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[Kazuma]

And then theres False Eyed on his opinion of getting shit on by vtber corpo and he's not happy.

 

[Banana Hammock]

Go watch Lia. She'll probably yap for another hour or two, but she's playing Final Fantasy X after that.

 

[The Proctor]

C'mon guys this is not a hill to die on. This is on the same level as beating papparazzis that break in private property with a bat. Or a rock. Or a bullet (US exclusive).

I strongly disagree. This was public information, posted publicly for consumption by anyone who has access to the link. You cannot gatekeep information or dictate who decides to read it.

Imagine if all of this was a reaction to a post on TVA. Imagine if Spectra had deleted that stream right as someone here was summarizing it for us to stop them from doing so (I know that's mechanically implausible due to the nature of the mediums, but that's besides the point), how would any of us react? We'd mock her and laugh at her for how stupid it was. Don't let your hatred of 'dramafags' blind you to the fact we do the exact same thing, we just don't get money for doing it.

 

[Kazuma]

I strongly disagree. This was public information, posted publicly for consumption by anyone who has access to the link. You cannot gatekeep information or dictate who decides to read it.

Imagine if all of this was a reaction to a post on TVA. Imagine if Spectra had deleted that stream right as someone here was summarizing it for us to stop them from doing so (I know that's mechanically implausible due to the nature of the mediums, but that's besides the point), how would any of us react? We'd mock her and laugh at her for how stupid it was. Don't let your hatred of 'dramafags' blind you to the fact we do the exact same thing, we just don't get money for doing it.

We, excluding bossman, don't touch poop though

 

[Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡]

Journalists are trash and dramafags are trash, it's like complaining that the rotting corpse smells like shit or rotting shit

Dramanigglets: profits over others' downfall and unfounded speculation
Also dramanigglets: why are you being so mean 2 meeeeeeeeeeeeee

C'mon guys this is not a hill to die on. This is on the same level as beating papparazzis that break in private property with a bat. Or a rock. Or a bullet (US exclusive).

See, you don't GET IT, They are HIDING SOMETHING

This isn't about drama, it's about ethics in (vtuber) journalism.

#VtuberGate

 

[The Proctor]

We don't touch poop though

Define that term for me.

 

[shipmate_F]

I strongly disagree. This was public information, posted publicly for consumption by anyone who has access to the link. You cannot gatekeep information or dictate who decides to read it.

Imagine if all of this was a reaction to a post on TVA. Imagine if Spectra had deleted that stream right as someone here was summarizing it for us to stop them from doing so (I know that's mechanically implausible due to the nature of the mediums, but that's besides the point), how would any of us react? We'd mock her and laugh at her for how stupid it was. Don't let your hatred of 'dramafags' blind you to the fact we do the exact same thing, we just don't get money for doing it.

Your assessment is on point and you got it right in the target: revenue. We do it for the love of gossiping and sharing information because we care, they do it for some jew pennies.
If any of those crying bitches come in with proof that noone of the videos are monetized or got ads, then you'll be correct.

We don't touch poop though

Great point, very important distinction in modus operandi.

See, you don't GET IT, They are HIDING SOMETHING

This isn't about drama, it's about ethics in (vtuber) journalism.

#VtuberGate

Funnily enough, I used to think the same for approximately a year until I gave up on that front.
Same as GG: whores will be whores, simps will be simps and roaches will be roaches when the system is rigged in favor of not punishing them as long as it brings money.

 

[The Proctor]

Your assessment is on point and you got it right in the target: revenue. We do it for the love of gossiping and sharing information because we care, they do it for some jew pennies.

Why are the two mutually exclusive? I ask for donations to keep this site running, and I very much prefer it when this place makes money as opposed to doesn't make money. Half of what is discussed here was first propagated by someone who covered it as part of some kind of monetized content cycle, and they benefit from the increased views and attention that brings them. The material information is what matters, not where it came from or how it got to your eyes/ears.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

What if Woozie/Tommy are in fact Chase and the Pippa thread just got even gayer

 

[Kazuma]

Define that term for me.

We might laugh at the vtuber on the forums but we don't tweet at her on Twitter.

 

[Abomination]

All this back and forth regarding dramafags and "literal whos?", and I just can't bring myself to give a damn.

I agree that posting something publicly on the Internet and expecting people to not talk or react to it is beyond retarded and is the reason why so many lolcows exist. If you can't take things you post publicly on the Internet being talked about, then don't fucking post it.

I also think it's hilarious to see a bunch of "journalists" and dramafags get pissy from someone saying "hanging and quartering drama tourists". I suppose you can say it's not very professional for a corpo vtuber to say something like this, but I think it's funny.

Unless I'm missing something, the vtuber took down her own video while it was being covered live? I can't say I really care that much with that. If the dramafag stream/video was DMCA'd, reported, or whatever, then I'd have a stronger opinion against it other than what I posted above. That's why we always say to "archive everything".

At the end of the day, I can't find myself caring all that much about this mild retardation when I don't know, care, or like any of the people involved. Though, points to the one that's supposedly a "Trails autitst". Good taste in JRPGs.

 

[The Proctor]

We might laugh at the vtuber on the forums but we don't tweet at her on Twitter.

Multiple forum members have.

 

[Azehara]

Dramanigglets: profits over others' downfall and unfounded speculation

>5-6 graduation announcements
>unfounded speculation

C'mon guys this is not a hill to die on. This is on the same level as beating papparazzis that break in private property with a bat. Or a rock. Or a bullet (US exclusive).

Speaking of, this is already deleted but we got a screenshot:
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I think it's beyond her to keep these posts up, if the investor eyes rrat is to be believed.

If you publicly post stupid shit on Youtube or Twitter and someone talks about it, you cant really blame a 3rd party for talking about the stupid shit. V&U and their talents are in their rights to private whatever they want but then making some sort of retarded "HA GET FUCKED DRAMATUBER" post is peak lolcow maneuver and only helps streissand effect the whole thing.

>Sharty lingo
>Deletes the post rather than committing to it

Wow, my opinion on this person just keeps getting higher!

To be fair she is quite entertaining. Has some of that "go kill yourself" attitude that has gotten lost on the internet.

I strongly disagree. This was public information, posted publicly for consumption by anyone who has access to the link. You cannot gatekeep information or dictate who decides to read it.

This.

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Not-Twisty gave her 2 cents (she hates Parrot because he made a video centered around her leaking Aster harassing others which will probably be used as catalyst when they terminate her contract).

https://archive.is/06gtz

Good number of people in the replies are pushing back against her.

I find it funny that Parrot gets a ton of shit for his videos when all he does is just read 4chan comments. Its like Pippa getting shit on for laughing at some of the shit her chat says.

 

[NotDecatto]

Calling everyone’s attention here to say we already have an existing thread on the V&U dumpster fire since the nuking of Amano Serafi. Let’s keep it contained there if possible guys.

V&U - Proving that Koreans can be as bad as Singaporeans and Japanese.

Making this thread because V&U is currently engaged in a major scuffle with former talent Amano Serafi, who recently released a google document on their activities. (Archive) (Catbox PDF) Barebones right now, but will add to this later; have quite a few external issues to deal with...

thevirtualasylum.com

As for a palate cleanser, have some Chibidoki

 

[Cubanodun]

Unless I'm missing something, the vtuber took down her own video while it was being covered live? I can't say I really care that much with that. If the dramafag stream/video was DMCA'd, reported, or whatever, then I'd have a stronger opinion against it other than what I posted above. That's why we always say to "archive everything".

Thats what i said but Rima just wanted to do the most basic of approach because she did not want to piss the others, in my opinion all of the persons involved in this were idiots, Spectra for making things worse because apparently the streisand effect is always forgotten, Toraya for just painting a target on herself even when she did not had anything to do with the issue at hand, and Rima for not even bothering to do proper procedures like archiving knowing that if she get DMCA she get the upper hand because she was doing commentary about it

All of this can be resumed to



I dont know what Spectra and Toraya get out of doing gayops for their corpo when since Serafi graduated we know the corpo is shit and has no plan for the foreseeable future except "lets hope we get a Gura"

 

[JusticeDog]

I strongly disagree. This was public information, posted publicly for consumption by anyone who has access to the link. You cannot gatekeep information or dictate who decides to read it.

Imagine if all of this was a reaction to a post on TVA. Imagine if Spectra had deleted that stream right as someone here was summarizing it for us to stop them from doing so (I know that's mechanically implausible due to the nature of the mediums, but that's besides the point), how would any of us react? We'd mock her and laugh at her for how stupid it was. Don't let your hatred of 'dramafags' blind you to the fact we do the exact same thing, we just don't get money for doing it.

None of this would be happening if Rima was reading a transcript or summary of the stream instead of doing react content by watching it on stream.

Even Rima admitted this in the last stream she did.

There's a huge difference between discussing whats happening (which is what you're pretending she did) and making react content out of it (what she actually did).

 

[CalciumAnimal]

What? No. Definitely not. I would never do such a thing. After all, I hate migrants and would never want them to get anything good.

bossman in rare form today. Gonna take this opportunity to thank you for keeping this place running.

Define that term for me.

Interacting with shit on another site because you saw it here. Here being applicable to whichever forum your on.

 

[bothyourhouses]

One month remains for taxes to be filed until you need an extension.

Taxes are due this Monday, March 17th, unless you're talking about some inferior country.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Dramafags, download and archive these announcements first and then react to them you twerps

 

[Ginkgo Balboa 🌾🗡]

Tell me you don't know what the Streisand effect is, without saying you don't know what the Streisand effect is.

I dont know what Spectra and Toraya get out of doing gayops for their corpo when since Serafi graduated we know the corpo is shit and has no plan for the foreseeable future except "lets hope we get a Gura"

You think they are doing this to defend the corporation that they are fleeing from en masse?