General Thread v2: Enhanced Segregation Techniques!

[MerelyTourist]

I know this is because of Kircshe and a volunteer's sheer arrogance that she can ban someone because of some tweets, But I don't think Offkai would reverse their blacklist because they already got Hololive, Phase, and other agencies and bot to mention big indies and Youtubers already on the lineup.

None of which had any problem with Kir, mind you. They are irrelevant to this situation. Fishman might have a few choice words in private though.
It'll be sour taste reardless of outcome now.

Not to mention their meet and greets haven't been publicity announced yet. This gives Offkai full opportunity to pretend they were never slotted or just ignore them fully. Should have waited for the announcement then pulled out.

That would be incredibly retartded of them. And Rev's whole shtick is being anti-retarded man of integrity.

 

[YGO Link Monster]

If Kirsche was banned because she is an Edgy Culture war retard.... why RevsaysDesu wasnt also banned??

 

[RestlessRain]

While I can respect their stance, a bunch of minor indies pulling out of Off-Kai isn't going to change anything.

Things will only change if some of the big players at the con start making noises.

 

[USS IOWA]

If Kirsche was banned because she is an Edgy Culture war retard.... why RevsaysDesu wasnt also banned??

I think probably because of Strawb, She was not political on stream and maybe they negotiated tgat they will come together before this mess has started.

 

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[DanishCookies]

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[NeneHATE]

While I can respect their stance, a bunch of minor indies pulling out of Off-Kai isn't going to change anything.

Things will only change if some of the big players at the con start making noises.

Holo isn't doing anything unless the whole con is burning down, they couldn't give less of a shit if tiny indies are boycotting due to culture war bs.

Idol and phase are already invested so they ain't pulling out either.

The only one who's even potentially leaving is vshojo or some of the microcorps there.

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

Kirsch is a grifter and shouldn't be surprised. People care too much about this, if you are upset don't go.

 

[Salado]

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Jesus have mercy...

 

[MerelyTourist]

Kirsch is a grifter and shouldn't be surprised. People care too much about this, if you are upset don't go.

I'd say real problem is not even Kir or her content. Problem is, how and where they put the line? If they set clear cutoff point for political-ish creators from the beginning, then no one would question it. Your sandbox, your rules (unless your market cut is way too big). But as of now, director elaborately explained that there are no rules and everyone are welcome, but only until some random anons got ofended, then all your plans and promises go to shit.

 

[RestlessRain]

I'd say real problem is not even Kir or her content. Problem is, how and where they put the line? If they set clear cutoff point for political-ish creators from the beginning, then no one would question it. Your sandbox, your rules (unless your market cut is way too big). But as of now, director elaborately explained that there are no rules and everyone are welcome, but only until some random anons got ofended, then all your plans and promises go to shit.

Its not about Kirsche being political so much as it's about Kirsche not having the right politics (or having the Right politics, pardon the pun). I bet that openly commie vtuber has no problems with Off-Kai con volunteers.

 

[God's Strongest Wardog]

Jesus have mercy...

I have been RUSED!

 

[MerelyTourist]

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[The Proctor]

Its not about Kirsche being political so much as it's about Kirsche not having the right politics (or having the Right politics, pardon the pun). I bet that openly commie vtuber has no problems with Off-Kai con volunteers.

Remember that Offkai has platformed Filian and the late, great VT_Rainbow in the past. They are provably okay with politics if the exposure is large enough (Filian) or left-wing psychopathic narcissists (Marina). I would actually be substantially less angry if Offkai had suddenly come out with a clear set of rules and standards for creators which Kirsche was clearly in violation of, because at the very least that would be saying 'this now applies to everyone'. But this is blatantly personal.

 

[Scoots]

Remember that Offkai has platformed Filian and the late, great VT_Rainbow in the past. They are provably okay with politics if the exposure is large enough (Filian) or left-wing psychopathic narcissists (Marina). I would actually be substantially less angry if Offkai had suddenly come out with a clear set of rules and standards for creators which Kirsche was clearly in violation of, because at the very least that would be saying 'this now applies to everyone'. But this is blatantly personal.

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[The Proctor]

smol dog is talking about the Offkai stuff right now. Basically saying she doesn't find it surprising at all and thinks it's extremely hypocritical and stupid.

 

[Ballpark_Look]

Everyone tries to paint Kirsche as ultra conservative, but her views are moderately conservative at most. That's partially her own fault though.

 

[Zizara]

Idol pulled a Vshojo.

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I guess the "literally who" defence crumbles once you start collabing with some of the bigger and more well-connected names. Well, they know who you are now Kirsche...
For Offkai's sake I do hope they restructure how they run things after this though. Bending the knee and letting these people know they can get people removed if enough of them make a stink in the right ways will only embolden them to try it again. They'll ask for more next time.

If Kirsche was banned because she is an Edgy Culture war retard.... why RevsaysDesu wasnt also banned??

It's not that Kirsche is an edgy culture war retard, it's that she's one that enough of the right people decided to fixate on. There is no consistency - not from the people looking for their target of the week nor the business people just wanting the complaints to go away and run their convention.

 

[closedblas]

If Kirsche was banned because she is an Edgy Culture war retard.... why RevsaysDesu wasnt also banned??

Can't get banned if nobody knows you were going in the first place...

 

[Scoots]

If Kirsche was banned because she is an Edgy Culture war retard.... why RevsaysDesu wasnt also banned??

Rev wasn't announced yet I bet if he hadn't pulled out they would have cut him as soon as the staff that opposed Kirsche and by extension the Twitter freaks saw the announcement

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