We watch Vtubers, sir. We're all fucked in the head in one way or another.Jesus this forum is more coomer than I thought.
We watch Vtubers, sir. We're all fucked in the head in one way or another.Jesus this forum is more coomer than I thought.
I mean Hololive are just a talentless bunch anyway, not like they are gonna win anything.I meant that Holo & Niji shouldn't even be sniffing any air within 10-feet of that competition. There's nothing in it for them with all the risk & potential pitfalls.
I mean look what happened to Selen after she showed up:
Forum users reflect the owner?Jesus this forum is more coomer than I thought.
I mean Hololive are just a talentless bunch anyway, not like they are gonna win anything.
Last time Hololive sent a competitor to a singing competition, Sora didn't even make it to the finals, despite both judges are from Hololive!
I think most of the forum is off-base on this one. In Japan, idols will show up for all sorts of open talent things on TV, even if that thing is completely ridiculous and has nothing to do with singing or dancing. And the point of an idol showing up is not expecting, or even hoping to win, but to show themselves and their personality, have some fun and maybe get a few new fans in the process. If, say, a Hololive talent shows up at Fillian's contest, they're really good but don't win and you think they should have, well, it's a pretty easy step from there to want to start seeing more of that talent and what they can do and supporting that talent yourself.Almost unaliving herself? Sure.
Seriously though, showing up to accept a circle-jerky award is an entirely different thing from participating in an open talent show. It's a literal puff piece stunt with no downsides. If you're a Holo already participating in various seasons Fests and 3D stage performances to paying audiences/fans, why the hell would you even show up to some open call talent show and compete with a bunch of literal-whos and no-names? Unless you have an under-the-table understanding that you're guaranteed to win it.
The industry is supposed to be idol culture but also hates and berates idol culture, it has always been this weird identity crisis where depending on who you ask idol culture exists or it doesn't and it's the source of all evil that needs to be purged or it's the only thing that makes vtubers more than just twitch whores and nobody can decide the truth in any of this.I think most of the forum is off-base on this one. In Japan, idols will show up for all sorts of open talent things on TV, even if that thing is completely ridiculous and has nothing to do with singing or dancing. And the point of an idol showing up is not expecting, or even hoping to win, but to show themselves and their personality, have some fun and maybe get a few new fans in the process. If, say, a Hololive talent shows up at Fillian's contest, they're really good but don't win and you think they should have, well, it's a pretty easy step from there to want to start seeing more of that talent and what they can do and supporting that talent yourself.
For an industry that is supposed to have developed from Japanese idol culture, I'm a little disappointed that this part of idol culture doesn't seem to have been bought along.
I was baiting on the previous comment, but hololive managed to come with almost none of the negative of idol cultureI think most of the forum is off-base on this one. In Japan, idols will show up for all sorts of open talent things on TV, even if that thing is completely ridiculous and has nothing to do with singing or dancing. And the point of an idol showing up is not expecting, or even hoping to win, but to show themselves and their personality, have some fun and maybe get a few new fans in the process. If, say, a Hololive talent shows up at Fillian's contest, they're really good but don't win and you think they should have, well, it's a pretty easy step from there to want to start seeing more of that talent and what they can do and supporting that talent yourself.
For an industry that is supposed to have developed from Japanese idol culture, I'm a little disappointed that this part of idol culture doesn't seem to have been bought along.
The industry is this way because of Yagoo. Wactor/Game-bu was the closest thing to idol culture. If hololive never succeeded, Nijisanji 2%/Wactor would be the industry norms. Yagoo is hell bent on treating talents right while chasing the idol dreams, something literally no other CEO attempted and if you asked any JP idol company's CEO they'd call him crazy and hating money.The industry is supposed to be idol culture but also hates and berates idol culture, it has always been this weird identity crisis where depending on who you ask idol culture exists or it doesn't and it's the source of all evil that needs to be purged or it's the only thing that makes vtubers more than just twitch whores and nobody can decide the truth in any of this.
Sourceofallevil.exeI was baiting on the previous comment, but hololive managed to come with almost none of the negative of idol culture
In japan, idols show up on all kinda TV shows because they are forced to by management, you can't turn them down. Period. You work 24/7 hours a day for 2% pay, that is the essence of idol culture. Believe it or not Nijisanji is already generous when it comes to paying their vtubers, compared to the average idol pay cut.
And uh probably need to sleep with producers to gets roles too.
Btw getting on TV and getting on a filian channel is two completely different thing. Her twitch audience is not gonna watch your youtube stream. It aint happening. But you might rope in some who watches TV. Hololive would definitely shows up on TV if asked and they do all the time.
The industry is this way because of Yagoo. Wactor/Game-bu was the closest thing to idol culture. If hololive never succeeded, Nijisanji 2%/Wactor would be the industry norms
I'm with you 100% on the model it is very nice however you lost me on the "no cause for concern" I would agree if it was JUST PL shit but we already have activist shit as Yena so while I'll give her a shot my expectations are rock bottom
Just so we're on the same page, this is the vtuber model that's supposed to be "hideous" and "dead on arrival with the amount of muscles and abs it has"?
If you find this objectively hideous, you might be homosexual. I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
I find the "muscle-mommy thirstposting" (of which there has been...none on this forum???) less disturbing than "Is she trans?" as an immediate response to both the model reveal and her irl pics.
If you want to fit in with normal heterosexual people, you should realize that vermintide are so far outside our psyches that they don't really exist.
She just looks like a normal asian with a corporate gym membership and eats less than 2K calories.
I linked it here thinking it was possibly the most boring facedox in vtubing so far.
The doomposting, too, is disappointingly boring.
Yes, they're debuting a non-loli gen and trying to appeal to normies/tourists/whatever we call people who might actually pay.
That's ... the point. /jidf/ cunnyposting doesn't actually pay anyone.
I wonder if people are just mad the pl/facedox was too easy.
Disclaimer: Not an Idol viewer, except for Roca karaoke and the occasional Tonya. Rin has funny br*t*sh clips and the lolis just blend together.