Vidya Games Thread

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Did they even finish with 7 yet?

Nope, Part 2 of their "btw, this Remake is actually a 3 part trilogy, now pay us for all 3 games" flopped so hard that Square has officially stated they're giving up Sony's exclusivity and plan on releasing everything multiplat from now on. In Japan, the physical sales of their Part 2 took more than 3 months to match the week 1 sales of FF16, which was already selling worse than FF15. Square Enix are turbo retarded and deserve their fate.

 

[thhrang]

After all the HLX leaks... constantly for several months... with it being in development since Half-Life Alyx wrapped production... and Valve pulling out all the stops for the HL2 anniversary... reprinting Raising The Bar in 2025... fellas... I have hope...


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[CalciumAnimal]

After all the HLX leaks... constantly for several months... with it being in development since Half-Life Alyx wrapped production... and Valve pulling out all the stops for the HL2 anniversary... reprinting Raising The Bar in 2025... fellas... I have hope...

but we all know valve cannot possibly count to 3.

it's half life 4.

 

[Smelliest007]

Traditional turn based FF may never come back. As a series FF has been trying to move away from turn based for like 30 years. If you really need a Square Enix turn based game, Live A Live and Dragon Quest are good options.

And I wholeheartedly recommend Romancing SaGa 2 Revenge of the Seven.

"Huge Persona fan excited to play it for the first time"

"Yeah Persona is my favorite series, Joker is my favorite character in Smash/Joker is my favorite character to blackwash in art."

 

[ScarletCorrupt]

> Load in to PoE 2
> People are bitching about the most recent patch
> Saying cold Sorceress is dead
> Can't be that bad right
> Cast on Freeze was really fun last night after all
> Go to an area
> Fight some mob packs
> Cast on Freeze doesn't proc a single time

Cold Sorceress mains on suicide watch (or anyone playing CoF really, unsure about the other trigger gems)

edit: you need to freeze over 10 trash mobs for a single Comet to cast now LMAO

 

[RestlessRain]

Nope, Part 2 of their "btw, this Remake is actually a 3 part trilogy, now pay us for all 3 games" flopped so hard that Square has officially stated they're giving up Sony's exclusivity and plan on releasing everything multiplat from now on. In Japan, the physical sales of their Part 2 took more than 3 months to match the week 1 sales of FF16, which was already selling worse than FF15. Square Enix are turbo retarded and deserve their fate.

To add to this, they actually have some amazing directors over at Square Enix that could totally revitalize the Final Fantasy franchise. For example, Yoko Taro was the director and one of the scenario writers for Nier: Automata, and after that resounding critical and commercial success, they put him on permanent gachacrap duties. I'm sure other former fans of the company can list other directors who could do a great job with a Final Fantasy game with the budget of a small African nation to make whatever they wanted.

It's not that they don't have the talent to fix the franchise, it's that they refuse to.

 

[Banana Hammock]

Traditional turn based FF may never come back. As a series FF has been trying to move away from turn based for like 30 years. If you really need a Square Enix turn based game, Live A Live and Dragon Quest are good options.

I get the feeling that, much like the Zelda series, we might be getting two different Final Fantasy series now. One in their 3D action engine, and one in their Octopath Traveler engine. Or maybe that's just my talking.

 

[Saturnus]

After all the HLX leaks... constantly for several months... with it being in development since Half-Life Alyx wrapped production... and Valve pulling out all the stops for the HL2 anniversary... reprinting Raising The Bar in 2025... fellas... I have hope...


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If they announce the direct sequel to Half Life 2 Episode 2 featuring Gordon Freeman as the main playable character colloquially presumed to be "Half Life 3" I will delete my entire Dota 2 and Tf2 inventory.

It's not happening.

 

[thhrang]

I will delete my entire Dota 2 and Tf2 inventory.

Change that to "will trade it all to me" and you have a deal, my friend.

 

[Helkar]

Cold Sorceress mains on suicide watch (or anyone playing CoF really, unsure about the other trigger gems)

Other trigger gems got hit similarly.

Because you see, the mechanic was silly. And PoE2 is a serious game. Can't allow silly stuff to exist in it.

Oh yeah personal PoE2 update: enjoying the game quite a bit, but it's a lot more shallow than i ever expected it to be, so now i'm really coping that a mega-successful EA launch doesn't necessarily mean PoE1 will just be put on end-of-life support and GGG will totally keep their promise of maintaining and updating both games.

 

[kingcaid]

Poe players yet again reminded that GGG hates fun and will happily nerf everything into the ground. Why cant you all RESPECT Chris's VISION?

 

[ScarletCorrupt]

Other trigger gems got hit similarly.

Because you see, the mechanic was silly. And PoE2 is a serious game. Can't allow silly stuff to exist in it.

It definitely needed a bit of a nerf considering CoF Comet was extremely strong (though I would have preferred they buff other spells instead). Just a shame they killed all mapping viability for trigger gems in one nerf. Giving the triggered spells a damage penalty or something would have been much better, even if the builds getting nerfed is a bit annoying. We are barely a week into EA though, so hopefully they tweak it again soon (and by that I mean reverting the nerf and giving the triggered spells a damage penalty).

As of current patch Cast on Freeze/Shock/Ignite is just... Freeze/Shock/Ignite because nothing fucking casts anymore lmao

 

[Helkar]

Poe players yet again reminded that GGG hates fun and will happily nerf everything into the ground. Why cant you all RESPECT Chris's VISION?

That's not the issue.
The more i play around and watch streamers in PoE2, the more i come to believe in the theory that GGG's leads badly wanted to be taken seriously as genuine AAA devs, rather than the devs of a wacky GPU/server-demolishing spreadsheet-simulator.

Like i'm on record earlier in that thread saying that(a few days prior to EA release) i see PoE2 as a refinement of the incoherent mess that was PoE1, and i was pretty much right on the money.
What i didn't realize was how much of the SOVL would be lost in that refinement. Granted, things may change since it's EA(i doubt they will, but they might), but so far it would appear that PoE2 is going to be a tidy, ornate, carefully-curated swimming pool, as opposed to PoE1's "we'll just throw you in the middle of an ocean, have fun".

 

[CalciumAnimal]

To add to this, they actually have some amazing directors over at Square Enix that could totally revitalize the Final Fantasy franchise. For example, Yoko Taro was the director and one of the scenario writers for Nier: Automata, and after that resounding critical and commercial success, they put him on permanent gachacrap duties. I'm sure other former fans of the company can list other directors who could do a great job with a Final Fantasy game with the budget of a small African nation to make whatever they wanted.

It's not that they don't have the talent to fix the franchise, it's that they refuse to.

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he chose to do SinOfAlice and Voice of the Cards and that weird anime and honestly let him cook Taro's the type of talent that will fuck off forever if they try to reign him in and put him on a project hes not interested in.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Square Enix well under Enix has NEVER had a traditional or even active battle turn based combat for the mainline FF games.

Its even more retarded, the last Final Fantasy game with it was X. The LAST super popular Single Player one.

And it's one of the ones that he stood the test of time. Not 13, not 15 and as much as I like it not 12.

This is RETARDED. SE are RETARDED.

 

[Dispirited Helmet]

> Load in to PoE 2
> People are bitching about the most recent patch
> Saying cold Sorceress is dead
> Can't be that bad right
> Cast on Freeze was really fun last night after all
> Go to an area
> Fight some mob packs
> Cast on Freeze doesn't proc a single time

Cold Sorceress mains on suicide watch (or anyone playing CoF really, unsure about the other trigger gems)

edit: you need to freeze over 10 trash mobs for a single Comet to cast now LMAO

Yeah, not only that but they killed all Cast on ___ triggers while also making it egregiously expensive to respec into a build that works. And of course every mouth-breather in the chat is circle-jerking about how needing to grind gold for hours to respec after a nerf is actually brilliant game design

That's not the issue.
The more i play around and watch streamers in PoE2, the more i come to believe in the theory that GGG's leads badly wanted to be taken seriously as genuine AAA devs, rather than the devs of a wacky GPU/server-demolishing spreadsheet-simulator.

Like i'm on record earlier in that thread saying that(a few days prior to EA release) i see PoE2 as a refinement of the incoherent mess that was PoE1, and i was pretty much right on the money.
What i didn't realize was how much of the SOVL would be lost in that refinement. Granted, things may change since it's EA(i doubt they will, but they might), but so far it would appear that PoE2 is going to be a tidy, ornate, carefully-curated swimming pool, as opposed to PoE1's "we'll just throw you in the middle of an ocean, have fun".

I haven't played POE1: what are the specific differences between the two games that make you feel that way?

 

[Zizara]

> Load in to PoE 2
> People are bitching about the most recent patch
> Saying cold Sorceress is dead
> Can't be that bad right
> Cast on Freeze was really fun last night after all
> Go to an area
> Fight some mob packs
> Cast on Freeze doesn't proc a single time

Cold Sorceress mains on suicide watch (or anyone playing CoF really, unsure about the other trigger gems)

edit: you need to freeze over 10 trash mobs for a single Comet to cast now LMAO

It's funny - I was actually joking the other day about how based on their behaviour since launch, they'd nerf fire witch, cold sorceress, and there was a 50/50 on whether invoker monk and deadeye ranger would catch one too. Now we're already halfway there - is the Helldivers 2 method of spoiling goodwill really that attractive to devs?
Some of these nerfs were justifiable enough but they're reaching into just the competent builds now. Whatever dev made cast on freeze and didn't expect the comet build is a dumb yamanba who needs to be fired, because attaching your most powerful spell to a freecast mechanic is literally the first thing any Timmy would try to do.
And really I just think there's more important things to be adjusting right now than builds, especially since it's so expensive to respec, people have little resources banked to begin with, and game knowledge is at its lowest point.

 

[Dispirited Helmet]

It's funny - I was actually joking the other day about how based on their behaviour since launch, they'd nerf fire witch, cold sorceress, and there was a 50/50 on whether invoker monk and deadeye ranger would catch one too. Now we're already halfway there - is the Helldivers 2 method of spoiling goodwill really that attractive to devs?
Some of these nerfs were justifiable enough but they're reaching into just the competent builds now. Whatever dev made cast on freeze and didn't expect the comet build is a dumb yamanba who needs to be fired, because attaching your most powerful spell to a freecast mechanic is literally the first thing any Timmy would try to do.
And really I just think there's more important things to be adjusting right now than builds, especially since it's so expensive to respec, people have little resources banked to begin with, and game knowledge is at its lowest point.

I still have to hard-quit the game from Steam to get out of a trial if I fail it, but more dev time is being spent on making the game combat unfun than bugfixing. There was a guy in the global chat today who got perma-stuck in the floor fighting a boss. If he logged out, he'd come back in the floor. The boss couldn't hit him, and he couldn't portal out either. Just hard stuck in the floor until the end of time.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

orrrr it's a game stop grousing because your class got hit a copy of POE2 says they buff sorceress later. especially since it's still in early accsess.

feels like your all mad that the emperor lost his clothes.

 

[Dispirited Helmet]

orrrr it's a game stop grousing because your class got hit a copy of POE2 says they buff sorceress later. especially since it's still in early accsess.

feels like your all mad that the emperor lost his clothes.

The nerf isn't the problem per se. It's more that the game dev cycle so far has done nothing to fix actual problems. I'll grind for gold all day if I'm not getting stuck in floors doing it, but I don't really enjoy losing all that time to bullshit.