Yeah how dare someone harass someone by *checks notes* archiving something someone doesn't want archived.
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It'll be ok. At some point in the next 12 hours everyone involved will realize without here or the Fatherland to discuss and/or shitpost about vtubers.. they might have to actually go to /vt/ or reddit.Cooler heads did not prevail.
For the first time since it's inception, i worry about the future of this place. But I guess I'll just stick to posting Art and news, instead of getting tangled in the meta. Seems like the easiest way to avoid stepping on toes.
Don't want this place to turn into a ResetEra kinda place where you have to walk on eggshells...
They'll still all be retarded and have shit on themselves though, for a long while.
Reminder:
Discord is gay.
Many of you are absolute fags, and some I assume, are good people.
This entire thing is retarded and everyone involved seemingly managed to hit the trifecta of bad reaction/response(s), bad optics, and bad timing.
The spergouts over all of this over the span of a couple hours made it look like the place got plundered by Yamanbas. Instead it was just dumb, gay, autistic shit that should have just been a footnote and everyone involved moved on.
For fuck's sake, all the pages and an announcement in the header made it sound like Niji EN gave up and mass-graduated (Kyo aside, fucking Yamanba).
All involved need to touch grass. Or buy a rope I guess. This should have been a nothingburger. It's his site, his rules, no amount of tophats are going to change anything right now.
I am going to get a large pizza and eat that fucking thing while staring at Pippa, in pure defiance of her malding about it. Meanwhile, many of those involved will be seething and/or coping, and possibly dilating.
TL;DR: You are all homosexuals and this is all very gay.
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The meat master may be insane, but he seems to know his limits, and he can reign it in on command.
Can I suggest something constructive among this sea of discord faggotry?
What if you unban Takodachi, but gave him a week-long suspension. That wouldn't be too much to ask for. But when he comes back you put him on probation, like he can say whatever he wants but if it begins to pile up again, you can then show the whole forum why you have to get rid of him. 99% of the time retards don't change (because "muh e-cred", I'm an internet tough-guy, etc) but there's still that 1% that should get a chance.
What if you unban Takodachi, but gave him a week-long suspension. That wouldn't be too much to ask for. But when he comes back you put him on probation, like he can say whatever he wants but if it begins to pile up again, you can then show the whole forum why you have to get rid of him. 99% of the time retards don't change (because "muh e-cred", I'm an internet tough-guy, etc) but there's still that 1% that should get a chance.
There was a farms thread discord in I think 2021, before this place, that wound up being rather degen.
Wasn’t it already clear the membership stuff should not be posted unless it was relevant to some kind of happening? I remember Procter making a Statement on this a while back.
It wasn't a members-only karaoke, IIRC.
Just an incredibly self-concious Moriko or menhera Moriko. Same thing.
it was litterally some unarchived karaokes he was archiving
It wasn't a membership stream, she simply requested the people watching her stream (as in, could be literally fucking anybody) not archive it.
He archived a karaoke, only DM'd her because she DM'd him first, and then never talked about her again while she stayed buttmad about it for ages. Fucking hilarious. Don't know why any of that is seen as a negative, genuinely, and I recall many people here finding it quite humorous at the time but now all of a sudden it's a bad thing we all hated? I dunno man, I don't get you guys sometimes.
Yeah, that was us. We had like 6 or 7 NSFW channels for some reason. Looks like we're only posting Nikke stuff and cosplayers currently.
"Don't be an identifiable retard"
Main account. Not even behind an alt we can all wink-wink-nudge each over, directly traceable to here. Even /vt/ knows Proctor, he's the guy who blogposts and overshares in chats until they either get sick of him and tell him to shut the fuck up or the streamer accidentally offends him and he drops them like nothing.
And how about that time Proctor prompted us to dox Ragdoll's location? Yeah I bet she thought that was some real valid criticism.
Listen, I like this place and a lot of users, but I'm fucking sick of the hypocrisy that floats around. There's a clear divide between those users who actually follow the rules vs those who pay lipservice to it and then immediately drop their pants to start shitting where they eat as soon as they think it's funny or no-one will notice. That the latter includes staff members isn't great. Takodachi's real issue is falling on the wrong side of the line where the right people (ie Proctor) didn't find it funny enough, not that he was acting particularly differently. It just happened to be something Proctor cares about, not something he can't be fucked to police like slurs or harassing other talents.
And acting like a reddit powerjanny threatening to ban people just for talking about the matter and actually following through on banning Rrat over it for disagreeing is just a red flag, smug cunt attitude about it and all. That's obviously not going to go over well with a Kiwifarms-derived userbase, don't know what you're thinking with that. This place took off because it was more convenient than the homelands with its semi-frequent outages, but if the staff are going to act like hypocritical spergs then that can change.
I would only even consider something like that if he contacted me (via e-mail) and professed an apology for all the nonsense he has caused, plus an outspoken commitment to changing and improving.
Literally nobody I have ever banned from here has done that. They have, to a man (random flips excepted) gone elsewhere and wailed about how bad and awful and horrid this place is, then gotten madder when I haven't unbanned them.
Rrat is gone for a week. Short is permabanned after numerous warnings. He was already at 3 on his profile.
He's an unironic piss-fetishist and spent most of the last 12 hours deliberately antagonizing me. He is the second major reason for my current announcement.
Fetishes.
I liked the Yamanba, but we don't need to know about his fondness for Pee Cola.
o7 brother you served well
Frankly, yeah, it's fairly obvious that the fuse here was Tako's usual shenanigans specifically targetting Kirsche, and that without it, he could've kept going with his usual shenanigans targetting literally anyone else for quite a long time.
Though in all fairness, Proctor has expressed his less than positive impression of Takodachi before (Element, I believe, over the Bat karaoke thing and subsequent ban. To quote from memory, "Never go full Takodachi". I don't think this would ever have happened without Takodachi antagonising Kirsche, but Proctor's been negatively inclined towards him for a while, in the sense of "Batshit motherfucker doesn't know the first thing about socialisation". Which is, well, not exactly wrong.
Personally, while I enjoy Takodachi's shenanigans and believe his routine 2view shilling contributions to be worthwhile, as demonstrated by the 2views he shills tending to rapidly grow in popularity, I can't deny that his 2view shilling aside, Takodachi's idea of social interaction is seemingly "Fuck with whoever I feel like", which is not ideal as a means to not get banned.
Personally, I wouldn't have banned him (not from the forum, at any rate. Discord may be a different matter, considering its ostensible purpose), but that's owed to me having a somewhat more relaxed attitude towards being a dick.
Takodachi did do everything that has been cited as a reason for the ban, but to be perfectly frank, so did a lot of us, just with different targets. Vshojo/Froot, others along those lines. They're just acceptable targets on TVA.
A counterpoint to this is, of course, that we inherently treat random people we know from watching them on streams differently from people who we chat with on a daily basis. That's normal.
Takodachi is batshit, else he wouldn't keep getting banned by streamer after streamer.
But, and I confess some bias here, it's a kind of batshit I can appreciate, even if I'm disinclined to engage in it myself.
tl;dr: Killing Takodachi on Discord, sure. Forums? I see the reasoning, but I wouldn't have done it.
Killing Rrat and Short? You're pissed off and in the process of blowing up your forum in a giant pissing match. I suggest a night's sleep over the matter.
Though in all fairness, Proctor has expressed his less than positive impression of Takodachi before (Element, I believe, over the Bat karaoke thing and subsequent ban. To quote from memory, "Never go full Takodachi". I don't think this would ever have happened without Takodachi antagonising Kirsche, but Proctor's been negatively inclined towards him for a while, in the sense of "Batshit motherfucker doesn't know the first thing about socialisation". Which is, well, not exactly wrong.
Personally, while I enjoy Takodachi's shenanigans and believe his routine 2view shilling contributions to be worthwhile, as demonstrated by the 2views he shills tending to rapidly grow in popularity, I can't deny that his 2view shilling aside, Takodachi's idea of social interaction is seemingly "Fuck with whoever I feel like", which is not ideal as a means to not get banned.
Personally, I wouldn't have banned him (not from the forum, at any rate. Discord may be a different matter, considering its ostensible purpose), but that's owed to me having a somewhat more relaxed attitude towards being a dick.
Takodachi did do everything that has been cited as a reason for the ban, but to be perfectly frank, so did a lot of us, just with different targets. Vshojo/Froot, others along those lines. They're just acceptable targets on TVA.
A counterpoint to this is, of course, that we inherently treat random people we know from watching them on streams differently from people who we chat with on a daily basis. That's normal.
Takodachi is batshit, else he wouldn't keep getting banned by streamer after streamer.
But, and I confess some bias here, it's a kind of batshit I can appreciate, even if I'm disinclined to engage in it myself.
tl;dr: Killing Takodachi on Discord, sure. Forums? I see the reasoning, but I wouldn't have done it.
Killing Rrat and Short? You're pissed off and in the process of blowing up your forum in a giant pissing match. I suggest a night's sleep over the matter.
Cowtipping is real bad, m'kay, unless it's chatting up Q while she's having a twitter spergout over reading the forum, and then making a stream out of it, because that's content, therefore it's not cowtipping.
It was a good stream, and much joy was had, but stop pretending you didn't initiate there.
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Proctor, forum posts are not essays, they don't have a word count! Half of the people in this very thread don't even see half the issue you had with tako in the first place because reading what you put out should be considered an olympic discipline.
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