They did my girl Jinx dirty.
"Seriously chat, whilst she's gone off the room, I really don't know how do you put up with... uh Rin lol At least you don't have to live with her like I do, maybe we could try and get her to move out, even if she moved to the shed in the garden, she's absolutely hopeless in the house; She doesn't even know what recycling is, can't put anything in the bin, doesn't know what a washing machine is, doesn't make her bed, full of toys, absolutely full of toys, doesn't even drive; You'd think she'd work all this work out before she came on stream, oh here she comes. We all decided it would be a really good idea if you moved to Siberia"Gin Penrose
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Lol what? Unless it's an incredibly retarded filian situation, she owns the copyright on her design (you don't need to file anything for that, you could literally scribble something on a piece of paper right now and guess what you own the copyright on that doodle) and if she wanted to really be a bitch about it she could already go after the plushie maker for statutory damages.
I don't think the community would support that, and even after lawyering up and getting a court judgement I don't know that it would be practical to collect, but legally she's 100% in the right here. Just because some Japanese companies have a tradition of tolerance doesn't mean that's binding on other people around the world.
This seems to be a common misconception, since it's so widespread and normalized in the vtubing community. I'm not a lawyer, I'm certainly not a copyright lawyer. I'm just a layman trying to understand copyright laws. However, I'm going to do my best to outline the situation as I understand it. If someone else is more informed on copyright law, they're more than welcome to correct me.
- Nearly all countries are part of the Berne Convention. This agreement dictates how copyright, aka ownership of art that an artist creates, is treated in any country that's part of the Berne Agreement (Wikipedia link for a simple summary)
- As a flip, Gumpai is part of the Berne Agreement. It's extremely likely you're probably part of the Berne agreement too, and so are nearly all the other people on this forum.
- While I can't say what sort of right Gumpai has over the drawing of her character itself, or its rigging (that would be between her and her artist and rigger) she definitely has rights regarding everything else about the character - voice, behaviour, personality, stories involving that character, and so forth.
- Protection for a work exists the moment it is written or recorded. You don't need to apply for paperwork for that work to get copyright. The fact that her streams are recorded by her is enough for her to have copyright and for her to have the rights associated with having copyright
- Among the rights as someone who has created a piece of art is "moral rights", you have the right to object to someone mutilating or deforming your work in a way that impugns the author. If you want to draw lewds of Gumpai, Gumpai could legally object to it based on you impugning her character
- You also have the right for how your work is adaptated and arranged. I think this is the part of copyright law where fanart is technically illegal, but this is something not enforced because it's bad press and because fanart helps drive interest in a property. But if an copyright holder wanted to clamp down on fanart, I do believe they are well within their rights to do so.
What I said has nothing to do with that beyond Don't say something retarded and then refuse to apologize which is giving the green light to RETARDS to continue their harassment campaign.
she's not stupid enough to not be aware of this.
Morning cyclops
I just don't understand the point. Is this a demo or am I stupid? Am I missing something?
I don't think that's the case in all jurisdictions - the point of the minimal moral rights in the Berne convention is that you can't defame the author by mutilating their work and passing it off as the original work (e.g. adding a bunch of slurs to a novel or something, and leaving the original author's name on the cover). But of course your unauthorised fanart would still be copyright infringement.
The rest sounded spot on to me.
Proctor edit: Google drive of archives here.
I’d like to think Gumpai is a special kind of menhera.
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Every other vtuber knows about fanmerch, knows they don't get a cut but is absolutely delighted to find out it exists. Some of them even intentionally buy it just to have as a symbol of their fans appreciating them. Fanmerch has to be even rarer for non corpo vtubers that aren't Doki.
And here we have this bitch complaining because she isn't getting paid. I'm sure this will encourage people to make more fanstuff of you, worthless whore.
Also as a side note, LPT_kusa is genuinely very sweet and talented. I have no clue how he manages to get the hair to curl in these cute loops, how he keeps the dress skirt poofy and all the other shit he does. My gal even has a detachable accessory on her
My take about the Gumpail deal is that because we are operating with japanese mentality here, people outright assume and allow fan merch because is a good way to get promoted, just look at Kusa twitter with people yearning for someone to ask for plushies of them, the problem with the Gumpai case is that even if she was 100% on her right, demanding the plushies to sell it herself while shilling her Uwumarket was the worst move she could do, not only she burned all goodwill but also deterred everyone to even bother to do something for her that doesnt involve giving her money to watch her ass on the discord
She has become the DSP of whores basically, thank god she is exiled on Kick where she can be irrelevant and fade
She has become the DSP of whores basically, thank god she is exiled on Kick where she can be irrelevant and fade
Batch of flow glow clips
Su: 15-6=6
Vivi: this why they call you EN?
Su: ok but you are retarded
Vivi: ok but... Actually that's true im retarded
Riona revealed she is a lulknight. Idk how anyone look at Luna as the paragon of rapping but here we are.
Team hentai gentlemant confuses Subaru. Chihaya once again offering to strip for Subaru.
Su: 15-6=6
Vivi: this why they call you EN?
Su: ok but you are retarded
Vivi: ok but... Actually that's true im retarded
Riona revealed she is a lulknight. Idk how anyone look at Luna as the paragon of rapping but here we are.
Team hentai gentlemant confuses Subaru. Chihaya once again offering to strip for Subaru.
Quick! Somebody post the latest biboo clip or how Nerissa is so gay you guys totally!Me waking up to the umpteenth page of the Gumpai bullshit:
Yeah. I do. I give a fuck that mine are still being held hostage by the Canadian Postal service.
Creeping on Menace's PL account isn't how I expected to find out Chris Chan will birth the Antichrist in the coming months but here we are
In less horrifying news, Eva Ananova just revealed she works IT in a dentist's office and she's having a real hard time
For a digital oni she's really bad with digital things
In less horrifying news, Eva Ananova just revealed she works IT in a dentist's office and she's having a real hard time
For a digital oni she's really bad with digital things
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Man, it was a goddamn struggle trying to distinguish which FLOW GLOW woman was talking for most of that. I already have a hearing debuff, the joke they were running made them all sound like Ao from the streets, and then Subaru and Miko were talking/laughing at max volume over them. I've gone over it so many times now, but there's still 2-3 lines where I'm not exactly sure if it was Niko or Chihaya talking.
It was a fun time though. Subaru almost never talks with new talents this soon and prefers to let them do their own thing for a while. Like iirc she didn't talk to anyone in ReGLOSS or Advent/Justice for months (other than when Liz popped in her stream for a bit), so it was nice to see her and Miko chat with FLOW GLOW like this so quick.
Creeping on Menace's PL account isn't how I expected to find out Chris Chan will birth the Antichrist in the coming months but here we are
In less horrifying news, Eva Ananova just revealed she works IT in a dentist's office and she's having a real hard time
For a digital oni she's really bad with digital things
For what it's worth, almost all kinds of proprietary software used across the healthcare/dental industry for patient/clinical/billing/admin management are plagued by varying degrees of confusion and inefficiency. These systems are often poorly designed, creating unnecessary complexities that hinder productivity and frustrate users rather than streamlining processes.
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