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Dispirited Helmet

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The hard part of Turducken is performing fucking surgery to debone everything but the Turkey. Good Luck
Oh believe me, I'm getting that bitch premade, flash frozen, and mailed in a refrigerated truck. I'm not losing my entire holiday to bird boning.
 

Nenélove

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Oh believe me, I'm getting that bitch premade, flash frozen, and mailed in a refrigerated truck. I'm not losing my entire holiday to bird boning.
MAKE IT YOU FUCKING PUSSY BITCH FÁGGOT :Pekora-EVILGRIN:
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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This one is filled with shrimp and crawfish.
Jambalaya is more than just the main meat and rice. Not having trinity in a cajun dish is sacrilege (bell pepper, celery, and onions). You're missing out on sausage, preferably andouille but if you can't find it in your SEAfag shithole, you can settle with whatever spiced sausage you prefer. There's also garlic and your choice of pepper, most recipes will say cayenne pepper but you can use whatever works for you, jalapeno and habanero are both viable alternatives. Be sure to include the seeds for the extra bite.

Considering you're doing a seafood jambalaya, you're going to need a light roux unlike with chicken jambalaya because you're trying to counter the juices with the seafood. Dark roux only works for chicken because that's a stronger flavor but with seafood, it will easily overpower the flavoring of the entire dish. Perform all your prep work cutting and dicing everything before you even start the roux because it can quickly turn from okay to burnt if you stop stirring, which will make your entire dish taste like shit. Since you're making a seafood jambalaya, you can add tomatoes to the whole thing when you added in the trinity.
@God's Strongest Dragoon Jambalaya mention, give our friend your secret recipe
I'm not going to teach a SEAfag my recipe. I'm also not a NO fag, so I usually make chicken jambalaya, not seafood jambalaya. It's a bit different but not that much, just a few key differences in the ingredients and cooking process.
 

Nenélove

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Jambalaya is more than just the main meat and rice. Not having trinity in a cajun dish is sacrilege (bell pepper, celery, and onions). You're missing out on sausage, preferably andouille but if you can't find it in your SEAfag shithole, you can settle with whatever spiced sausage you prefer. There's also garlic and your choice of pepper, most recipes will say cayenne pepper but you can use whatever works for you, jalapeno and habanero are both viable alternatives. Be sure to include the seeds for the extra bite.

Considering you're doing a seafood jambalaya, you're going to need a light roux unlike with chicken jambalaya because you're trying to counter the juices with the seafood. Dark roux only works for chicken because that's a stronger flavor but with seafood, it will easily overpower the flavoring of the entire dish. Perform all your prep work cutting and dicing everything before you even start the roux because it can quickly turn from okay to burnt if you stop stirring, which will make your entire dish taste like shit. Since you're making a seafood jambalaya, you can add tomatoes to the whole thing when you added in the trinity.

I'm not going to teach a SEAfag my recipe. I'm also not a NO fag, so I usually make chicken jambalaya, not seafood jambalaya. It's a bit different but not that much, just a few key differences in the ingredients and cooking process.
I can get you to tell him just by butchering the thing and having you autistically correct me.
 

Koronesuki

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If you make it with Spam, then it's Spambalaya.
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Nenélove

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If you make it with Spam, then it's Spambalaya.
:smugina:
YOU HAVE AWOKEN THE CAJUN HORDE!
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God's Strongest Dragoon

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RestlessRain

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>Conquer the world for spices
>Refuse to use any spices when cooking

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God's Strongest Dragoon

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Aquatic Novellite

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I for one would be quite happy to spend a weekend birdboning. Hawks, birds of paradise, ducks and owls in particular.
 

Zyklon Mag

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Literal RL footage of a pig named Millie:ewww:
I for one would be quite happy to spend a weekend birdboning. Hawks, birds of paradise, ducks and owls in particular.
You are now banned from the poultry aisle at your local grocery store.
 

Aquatic Novellite

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You are now banned from the poultry aisle at your local grocery store.
Lucky me that I only posted this after buying three pounds of chicken earlier today.

(Also a pound of bellpeppers, a zucchini, some shrimps, spring onions...)
 

Awoogers

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RestlessRain

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This is what most of the current AI artists that I have seen pretty much been doing yes. They generate it using their preferred AI art generator like StableDiffusion and depending on the results they tweaked it using photoshop or whatever drawing app they used.

Usually they do light editing but most of them tend to do some redraws on pieces or bits that the result didnt generate correctly (say, small details from a vtuber's hairpiece that the AI couldnt recreate) as well, so that the result were at least not blatantly AI looking and consistent.

Of course at the end of the day is still AI slop, but they at least tried to serve said slop with a little bit of garnish or whatever to make it look less like a slop. And when said garnished slop was enough to make one thought its good shit, then it worked.
What's happening now is what you describe - people generating a large amount of images to find something that kinda works and doing small edits to fix the most egregious of errors. There's no consistency of style or presentation because people generating AI-based art don't have any foundational skills as artists. These people are going to compromise on what's shown in the picture against what they want to make, because while they can remove a finger in the wrong position, they don't have the skill to, say, edit the pose of a character to be in the exact position they want them in.

What I see happening in the future is artists, who have actual skill in drawing, using AI to help with the basic, boring work and then drawing the stuff they want to draw with their own artistic style and putting it all together to create something that's obviously theirs. They mightn't want to spend too much time drawing curtains in a room fluttering in the breeze, but you bet they will put all their efforts in drawing the cute anime girl sitting in that room. The artist will have enough skill to be able to make corrections to the AI-generated aspects of the piece when it's needed, and draw what they need to when AI isn't going to be specific enough to meet their vision. And, overall, it's going to contain their art style and artistic preferences so it's recognizably their piece.

That's how I see the future of AI in art, anyway.
 

frz

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What's happening now is what you describe - people generating a large amount of images to find something that kinda works and doing small edits to fix the most egregious of errors. There's no consistency of style or presentation because people generating AI-based art don't have any foundational skills as artists. These people are going to compromise on what's shown in the picture against what they want to make, because while they can remove a finger in the wrong position, they don't have the skill to, say, edit the pose of a character to be in the exact position they want them in.

What I see happening in the future is artists, who have actual skill in drawing, using AI to help with the basic, boring work and then drawing the stuff they want to draw with their own artistic style and putting it all together to create something that's obviously theirs. They mightn't want to spend too much time drawing curtains in a room fluttering in the breeze, but you bet they will put all their efforts in drawing the cute anime girl sitting in that room. The artist will have enough skill to be able to make corrections to the AI-generated aspects of the piece when it's needed, and draw what they need to when AI isn't going to be specific enough to meet their vision. And, overall, it's going to contain their art style and artistic preferences so it's recognizably their piece.

That's how I see the future of AI in art, anyway.
Question, what do you consider is "basic, boring work" of art?
This is the same "inventing a problem that doesn't exist for genAI to solve" which plagues the entire genAI industry. "I see the future of AI in law to assist lawyers" "I see the future of AI to assist doctor in diagnosing" "I see the future of AI to assist engineers to design". "I dont know what this future is but it can definitely happen!!"

This is why genAI/LLMs, in my opinions, are just scams. They are dressed up as this super intelligent, all knowing , self conscious, magical humanoid robot, when genAI/LLMs at it core is just "take input a > draw response B". "Some future uses humanity as they currently are can not fathom of" is the name of the game. And just like .com, crypto, NFT, big data, Sillicon Valley gonna move away from AI into the "next big thing" like they always does once they finished exploiting people.

The only thing I can think of that fits the "basic and boring" part of artwork is toning and screening for mangas.
mangaka just want to draw the action and characters, so this is why they usually hire assistants to do that part.
Actual AI (not genAI/LLMs crap) already tackled this issues, and this is why mangaka/artists made the switch from traditional to digital. You can see how fast they apply toning in here with 6 years old technologies and it will get only better with time without any need of genAI/LLMs. Artists made the traditional > digital switch not because of "things that maybe or maybe not digital can do in the future" but based on "things that digital can already offer"

None of this toning is doable for the current genAI as it exists. GenAI literally doesn't know how to "preserve picture and just add a little effect", they are programmed not to.
It is going to take even more time to generate these effects using prompts than just ... draw them. And no company is training their genAI to do exactly this, because it isn't a business that can scale.

And this specific toning problem only applies to manga, art drawn on black and white with the goal of quantity > quality. Rather than "normal" artwork artist do where they just draw "1 art", usually colored. Normal artist does not have this "basic and boring work" of toning.

Mangaka also tried pasting real life background / 3D rendered background into their manga way before as a way to save time, but it honestly just ... completely conflict with the actual arts since they are in a completely different style of art and reduce the quality instead.

The real use of genAI is what you have already been seen it doing and will be continuing to do. Churning out boring and generic artworks until the end of time.
 
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Dispirited Helmet

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RestlessRain

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Question, what do you consider is "basic, boring work" of art?
Okay, this is one of my favourite pieces of art, "The Great Red Dragon" by Keith Parkinson:
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You'll notice that there's an incredible amount of detail here, and obviously that detail would have taken many, many hours to draw, especially since it was done by hand. If someone wanted to create a piece of art inspired by this, they would no doubt have to draw the dragon themselves to get the pose and appearance just right, to properly convey the menace and danger the dragon poses. However, I don't see any reason that same person wouldn't consider using an AI to help with drawing the loot in front of the dragon, or for drawing the texture or background in the caverns behind the dragon. There's a lot of work there and if we've gone from lumpy, misshapen lions to "oh, the shadows and perspective lines are wrong" in less than three years, I have no doubt that AI art in the near future is going to be able to do stuff like rock textures or loot, if it can't do it already.
 
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