General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

[Superduper Samurai]

Sayu's manager throwing a little shade during their Lethal Company collab.

She was too generous with the 1% extra

 

[USS IOWA]

Sayu's manager throwing a little shade during their Lethal Company collab.

I mean thats more than what Nijisanji is offering.

 

[The Rratarded Alt]

You say that now, but they haven't disestablished NijiEN and rolled everyone into the main branch. Yet.

Well yeah, there's that, of course. Which is why they should just focus on the individuals. There are three routes NijiEN can go from here:

• Continue as-is. Low expectations and replace Livers as they leave.
• Roll NijiEN into Nijisanji. Would likely happen after the above fails. Branch is dead and former EN livers that don't speak Japanese will probably dip pretty fast. Which is why focusing on individuals would be important.
• Improve management of the branch by hiring people who know how to manage overseas talents. There are at least signs that this may be being attempted. They would still need to properly support the branch and not have Japanese middle management retards ruin everything, though, which seems unlikely.

 

[frz]

Ok, in light of Kyo's graduation announcement I have decided this is a good time to finally post that long Niji rant/post I have been thinking about since after Pomu's graduation announcement. Once again I just want say I write this to get it out of me, if I have to move it to another designated thread please tell me, or repost it, or move it if you are a moderator. Also sorry if it's messy I've had a draft of this for like a month so I had to move around a few things

Spoiler: Another Long Niji rant

I am sorry to say that this is post gonna need a little bit of context. Back in december of last year I wrote another rant post about the state of NijiEN at the end of the year, TLDR is I was tired and frustrated of the livers constant offline works, trips to japan, lack of announcements and big events, perceived lack of support from management besides merch and just not having a good time. You can read the original post here, if not you can skip it

The point is after posting my thoughts and chatting with other users of this forum I had hope for the next year, sure my gripes were valid but as others said NijiEn livers had been making some small events and tournaments here and there and now things could start to look up or at least go back to normal, right?

Selen's song was literally privated 2 days after I posted the original rant

and then Pomu announced her graduation a week or so later

And Kyo has now announced his graduation (though to be honest I really don't care that much about it, more about it's effects on the rest of the branch)

This would be the part were I angrily write in big bold red letters telling Nijisanji they are a bag of fuckwits or something like that, but at this point there is no anger in me, there's just a feeling of defeat . I just hate how NijisanjiEN situation has become a recurrent "one step forward one step back" or even "two steps back", to the point that this forum had to create three events threads just to keep up with all the bullshit that has happened in the last month.

Even if we take into account that Pomu and Kyo's graduation was set in stone from a long time ago it's still such a shit start for the year 2024. At least Pomu had a great victory lap in the two weeks before her graduation and the graduation itself if not the best in the branch (at least compared to Nina's who was sick for one week) and we also had the Anime Impulse concert and M&Gs which were great! as long as, you know, were able to be there and ignore the "what the fuck happened to Selen" phantom hanging over the event.

But the thing that frustrates me so much is that the livers just keep saying "good things are coming, good things are coming" but ever since the beginning of the year, hell even before that there hasn't been anything that justifies all of this. In my last rant I talked about NijiEN's "big project" or "AR live revenge" being the thing that could revitalize the branch or at least recover trust in it so things could get better and how I would really like for them to announce it already so they could at least give some signal that they are supporting their talents. But there has been no news of the project, not in the new year program, not when the livers came back from Japan and not in the Anime Impulse concert, just more Voice Packs and acrylic stands. At this moment I my theory is they are going to announce it at the Mario Kart tournament on Saturday 10, both because there is proof of making big announcements at these types of events and also because of some contextual clues from the livers (then again I could be super wrong like the last times so who knows). But the bigger problem at this point is that I think that even if they make the most perfect 3D event with all the waves up to Iluna and production values that exceed Hololive, I don't think it will be enough to make things better or swing the branch reputation, or shit maybe it does and then we could go to the horrifying route that this just repeats again and again in the future, who knows with this company.

Not only all of this but also other livers have been hit by other minor things last month that didn't allow them to stream, whether it's dying pets, or being sick or taking weeks off because of the nebulous "offline work". The talents may be happy being able to hang out between themselves or with their graduated coworkers and look forward to whatever the fuck they are working on but I feel that in general for the fans it has just been shit after shit after shit for months with no end in sight for when things might get better.

In response to the rant I did before Scuddle did a great analysis of the NijiEN situation, with shorter words and more concise than I could have ever written so I'm gonna quote him:

His post is way longer and I just quoted the parts I was interested in so go and read it if you want to, it's great. Scuddle's post says something I thought about but honestly didn't have the heart to say: Nijisanji has burned A LOT of good will last year and now I feel they are at a negative trust level, so whatever they are planning to do is gonna be an uphill battle to recover that trust, and if things don't get better soon then it might start a death spiral or a reputational point of no return, or in the worst case maybe it already has.

After all the bad news in the last month I'm not sure if things in the branch will ever go back to "normal". Maybe the worst part of all of this is that even the livers themselves have started to be affected by all of this: 1/4 of NijiEN has started to play FFXIV as a sort of comfort game, Aia made a members post about how much this month has affected her and I'm sure there are more things that show that they are not having a good time, and even if they try their best to hide it that dejection can be seen in their streams or in their lack of it. It has reached a point where even I don't know if I'm having as much fun as I did before, but even so I'm just gonna keep watching my oshis and enjoying whatever time I have with them today, because god knows if they'll still be here tomorrow

That's all I wanted to say, throw me the MATI's and Migo's if you want to.

You know I have seen you like 4 times and you are anything but calm lurker, rip.
Regarding pomu's "victory lap". Did you miss her crying about how akiberse might not be released hours before it did and that she had so much stress she couldn't sleep the whole time because of it? Niji was still sabotaging her til the very end.
To be honest if they manage to get everyone 3d, give them back their play buttons and hold a 3d concert, while holding on to their talents and make sure noone graduated through negotiating more favourable contracts and keeping them happy. I can see niji reputation repaired at the very least with the fans and will be able to sway a portion of the onlooking critics.

Spoiler: As

As if they are gonna do any of that

 

[Superduper Samurai]

I honestly think Parrot4Chan said it best.

I read that in his voice and chuckled like a retard

 

[The Rratarded Alt]

give them back their play buttons

Whoa, now, don't ask for the impossible here. What would they have for Riku to melt down into silver and gold chains if they did that?

 

[SZ 109]

Who did it better? Pippa or DSP?

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Well yeah, there's that, of course. Which is why they should just focus on the individuals. There are three routes NijiEN can go from here:

• Continue as-is. Low expectations and replace Livers as they leave.
• Roll NijiEN into Nijisanji. Would likely happen after the above fails. Branch is dead and former EN livers that don't speak Japanese will probably dip pretty fast. Which is why focusing on individuals would be important.
• Improve management of the branch by hiring people who know how to manage overseas talents. There are at least signs that this may be being attempted. They would still need to properly support the branch and not have Japanese middle management retards ruin everything, though, which seems unlikely.

• Force Aviel, Fishman and whoever the fuck owns brave group into a deathmatch to see who can keep Vox when they finally kill off all filthy gaijins who dont speak nipponese

 

[The Rratarded Alt]

• Force Aviel, Fishman and whoever the fuck owns brave group into a deathmatch to see who can keep Vox when they finally kill off all filthy gaijins who dont speak nipponese

When Vox's stint is over, I don't think he is gonna continue being a VTuber, going by the shit he has said about the format in the past.

 

[Titanosaurus]

Tonight Remi will catch a hundred chicken Pals

 

[Superduper Samurai]

When Vox's stint is over, I don't think he is gonna continue being a VTuber, going by the shit he has said about the format in the past.

that would be the funny part, he would just graduate 3.0 seconds after going to his new home

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

Ok, in light of Kyo's graduation announcement I have decided this is a good time to finally post that long Niji rant/post I have been thinking about since after Pomu's graduation announcement. Once again I just want say I write this to get it out of me, if I have to move it to another designated thread please tell me, or repost it, or move it if you are a moderator. Also sorry if it's messy I've had a draft of this for like a month so I had to move around a few things

Spoiler: Another Long Niji rant

I am sorry to say that this is post gonna need a little bit of context. Back in december of last year I wrote another rant post about the state of NijiEN at the end of the year, TLDR is I was tired and frustrated of the livers constant offline works, trips to japan, lack of announcements and big events, perceived lack of support from management besides merch and just not having a good time. You can read the original post here, if not you can skip it

The point is after posting my thoughts and chatting with other users of this forum I had hope for the next year, sure my gripes were valid but as others said NijiEn livers had been making some small events and tournaments here and there and now things could start to look up or at least go back to normal, right?

Selen's song was literally privated 2 days after I posted the original rant

and then Pomu announced her graduation a week or so later

And Kyo has now announced his graduation (though to be honest I really don't care that much about it, more about it's effects on the rest of the branch)

This would be the part were I angrily write in big bold red letters telling Nijisanji they are a bag of fuckwits or something like that, but at this point there is no anger in me, there's just a feeling of defeat . I just hate how NijisanjiEN situation has become a recurrent "one step forward one step back" or even "two steps back", to the point that this forum had to create three events threads just to keep up with all the bullshit that has happened in the last month.

Even if we take into account that Pomu and Kyo's graduation was set in stone from a long time ago it's still such a shit start for the year 2024. At least Pomu had a great victory lap in the two weeks before her graduation and the graduation itself if not the best in the branch (at least compared to Nina's who was sick for one week) and we also had the Anime Impulse concert and M&Gs which were great! as long as, you know, were able to be there and ignore the "what the fuck happened to Selen" phantom hanging over the event.

But the thing that frustrates me so much is that the livers just keep saying "good things are coming, good things are coming" but ever since the beginning of the year, hell even before that there hasn't been anything that justifies all of this. In my last rant I talked about NijiEN's "big project" or "AR live revenge" being the thing that could revitalize the branch or at least recover trust in it so things could get better and how I would really like for them to announce it already so they could at least give some signal that they are supporting their talents. But there has been no news of the project, not in the new year program, not when the livers came back from Japan and not in the Anime Impulse concert, just more Voice Packs and acrylic stands. At this moment I my theory is they are going to announce it at the Mario Kart tournament on Saturday 10, both because there is proof of making big announcements at these types of events and also because of some contextual clues from the livers (then again I could be super wrong like the last times so who knows). But the bigger problem at this point is that I think that even if they make the most perfect 3D event with all the waves up to Iluna and production values that exceed Hololive, I don't think it will be enough to make things better or swing the branch reputation, or shit maybe it does and then we could go to the horrifying route that this just repeats again and again in the future, who knows with this company.

Not only all of this but also other livers have been hit by other minor things last month that didn't allow them to stream, whether it's dying pets, or being sick or taking weeks off because of the nebulous "offline work". The talents may be happy being able to hang out between themselves or with their graduated coworkers and look forward to whatever the fuck they are working on but I feel that in general for the fans it has just been shit after shit after shit for months with no end in sight for when things might get better.

In response to the rant I did before Scuddle did a great analysis of the NijiEN situation, with shorter words and more concise than I could have ever written so I'm gonna quote him:

His post is way longer and I just quoted the parts I was interested in so go and read it if you want to, it's great. Scuddle's post says something I thought about but honestly didn't have the heart to say: Nijisanji has burned A LOT of good will last year and now I feel they are at a negative trust level, so whatever they are planning to do is gonna be an uphill battle to recover that trust, and if things don't get better soon then it might start a death spiral or a reputational point of no return, or in the worst case maybe it already has.

After all the bad news in the last month I'm not sure if things in the branch will ever go back to "normal". Maybe the worst part of all of this is that even the livers themselves have started to be affected by all of this: 1/4 of NijiEN has started to play FFXIV as a sort of comfort game, Aia made a members post about how much this month has affected her and I'm sure there are more things that show that they are not having a good time, and even if they try their best to hide it that dejection can be seen in their streams or in their lack of it. It has reached a point where even I don't know if I'm having as much fun as I did before, but even so I'm just gonna keep watching my oshis and enjoying whatever time I have with them today, because god knows if they'll still be here tomorrow

That's all I wanted to say, throw me the MATI's and Migo's if you want to.

All I get out of this is that you are Kyo and you only delayed this because you wanted the graduation announcement out first before you trauma dumped.

 

[Bug Eater]

His post is way longer and I just quoted the parts I was interested in so go and read it if you want to, it's great. Scuddle's post says something I thought about but honestly didn't have the heart to say: Nijisanji has burned A LOT of good will last year and now I feel they are at a negative trust level, so whatever they are planning to do is gonna be an uphill battle to recover that trust, and if things don't get better soon then it might start a death spiral or a reputational point of no return, or in the worst case maybe it already has.

After all the bad news in the last month I'm not sure if things in the branch will ever go back to "normal". Maybe the worst part of all of this is that even the livers themselves have started to be affected by all of this: 1/4 of NijiEN has started to play FFXIV as a sort of comfort game, Aia made a members post about how much this month has affected her and I'm sure there are more things that show that they are not having a good time, and even if they try their best to hide it that dejection can be seen in their streams or in their lack of it. It has reached a point where even I don't know if I'm having as much fun as I did before, but even so I'm just gonna keep watching my oshis and enjoying whatever time I have with them today, because god knows if they'll still be here tomorrow

Yeah as much as people like to shit on Scuddle that was a really insightful post and was painfully accurate in its description of the main issue that Anycolor will face in the EN market going forwards. For contrast Elira's membership letter for this month was cautiously optimistic given all the shit that happened in just the last couple of months, but it will take a lot more than that to rebuild their reputation even to a neutral level.

ANYCOLOR posted job application for "Director of Nijisanji EN" position (the equivalent of Dimitri Jap of HoloEN maybe), so I guess they are at least attempting to salvage the branch?

Edit: Does that mean NijiEN never had a "lead manager" before this? At least for HoloEN there was the rrat that Dimitri Jap replaced Omega when he was hired.

Honestly I do wonder if they ever had one in the first place, but if they did actually fire the old guy then that's a good start.

 

[Lee Crabb]

Illness will not stop Lia from thirsting after anime boys.

 

[reinigen]

I read that in his voice and chuckled like a retard

Parrot even said in his last video he's sick of making vids on Niji stuff, but they JUST KEEP FUCKING UP.

 

[The Rratarded Alt]

In case anyone was interested in the insights of a chuuba with a public spouse.

 

[White Stone]

ANYCOLOR posted job application for "Director of Nijisanji EN" position (the equivalent of Dimitri Jap of HoloEN maybe), so I guess they are at least attempting to salvage the branch?

Edit: Does that mean NijiEN never had a "lead manager" before this? At least for HoloEN there was the rrat that Dimitri Jap replaced Omega when he was hired.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

ANYCOLOR posted job application for "Director of Nijisanji EN" position (the equivalent of Dimitri Jap of HoloEN maybe), so I guess they are at least attempting to salvage the branch?

Edit: Does that mean NijiEN never had a "lead manager" before this? At least for HoloEN there was the rrat that Dimitri Jap replaced Omega when he was hired.

I should stop applying to be a streamer and try to see if I can land the director position, because that would be equally funny.

 

[Cubanodun]

ANYCOLOR posted job application for "Director of Nijisanji EN" position (the equivalent of Dimitri Jap of HoloEN maybe), so I guess they are at least attempting to salvage the branch?

Edit: Does that mean NijiEN never had a "lead manager" before this? At least for HoloEN there was the rrat that Dimitri Jap replaced Omega when he was hired.

So guys how good you are using a whip and torturing filipinos and canadians? maybe we have a spot for you in Nijisanji EN!

 

[La+ de Central Norte]

Aviel exudes extreme Brave energy. You know what you must do.

I cant show my power level yet
But i will track down every single vtuber from Argentina that participates in IdolES

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Good Night