Orla from gen 2 announced that they would be graduating immediately. This left Tsunderia with 7 members, the two outside of TsunDream being the only ones in their respective gens. Now rudderless and decimated Tsunderia was left in a state so pathetic i would not even call it death-throes, more like the spasms a corpse gets when you throw salt at exposed muscle.

It's Already Come And Tumbled Down, No Need To Even Play The Song

Hobbling along Tsunderia would spend the rest of 2022 doing a lot of nothing. gen 4 auditions were announced, Three new managers were hired, the only one of the mdoing anything of note was "Rei Daimonji" who seemingly had good report with Lisa in particular, and appeared one one of her streams; (LINK HERE) It was not until late in the year something started to seem off, talent had meetings they came back from saddened, and some of the discord mods left. now normally the sort of sub-human slime that would become a moderator leaving to die gracelessly in a ditch would be celebrated but just this once a disgruntled former mod took his frustrations to 4chan, after one of the then common discussion loops about secret inner circle discords came around, and this one mod wanted to disprove this; (his first post) (second post) (third and most important post containing proof of modship) In that third post is a list of bans;
while the funniest one is someone getting banned for talking about "coochie" in general chat, the important one is the one with the mod note mentioning "Bob" there was a "Manager-B" with an suspicious amount of power, being able to overrule decisions by all other managers. This is likely to be S-train under a new name, yes the same S-train that got Kana to quit. Now this seems real rratty i get it, but you might have seen the video of Ember playing FTL and venting about her exit from Tsunderia,
in it she confirms S-Train was still around after being fired;

If the piece of shit multi gazillion Eurodollar website known as YouTube gives you the wrong timestamp its' 2:11:00 - 2:12:00

Very good and cool yet again. so as January 2023 begins all is up in the air, and then first on January 20th, the remaining managers leave;

Just three days later, Purin graduates on January 23d;

And then...

It's over, not even with a whimper.
Exactly why It all shut down from this is a little unclear, probably PPP running out of steam (and possibly money) Running out of managers and Vtubers on the roster probably didn't help...

Gen Fourn't

Apparently Gen 4 was somewhat far along with a fitting four members; Juri Shima, Haewon The Heartstring, Yomi Cham & Maria Paradisia. Juri Being the only one to be new, and was given her model post-collapse. The exact circumstances of gen 4 are very strange, both Maria and Haewon implied being under NDA still, (i can prove nothing, any Haewon or Maria experts chime in if you know what is up.

And so ends our tale. And Tsunderia enters the annals of history in disgrace.

THE END

for legal reasons this is all fiction i invite you to do your own research and to add or correct as you see fit also this will take like a whole page for itself lol

One day someone needs to do a writeup like this and half way through just start filling it with nonsense and bullshit to see if anyone actually read the text
 

RestlessRain

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People will try to tell you that Tsunderia isn't back when Slugma, Purin, Kana, and Yazaki are all together in the same corpo and doing better than ever.
 

Stunned But Dumb

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This then fell upon the managers and talent living nearby, the talent living nearby being Chiiiiiiiiikafuji Lisa, so she got to serve as PPP warehouse worker while at the same time being enrolled in university and streaming regularly, very cool and fair PPP, very good business practise.
The only constant in this world is that Lisa must suffer. Why?
 

RestlessRain

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Murrayしないで

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I think we might have been long overdue for a Cyberlive and Tsunderia summation.
Absolute banger of an effortpost. Thank you. It's always interesting to see how much drama can be traced back to this one corpo and how often we still see its names resurfacing here and there (for example, Amemachi Hanabi and Maria Paradisia were supposed to be part of AkioAIR's second gen).
 

Sankisei

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Joined:  Feb 23, 2023

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Good writeup Porean, for someone who didn't know much of the Tsunderia deeplore it was very informative :shubaIapprob: I just have one question:

and of course fucking her dog
Clock and goob me and all that, but did she really? I'd assume this is just a joke I'm not in on, but after vomit drawers and piss soda I would never put it past a vtuber to do something disgusting and abhorrent.


Korone Huh

Korone leaning in and going "huh?" would make for an excellent smilie, just saying :mitothink:
 

Stunned But Dumb

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Joined:  Jan 29, 2023
Scarle and Aster are having a Pet Tier list stream in about an hour-ish


I'll be straight up, it wasn't on either of their schedules which isn't a bad or a good thing



but it is an interesting thing to note considering the earlier discord pic.

Also, Shiina is streaming about Ultraman in an hour and a half which is going to be rad
 

Abomination

The abominable amalgamation known as "chyaaat!"
Joined:  Apr 1, 2023
I think we might have been long overdue for a Cyberlive and Tsunderia summation. I can only speak with confidence about Tsunderia, and if i get anything wrong i welcome any-one to correct my writing, this is a overview/history of the company and what IMO led to it's collapse, i will not cover any interpersonal drama between talents. So without further ado i give you:

TSUNDERIA : THE CURSE OF THE CROWN

Our story starts in the worst place possible; Early 2020 Los Angeles California in the rented mansion of a Yu-Gi-Oh addicted Asian-American man going by the pseudonym of "PPP". In a flash of inspiration and with a small loan of 100k eddies (from his parents of course) PPP contacts his friend, future talent and manager Hoshino Charlotte and tells her "would you like to be paid to be a anime girl for a couple hours a week?"

Char agrees and together they form a Vtuber company, one of, if not the first US Vtuber company; Tsunderia. At first everything goes smoothly, a first gen consisting of Char, and two former Indies: Inukai Purin & Kamiko Kana. As Kana debuts in April 2020, she introduces her gen-mates and they soon follow up with their own debuts. Kana especially was quite popular and give that the EN boom with Holo Myths debut was still months away at this point thing were going well, even better than expected. Following the Myth debuts and the EN boom in September a new generation of Tsunderia Vtubers is launched in late November, consisting of four members; Nini Yuuna (who was an Indie for a whole two months before being scouted lol) Yazaki Kallin now Ember Aname Kirihime Ria (no link, accounts are scrubbed) & Matsuro Meru. So good so far right? first gen doing fine, and a new gen riding the tailwinds of HoloMyth. this gen was Gen 1 also called TsunQuest.

The first graduations

Something was rotten in the state of Tsunderia, and it wasn't just Kana's smell, and speaking of Kana she would graduate and return to Independent status the 4th of February 2021. Followed closely by the complete graduation of Kirihime Ria on the 4th of April. Now, Ria graduated to enter another bigger company who was just starting to seriously launch their EN branch, and she would come out of this smelling like Roses, but in the aftermath of Tsunderia we have learnt that she was encouraged to graduate for greener (though recent events paints it black) pastures by non other than a manager, and not just any manager a certain Umiushi Urara better known by fans as "Slugma". Slugma had just debuted as a Manager/Vtuber on the 14th of February, the timing possibly to distract from Kana leaving. We will see more from Slugma later in our story...

Moving on to Kana's graduation it had many reasons, discontent with PPP's "hands-off" running of the company (TN: hands-off mean doing fuck-all) rumours at the time implied Kana was being bullied by other talents, (this rrat lived on until Tsunderias dissolution) Kana generally being lazy with streaming, boyfriend yab, openly (in her discord) talking about milking her pay-pigs and of course fucking her dog. It would later turn out that the primary reason was indeed bullying, but not from other talents, but a manager/ the CCO, a certain "S-Train" PPP's friend and just generally a slimy groomer. S-Trains bullying would take the form of never responding to any request Kana had, or outright denying said requests. Neglecting to inform her of events, and misinforming other talents about Kana. Being PPP's friend made S-train
untouchable. And all this supposedly stemmed from S-train trying to get into Kana's pants, failing and this being his very pathetic revenge. He was fired after this came to light. Or was he?

So the cracks are beginning to show, two graduations, Kana being the biggest talent of the company, the CCO being involved in the worst kind of drama, a manager levied to fill the gaps in the ranks as a ersatz Vtuber. To fill the empty spot in TsunQuest the former MyHoloTV talent, then indie Miori Celesta got recruited, continuing the Tsunderia tradition of recruiting Indies into the company. Things started to stabilize again, Miori, despite any faults in her personality is a very talented singer and music producer, check the credits of Vtuber covers or orisongs, good chance you'll find Miori there, as an example;


Check the description for "Vocal arrangement"

The Cursed Founding

Gen 2 or TsunVerse went wrong from the start. the exact circumstances are somewhat shrouded in mystery but seemingly this gen would follow the same pattern as previous generation, some new talents and some Indies. But something happened to make the recruited indies drop out. The rumour is that TsunVerse was supposed to be "Tsunderia Noir" and the Indies were to be given new models but keep their old identities (sounds familiar...) We don't exactly know who would be on the roster but often cited candidates were Shimada Tiger & Seiryu Komatsu who both were seemingly preparing for re-debuts at the time then suddenly changed, Shimadas contacts with other former Tsunderia members are also taken as sign of this being true, as well as the face that Hoshino char would come to join Duskward together with Shimada and Komatsu. Whatever the truth may be, the fact is that something went terribly wrong and gen 2 was left with one, yes one talent; Amemachi Hanabi. And so as to not debut a one woman gen Orla Gan Ceann joined up as the second member, reportedly she did not want to be a talent, but agreed due to how sad it would be to let Hanabi debut all on her lonesome.

The Last Attempts At Relevance

Uncharacteristic for PPP and likely driven by the efforts of an increasingly desperate Slugma, 2021-2022 would see real signs of life and attempts to grow by Tsunderia. most notably closer cooperation with other second-tier EN vtuber companies, PRISM & Phase being the most notable. Among us SUS, some might remember this as the era of "small corpo unity", what with the joint Minecraft server and the combined Tsunderia/Phase booth at offkai in 2022.

But before offkai and the MC server, we had the last real generation of Tsunderia; Gen 3 or TsunDream. As PPP slipped further into torpor Slugam got more and more control over Tsunderia, and gen 3 was scouted by her, (and possibly Kallin/Ember) Slugma would commit one big mistake with TsunDream; i was a mixed gen of Men; Uzuki Tomoya & Tetsuya Kazune women; Chikafuji Lisa & Amiya Aranha & of course Tsurugi Nen who is very special and I'm not sure what she wants to be called at this point I'm too old for this queer shit.


Regardless of whether you're a Unicorn or Sister, a fag-basher or a homo-beggar i think we can all agree that the last thing you wanna do as a failing Vtuber company with many of your talents not regularly breaking 100 CCV is launch a gen that will filter people from the very beginning. Also noteable is that Hoshino Char had also taken on a semi-official manager role at this point, and she and Slugma pushed the boys in TsunDream to do BFE. this is something that Tomo has talked about afterwards how he wanted to be a D&D fighter (TsunDream had quite a bit of input in their models) but got overruled by Slugma and ended up a Bunny-Boy, lol, lmao, even.

Though being crippled from the start TsunDream launched to some fanfare, with an original song; (Hazy Hours -TsunDream) written,produced & performed by the TsunDream members, TsunDream being notable for all it's members being quite talented singers and musicians. And in November 2021 Tsunderia would open it's merch store. What's that? You're confused? you thought they had a merch store all along? Nope. not until well over a year from it's launch, and after three generations of Vtubers did Tsunderia get merch. Yes, this is exactly as dumb as it sounds. And speaking of merch here's one of the more well known scandals, being the spoilt princeling he is PPP would not deign to package the merch himself. This then fell upon the managers and talent living nearby, the talent living nearby being Chiiiiiiiiikafuji Lisa, so she got to serve as PPP warehouse worker while at the same time being enrolled in university and streaming regularly, very cool and fair PPP, very good business practise.

Most here know the previously mentioned MC server, where Lisa would befriend the toothless trailer park queen of Phase Connect, and well known proponent of "good paedophilia", our beloved Pipkin Pippa. And later at the Offkai expo Slugma in the flesh would be at the Tsun/Phase booth (having graduated the 8th of April), and several Tsun talents would have panels there; Mixing covers with Miori and Tomo And Amiya did Livelooping of music (no VOD for that one that i know). The offkai appearance would be marred by the fact that on the 8th of April Slugma graduated Tsunderia losing the one staff keeping things togheter and then... on the 15th of April founding member and part time manager Hoshino Char would graduate, and to make things worse, just days before offkai started the whole remaining line-up of gen 1 and Orla from gen 2 announced that they would be graduating immediately. This left Tsunderia with 7 members, the two outside of TsunDream being the only ones in their respective gens. Now rudderless and decimated Tsunderia was left in a state so pathetic i would not even call it death-throes, more like the spasms a corpse gets when you throw salt at exposed muscle.

It's Already Come And Tumbled Down, No Need To Even Play The Song

Hobbling along Tsunderia would spend the rest of 2022 doing a lot of nothing. gen 4 auditions were announced, Three new managers were hired, the only one of the mdoing anything of note was "Rei Daimonji" who seemingly had good report with Lisa in particular, and appeared one one of her streams; (LINK HERE) It was not until late in the year something started to seem off, talent had meetings they came back from saddened, and some of the discord mods left. now normally the sort of sub-human slime that would become a moderator leaving to die gracelessly in a ditch would be celebrated but just this once a disgruntled former mod took his frustrations to 4chan, after one of the then common discussion loops about secret inner circle discords came around, and this one mod wanted to disprove this; (his first post) (second post) (third and most important post containing proof of modship) In that third post is a list of bans;
while the funniest one is someone getting banned for talking about "coochie" in general chat, the important one is the one with the mod note mentioning "Bob" there was a "Manager-B" with an suspicious amount of power, being able to overrule decisions by all other managers. This is likely to be S-train under a new name, yes the same S-train that got Kana to quit. Now this seems real rratty i get it, but you might have seen the video of Ember playing FTL and venting about her exit from Tsunderia,
in it she confirms S-Train was still around after being fired;

If the piece of shit multi gazillion Eurodollar website known as YouTube gives you the wrong timestamp its' 2:11:00 - 2:12:00

Very good and cool yet again. so as January 2023 begins all is up in the air, and then first on January 20th, the remaining managers leave;

Just three days later, Purin graduates on January 23d;

And then...

It's over, not even with a whimper.
Exactly why It all shut down from this is a little unclear, probably PPP running out of steam (and possibly money) Running out of managers and Vtubers on the roster probably didn't help...

Gen Fourn't

Apparently Gen 4 was somewhat far along with a fitting four members; Juri Shima, Haewon The Heartstring, Yomi Cham & Maria Paradisia. Juri Being the only one to be new, and was given her model post-collapse. The exact circumstances of gen 4 are very strange, both Maria and Haewon implied being under NDA still, (i can prove nothing, any Haewon or Maria experts chime in if you know what is up.

And so ends our tale. And Tsunderia enters the annals of history in disgrace.

THE END

for legal reasons this is all fiction i invite you to do your own research and to add or correct as you see fit also this will take like a whole page for itself lol

Good shit. Well done. Write-ups like this deserve a thread, or at least a link directing to it in an easy-to-find place.
 

Nenélove

I am coming for you
Early Adopter
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Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
I think we might have been long overdue for a Cyberlive and Tsunderia summation. I can only speak with confidence about Tsunderia, and if i get anything wrong i welcome any-one to correct my writing, this is a overview/history of the company and what IMO led to it's collapse, i will not cover any interpersonal drama between talents. So without further ado i give you:

TSUNDERIA : THE CURSE OF THE CROWN

Our story starts in the worst place possible; Early 2020 Los Angeles California in the rented mansion of a Yu-Gi-Oh addicted Asian-American man going by the pseudonym of "PPP". In a flash of inspiration and with a small loan of 100k eddies (from his parents of course) PPP contacts his friend, future talent and manager Hoshino Charlotte and tells her "would you like to be paid to be a anime girl for a couple hours a week?"

Char agrees and together they form a Vtuber company, one of, if not the first US Vtuber company; Tsunderia. At first everything goes smoothly, a first gen consisting of Char, and two former Indies: Inukai Purin & Kamiko Kana. As Kana debuts in April 2020, she introduces her gen-mates and they soon follow up with their own debuts. Kana especially was quite popular and give that the EN boom with Holo Myths debut was still months away at this point thing were going well, even better than expected. Following the Myth debuts and the EN boom in September a new generation of Tsunderia Vtubers is launched in late November, consisting of four members; Nini Yuuna (who was an Indie for a whole two months before being scouted lol) Yazaki Kallin now Ember Aname Kirihime Ria (no link, accounts are scrubbed) & Matsuro Meru. So good so far right? first gen doing fine, and a new gen riding the tailwinds of HoloMyth. this gen was Gen 1 also called TsunQuest.

The first graduations

Something was rotten in the state of Tsunderia, and it wasn't just Kana's smell, and speaking of Kana she would graduate and return to Independent status the 4th of February 2021. Followed closely by the complete graduation of Kirihime Ria on the 4th of April. Now, Ria graduated to enter another bigger company who was just starting to seriously launch their EN branch, and she would come out of this smelling like Roses, but in the aftermath of Tsunderia we have learnt that she was encouraged to graduate for greener (though recent events paints it black) pastures by non other than a manager, and not just any manager a certain Umiushi Urara better known by fans as "Slugma". Slugma had just debuted as a Manager/Vtuber on the 14th of February, the timing possibly to distract from Kana leaving. We will see more from Slugma later in our story...

Moving on to Kana's graduation it had many reasons, discontent with PPP's "hands-off" running of the company (TN: hands-off mean doing fuck-all) rumours at the time implied Kana was being bullied by other talents, (this rrat lived on until Tsunderias dissolution) Kana generally being lazy with streaming, boyfriend yab, openly (in her discord) talking about milking her pay-pigs and of course fucking her dog. It would later turn out that the primary reason was indeed bullying, but not from other talents, but a manager/ the CCO, a certain "S-Train" PPP's friend and just generally a slimy groomer. S-Trains bullying would take the form of never responding to any request Kana had, or outright denying said requests. Neglecting to inform her of events, and misinforming other talents about Kana. Being PPP's friend made S-train
untouchable. And all this supposedly stemmed from S-train trying to get into Kana's pants, failing and this being his very pathetic revenge. He was fired after this came to light. Or was he?

So the cracks are beginning to show, two graduations, Kana being the biggest talent of the company, the CCO being involved in the worst kind of drama, a manager levied to fill the gaps in the ranks as a ersatz Vtuber. To fill the empty spot in TsunQuest the former MyHoloTV talent, then indie Miori Celesta got recruited, continuing the Tsunderia tradition of recruiting Indies into the company. Things started to stabilize again, Miori, despite any faults in her personality is a very talented singer and music producer, check the credits of Vtuber covers or orisongs, good chance you'll find Miori there, as an example;


Check the description for "Vocal arrangement"

The Cursed Founding

Gen 2 or TsunVerse went wrong from the start. the exact circumstances are somewhat shrouded in mystery but seemingly this gen would follow the same pattern as previous generation, some new talents and some Indies. But something happened to make the recruited indies drop out. The rumour is that TsunVerse was supposed to be "Tsunderia Noir" and the Indies were to be given new models but keep their old identities (sounds familiar...) We don't exactly know who would be on the roster but often cited candidates were Shimada Tiger & Seiryu Komatsu who both were seemingly preparing for re-debuts at the time then suddenly changed, Shimadas contacts with other former Tsunderia members are also taken as sign of this being true, as well as the face that Hoshino char would come to join Duskward together with Shimada and Komatsu. Whatever the truth may be, the fact is that something went terribly wrong and gen 2 was left with one, yes one talent; Amemachi Hanabi. And so as to not debut a one woman gen Orla Gan Ceann joined up as the second member, reportedly she did not want to be a talent, but agreed due to how sad it would be to let Hanabi debut all on her lonesome.

The Last Attempts At Relevance

Uncharacteristic for PPP and likely driven by the efforts of an increasingly desperate Slugma, 2021-2022 would see real signs of life and attempts to grow by Tsunderia. most notably closer cooperation with other second-tier EN vtuber companies, PRISM & Phase being the most notable. Among us SUS, some might remember this as the era of "small corpo unity", what with the joint Minecraft server and the combined Tsunderia/Phase booth at offkai in 2022.

But before offkai and the MC server, we had the last real generation of Tsunderia; Gen 3 or TsunDream. As PPP slipped further into torpor Slugam got more and more control over Tsunderia, and gen 3 was scouted by her, (and possibly Kallin/Ember) Slugma would commit one big mistake with TsunDream; i was a mixed gen of Men; Uzuki Tomoya & Tetsuya Kazune women; Chikafuji Lisa & Amiya Aranha & of course Tsurugi Nen who is very special and I'm not sure what she wants to be called at this point I'm too old for this queer shit.


Regardless of whether you're a Unicorn or Sister, a fag-basher or a homo-beggar i think we can all agree that the last thing you wanna do as a failing Vtuber company with many of your talents not regularly breaking 100 CCV is launch a gen that will filter people from the very beginning. Also noteable is that Hoshino Char had also taken on a semi-official manager role at this point, and she and Slugma pushed the boys in TsunDream to do BFE. this is something that Tomo has talked about afterwards how he wanted to be a D&D fighter (TsunDream had quite a bit of input in their models) but got overruled by Slugma and ended up a Bunny-Boy, lol, lmao, even.

Though being crippled from the start TsunDream launched to some fanfare, with an original song; (Hazy Hours -TsunDream) written,produced & performed by the TsunDream members, TsunDream being notable for all it's members being quite talented singers and musicians. And in November 2021 Tsunderia would open it's merch store. What's that? You're confused? you thought they had a merch store all along? Nope. not until well over a year from it's launch, and after three generations of Vtubers did Tsunderia get merch. Yes, this is exactly as dumb as it sounds. And speaking of merch here's one of the more well known scandals, being the spoilt princeling he is PPP would not deign to package the merch himself. This then fell upon the managers and talent living nearby, the talent living nearby being Chiiiiiiiiikafuji Lisa, so she got to serve as PPP warehouse worker while at the same time being enrolled in university and streaming regularly, very cool and fair PPP, very good business practise.

Most here know the previously mentioned MC server, where Lisa would befriend the toothless trailer park queen of Phase Connect, and well known proponent of "good paedophilia", our beloved Pipkin Pippa. And later at the Offkai expo Slugma in the flesh would be at the Tsun/Phase booth (having graduated the 8th of April), and several Tsun talents would have panels there; Mixing covers with Miori and Tomo And Amiya did Livelooping of music (no VOD for that one that i know). The offkai appearance would be marred by the fact that on the 8th of April Slugma graduated Tsunderia losing the one staff keeping things togheter and then... on the 15th of April founding member and part time manager Hoshino Char would graduate, and to make things worse, just days before offkai started the whole remaining line-up of gen 1 and Orla from gen 2 announced that they would be graduating immediately. This left Tsunderia with 7 members, the two outside of TsunDream being the only ones in their respective gens. Now rudderless and decimated Tsunderia was left in a state so pathetic i would not even call it death-throes, more like the spasms a corpse gets when you throw salt at exposed muscle.

It's Already Come And Tumbled Down, No Need To Even Play The Song

Hobbling along Tsunderia would spend the rest of 2022 doing a lot of nothing. gen 4 auditions were announced, Three new managers were hired, the only one of the mdoing anything of note was "Rei Daimonji" who seemingly had good report with Lisa in particular, and appeared one one of her streams; (LINK HERE) It was not until late in the year something started to seem off, talent had meetings they came back from saddened, and some of the discord mods left. now normally the sort of sub-human slime that would become a moderator leaving to die gracelessly in a ditch would be celebrated but just this once a disgruntled former mod took his frustrations to 4chan, after one of the then common discussion loops about secret inner circle discords came around, and this one mod wanted to disprove this; (his first post) (second post) (third and most important post containing proof of modship) In that third post is a list of bans;
while the funniest one is someone getting banned for talking about "coochie" in general chat, the important one is the one with the mod note mentioning "Bob" there was a "Manager-B" with an suspicious amount of power, being able to overrule decisions by all other managers. This is likely to be S-train under a new name, yes the same S-train that got Kana to quit. Now this seems real rratty i get it, but you might have seen the video of Ember playing FTL and venting about her exit from Tsunderia,
in it she confirms S-Train was still around after being fired;

If the piece of shit multi gazillion Eurodollar website known as YouTube gives you the wrong timestamp its' 2:11:00 - 2:12:00

Very good and cool yet again. so as January 2023 begins all is up in the air, and then first on January 20th, the remaining managers leave;

Just three days later, Purin graduates on January 23d;

And then...

It's over, not even with a whimper.
Exactly why It all shut down from this is a little unclear, probably PPP running out of steam (and possibly money) Running out of managers and Vtubers on the roster probably didn't help...

Gen Fourn't

Apparently Gen 4 was somewhat far along with a fitting four members; Juri Shima, Haewon The Heartstring, Yomi Cham & Maria Paradisia. Juri Being the only one to be new, and was given her model post-collapse. The exact circumstances of gen 4 are very strange, both Maria and Haewon implied being under NDA still, (i can prove nothing, any Haewon or Maria experts chime in if you know what is up.

And so ends our tale. And Tsunderia enters the annals of history in disgrace.

THE END

for legal reasons this is all fiction i invite you to do your own research and to add or correct as you see fit also this will take like a whole page for itself lol

I think you missed the bit with that one girl who was ultra menhera in gen 1 and spent most of her tenure in hiatus or some shit and later after it was all over did some stream drunk-crying and shitting all over management, does anyone have an archive of that?

I remember a clip in which she goes "We were the first in the EN market and it was all for fucking nothing! FUCK!"
 

Stunned But Dumb

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I think you missed the bit with that one girl who was ultra menhera in gen 1 and spent most of her tenure in hiatus or some shit and later after it was all over did some stream drunk-crying and shitting all over management, does anyone have an archive of that?

I remember a clip in which she goes "We were the first in the EN market and it was all for fucking nothing! FUCK!"
Meru. We talked about it in the old thread

Starts in this page, the archive should be in the end
 

reinigen

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Nina/Matara got a new outfit, and the bounce sliders are basically set to max.
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dizzy is walking to the fucking horizon
 

Koronesuki

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I think we might have been long overdue for a Cyberlive and Tsunderia summation. I can only speak with confidence about Tsunderia, and if i get anything wrong i welcome any-one to correct my writing, this is a overview/history of the company and what IMO led to it's collapse, i will not cover any interpersonal drama between talents. So without further ado i give you:

TSUNDERIA : THE CURSE OF THE CROWN

Our story starts in the worst place possible; Early 2020 Los Angeles California in the rented mansion of a Yu-Gi-Oh addicted Asian-American man going by the pseudonym of "PPP". In a flash of inspiration and with a small loan of 100k eddies (from his parents of course) PPP contacts his friend, future talent and manager Hoshino Charlotte and tells her "would you like to be paid to be a anime girl for a couple hours a week?"

Char agrees and together they form a Vtuber company, one of, if not the first US Vtuber company; Tsunderia. At first everything goes smoothly, a first gen consisting of Char, and two former Indies: Inukai Purin & Kamiko Kana. As Kana debuts in April 2020, she introduces her gen-mates and they soon follow up with their own debuts. Kana especially was quite popular and give that the EN boom with Holo Myths debut was still months away at this point thing were going well, even better than expected. Following the Myth debuts and the EN boom in September a new generation of Tsunderia Vtubers is launched in late November, consisting of four members; Nini Yuuna (who was an Indie for a whole two months before being scouted lol) Yazaki Kallin now Ember Aname Kirihime Ria (no link, accounts are scrubbed) & Matsuro Meru. So good so far right? first gen doing fine, and a new gen riding the tailwinds of HoloMyth. this gen was Gen 1 also called TsunQuest.

The first graduations

Something was rotten in the state of Tsunderia, and it wasn't just Kana's smell, and speaking of Kana she would graduate and return to Independent status the 4th of February 2021. Followed closely by the complete graduation of Kirihime Ria on the 4th of April. Now, Ria graduated to enter another bigger company who was just starting to seriously launch their EN branch, and she would come out of this smelling like Roses, but in the aftermath of Tsunderia we have learnt that she was encouraged to graduate for greener (though recent events paints it black) pastures by non other than a manager, and not just any manager a certain Umiushi Urara better known by fans as "Slugma". Slugma had just debuted as a Manager/Vtuber on the 14th of February, the timing possibly to distract from Kana leaving. We will see more from Slugma later in our story...

Moving on to Kana's graduation it had many reasons, discontent with PPP's "hands-off" running of the company (TN: hands-off mean doing fuck-all) rumours at the time implied Kana was being bullied by other talents, (this rrat lived on until Tsunderias dissolution) Kana generally being lazy with streaming, boyfriend yab, openly (in her discord) talking about milking her pay-pigs and of course fucking her dog. It would later turn out that the primary reason was indeed bullying, but not from other talents, but a manager/ the CCO, a certain "S-Train" PPP's friend and just generally a slimy groomer. S-Trains bullying would take the form of never responding to any request Kana had, or outright denying said requests. Neglecting to inform her of events, and misinforming other talents about Kana. Being PPP's friend made S-train
untouchable. And all this supposedly stemmed from S-train trying to get into Kana's pants, failing and this being his very pathetic revenge. He was fired after this came to light. Or was he?

So the cracks are beginning to show, two graduations, Kana being the biggest talent of the company, the CCO being involved in the worst kind of drama, a manager levied to fill the gaps in the ranks as a ersatz Vtuber. To fill the empty spot in TsunQuest the former MyHoloTV talent, then indie Miori Celesta got recruited, continuing the Tsunderia tradition of recruiting Indies into the company. Things started to stabilize again, Miori, despite any faults in her personality is a very talented singer and music producer, check the credits of Vtuber covers or orisongs, good chance you'll find Miori there, as an example;


Check the description for "Vocal arrangement"

The Cursed Founding

Gen 2 or TsunVerse went wrong from the start. the exact circumstances are somewhat shrouded in mystery but seemingly this gen would follow the same pattern as previous generation, some new talents and some Indies. But something happened to make the recruited indies drop out. The rumour is that TsunVerse was supposed to be "Tsunderia Noir" and the Indies were to be given new models but keep their old identities (sounds familiar...) We don't exactly know who would be on the roster but often cited candidates were Shimada Tiger & Seiryu Komatsu who both were seemingly preparing for re-debuts at the time then suddenly changed, Shimadas contacts with other former Tsunderia members are also taken as sign of this being true, as well as the face that Hoshino char would come to join Duskward together with Shimada and Komatsu. Whatever the truth may be, the fact is that something went terribly wrong and gen 2 was left with one, yes one talent; Amemachi Hanabi. And so as to not debut a one woman gen Orla Gan Ceann joined up as the second member, reportedly she did not want to be a talent, but agreed due to how sad it would be to let Hanabi debut all on her lonesome.

The Last Attempts At Relevance

Uncharacteristic for PPP and likely driven by the efforts of an increasingly desperate Slugma, 2021-2022 would see real signs of life and attempts to grow by Tsunderia. most notably closer cooperation with other second-tier EN vtuber companies, PRISM & Phase being the most notable. Among us SUS, some might remember this as the era of "small corpo unity", what with the joint Minecraft server and the combined Tsunderia/Phase booth at offkai in 2022.

But before offkai and the MC server, we had the last real generation of Tsunderia; Gen 3 or TsunDream. As PPP slipped further into torpor Slugam got more and more control over Tsunderia, and gen 3 was scouted by her, (and possibly Kallin/Ember) Slugma would commit one big mistake with TsunDream; i was a mixed gen of Men; Uzuki Tomoya & Tetsuya Kazune women; Chikafuji Lisa & Amiya Aranha & of course Tsurugi Nen who is very special and I'm not sure what she wants to be called at this point I'm too old for this queer shit.


Regardless of whether you're a Unicorn or Sister, a fag-basher or a homo-beggar i think we can all agree that the last thing you wanna do as a failing Vtuber company with many of your talents not regularly breaking 100 CCV is launch a gen that will filter people from the very beginning. Also noteable is that Hoshino Char had also taken on a semi-official manager role at this point, and she and Slugma pushed the boys in TsunDream to do BFE. this is something that Tomo has talked about afterwards how he wanted to be a D&D fighter (TsunDream had quite a bit of input in their models) but got overruled by Slugma and ended up a Bunny-Boy, lol, lmao, even.

Though being crippled from the start TsunDream launched to some fanfare, with an original song; (Hazy Hours -TsunDream) written,produced & performed by the TsunDream members, TsunDream being notable for all it's members being quite talented singers and musicians. And in November 2021 Tsunderia would open it's merch store. What's that? You're confused? you thought they had a merch store all along? Nope. not until well over a year from it's launch, and after three generations of Vtubers did Tsunderia get merch. Yes, this is exactly as dumb as it sounds. And speaking of merch here's one of the more well known scandals, being the spoilt princeling he is PPP would not deign to package the merch himself. This then fell upon the managers and talent living nearby, the talent living nearby being Chiiiiiiiiikafuji Lisa, so she got to serve as PPP warehouse worker while at the same time being enrolled in university and streaming regularly, very cool and fair PPP, very good business practise.

Most here know the previously mentioned MC server, where Lisa would befriend the toothless trailer park queen of Phase Connect, and well known proponent of "good paedophilia", our beloved Pipkin Pippa. And later at the Offkai expo Slugma in the flesh would be at the Tsun/Phase booth (having graduated the 8th of April), and several Tsun talents would have panels there; Mixing covers with Miori and Tomo And Amiya did Livelooping of music (no VOD for that one that i know). The offkai appearance would be marred by the fact that on the 8th of April Slugma graduated Tsunderia losing the one staff keeping things togheter and then... on the 15th of April founding member and part time manager Hoshino Char would graduate, and to make things worse, just days before offkai started the whole remaining line-up of gen 1 and Orla from gen 2 announced that they would be graduating immediately. This left Tsunderia with 7 members, the two outside of TsunDream being the only ones in their respective gens. Now rudderless and decimated Tsunderia was left in a state so pathetic i would not even call it death-throes, more like the spasms a corpse gets when you throw salt at exposed muscle.

It's Already Come And Tumbled Down, No Need To Even Play The Song

Hobbling along Tsunderia would spend the rest of 2022 doing a lot of nothing. gen 4 auditions were announced, Three new managers were hired, the only one of the mdoing anything of note was "Rei Daimonji" who seemingly had good report with Lisa in particular, and appeared one one of her streams; (LINK HERE) It was not until late in the year something started to seem off, talent had meetings they came back from saddened, and some of the discord mods left. now normally the sort of sub-human slime that would become a moderator leaving to die gracelessly in a ditch would be celebrated but just this once a disgruntled former mod took his frustrations to 4chan, after one of the then common discussion loops about secret inner circle discords came around, and this one mod wanted to disprove this; (his first post) (second post) (third and most important post containing proof of modship) In that third post is a list of bans;
while the funniest one is someone getting banned for talking about "coochie" in general chat, the important one is the one with the mod note mentioning "Bob" there was a "Manager-B" with an suspicious amount of power, being able to overrule decisions by all other managers. This is likely to be S-train under a new name, yes the same S-train that got Kana to quit. Now this seems real rratty i get it, but you might have seen the video of Ember playing FTL and venting about her exit from Tsunderia,
in it she confirms S-Train was still around after being fired;

If the piece of shit multi gazillion Eurodollar website known as YouTube gives you the wrong timestamp its' 2:11:00 - 2:12:00

Very good and cool yet again. so as January 2023 begins all is up in the air, and then first on January 20th, the remaining managers leave;

Just three days later, Purin graduates on January 23d;

And then...

It's over, not even with a whimper.
Exactly why It all shut down from this is a little unclear, probably PPP running out of steam (and possibly money) Running out of managers and Vtubers on the roster probably didn't help...

Gen Fourn't

Apparently Gen 4 was somewhat far along with a fitting four members; Juri Shima, Haewon The Heartstring, Yomi Cham & Maria Paradisia. Juri Being the only one to be new, and was given her model post-collapse. The exact circumstances of gen 4 are very strange, both Maria and Haewon implied being under NDA still, (i can prove nothing, any Haewon or Maria experts chime in if you know what is up.

And so ends our tale. And Tsunderia enters the annals of history in disgrace.

THE END

for legal reasons this is all fiction i invite you to do your own research and to add or correct as you see fit also this will take like a whole page for itself lol

Thanks for posting this. Very informative.

I think that I first heard of Tsunderia just before Purin's graduation, so I only got to see the very end of this story as it was happening.
 

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Nina/Matara got a new outfit, and the bounce sliders are basically set to max.
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Matara: blinks
Her chest:

Seriously if the woman jumps she's gonna catch two black eyes. Love long coats though, it looks great on her.
 

God's Strongest Mozumite

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Nina/Matara got a new outfit, and the bounce sliders are basically set to max.
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God DAMN!!!
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:gurabooba::shiinastare::iryswooo::bunnywow::eyehearts::MozumiPichi::pikameefuck::Vesper-SEEEX!:
Even she didn't realize how big her breasts were :marinesmug:
 

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I Wanna Die

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Nina/Matara got a new outfit, and the bounce sliders are basically set to max.
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Vshojo really like using KevinX for the rigging. He's done like 1 good Ironmouse model (can't remember which one to link it, not my fault) but everything else from him always looks off. The new Henya model constantly looks crosseyed and the facial expressions on this one feel off as well, too "soft" if that makes any sense. He ruins really good art.
 
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