Vidya Games Thread

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

I kind of feel it's been the same song and dance really for years it's just that we've seen talent leaking over the years.

We can go back to 2016. IMO Doom and Titanfall 2 were a couple of the greatest games ever made. Battlefield 1 I thought was good but was it as good as 3 or the Bad Company games? No. Infinite Warfare was just OK and Overwatch I found fun but not enough to buy it.

However if you follow public perception what followed those? Infinite Warfare was followed by shit. COD more or less survives because it's yearly so sometimes either MP or a Campaign hits. Battlefield and Battlefront? Followed by shit. Apex Legends? Oh don't mind me but imo SHIT. Doom Eternal? Sure my feelings aside that was well made. The issue with these though is that COD it's a string of shit, BF it's a string of shit. Apex is live service shit. And let's do forget what happened to Overwatch. This has been 7 years of ongoing mediocrity.

And that is not even touching on what happened to Ubisoft over that stretch. Nor the Microsoft madness. I don't really look at it as a "now" problem with Western development. It is how they have been conditioned at this point.

 

[Smelliest007]

Yeah that is true, I just cannot enjoy CRPGs that aren’t built around turn based.

I liked Pillars of Eternity, but I'm pretty sure you have to be so deep into the crpg niche that it counts as being on the spectrum to enjoy it, and they fumbled 2 hard. Tyranny was a fucking bait-and-switch though.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I liked Pillars of Eternity, but I'm pretty sure you have to be so deep into the crpg niche that it counts as being on the spectrum to enjoy it

Welcome to the original Baldur's Gate games. I started playing those for the first time after BG3 came out because I had everyone tell me how much better they were. Only played BG1 but as much as I enjoyed the story and the narrative, the combat was the most autistic thing I have ever suffered through. AD&D 2nd edition is just a shitshow for everyone that doesn't play mage, god forbid you play something like pure Fighter.

 

[MrProcessor]

I found out about the game like a year or two ago because New Vegas retards kept hyping this shit up as the new Skyrim killer because it's made by their beloved Obsidian (which is a hollowed out husk of a studio at this point)

Didn't any of them play The Outer Worlds? One of the worst purchases I ever made, taught me a valuable lesson.

 

[shipmate_F]

It's not even just the DEI stuff or investors rushing them. It's the endless bureaucracy where games are being made by committee. It's no longer "the talented devs can carry the retards" because if the talented devs want to do something, it has to go and be approved by the retards before it can be implemented. Talented devs end up leaving out of frustration or just keep their heads down to keep collecting a paycheck.

I think that's a lose-lose games, see Itsuno:

LIGHTSPEED STUDIOS Launches Japan Game Development Studio Led By Hideaki Itsuno | LightSpeed Studios

LIGHTSPEED STUDIOS Launches Japan Game Development Studio Led By Hideaki Itsuno

www.lightspeed-studios.com

Followed by


People are coping saying "Lightspeed Japan isn't the same as Lightspeed" but we all know he will do counseling and waste his time on that project because he is an employee as everyone else and the execs really want that to be succesful.
Imagine dropping a 30 year career to work on mobile slop for furries and groomers, I would rather kill myself.
He didn't even fix Dragons Dogma 2 too, the game still runs like garbage -not Denuvo's fault, for once- and it's the most mediocre release I played, it's just DD1 with more polygons and moves, it even got the same monotonous issues like lack of enemy variety and streamlined progression.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

He didn't even fix Dragons Dogma 2 too, the game still runs like garbage -not Denuvo's fault, for once- and it's the most mediocre release I played, it's just DD1 with more polygons and moves, it even got the same monotonous issues like lack of enemy variety and streamlined progression.

I'm so happy I didn't buy into the FOMO surrounding DD2, that shit ended up looking so boring and uninteresting.

EDIT: Also random point because I don't care about FF14 but is this game really fully coming to mobile? God damn, the gaslighting from the FF community continues to amaze me, as these fags kept trying to get WoW players to join their community by saying its a harder game.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

I think that's a lose-lose games, see Itsuno:

LIGHTSPEED STUDIOS Launches Japan Game Development Studio Led By Hideaki Itsuno | LightSpeed Studios

LIGHTSPEED STUDIOS Launches Japan Game Development Studio Led By Hideaki Itsuno

www.lightspeed-studios.com

Followed by


People are coping saying "Lightspeed Japan isn't the same as Lightspeed" but we all know he will do counseling and waste his time on that project because he is an employee as everyone else and the execs really want that to be succesful.
Imagine dropping a 30 year career to work on mobile slop for furries and groomers, I would rather kill myself.
He didn't even fix Dragons Dogma 2 too, the game still runs like garbage -not Denuvo's fault, for once- and it's the most mediocre release I played, it's just DD1 with more polygons and moves, it even got the same monotonous issues like lack of enemy variety and streamlined progression.

because they WISELY made you play the whole game before your allowed to do anything new.

what a great idea. (and even then it's basically recolors)

 

[shipmate_F]

Perish the thought of hurting anyone but I wish the IDF exploded all phones in existence just so the mobile market drowns and we free society from such curse.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

The Outer Worlds being a mediocre game was such a fun thing to see after everyone was waxing poetic about Obsidian getting time to make a game and doing it without mean bethesda yanking their chain

It just came out and fizzled out of public conciousness, i think ive seen more people talk about PoE or even Tyranny than it

 

[Smelliest007]

The Outer Worlds being a mediocre game was such a fun thing to see after everyone was waxing poetic about Obsidian getting time to make a game and doing it without mean bethesda yanking their chain

It just came out and fizzled out of public conciousness, i think ive seen more people talk about PoE or even Tyranny than it

I remember it well for kickstarting the whole EGS exclusive bullshit. Thank you Timmy for keeping me from making a mistake!

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I remember it well for kickstarting the whole EGS exclusive bullshit. Thank you Timmy for keeping me from making a mistake!

I randomly got Outer Worlds for free from EGS and I still haven't played it, don't know if I ever will.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

The Outer Worlds being a mediocre game was such a fun thing to see after everyone was waxing poetic about Obsidian getting time to make a game and doing it without mean bethesda yanking their chain

It just came out and fizzled out of public conciousness, i think ive seen more people talk about PoE or even Tyranny than it

Not exactly the first world is still good and sparked that discussion in the first place.

and then they just do fucking nothing with it even the second world was good. TOW Tyranny both needed more time in the oven .

 

[thhrang]

 

[UberSoldat]

Welcome to the original Baldur's Gate games. I started playing those for the first time after BG3 came out because I had everyone tell me how much better they were. Only played BG1 but as much as I enjoyed the story and the narrative, the combat was the most autistic thing I have ever suffered through. AD&D 2nd edition is just a shitshow for everyone that doesn't play mage, god forbid you play something like pure Fighter.

I actually enjoyed Icewind Dale (BG's lesser known cousin) for the most part, but boy did it get tedious over time. I almost ragequit at the final boss and only came through because of RNG. Then I finally gave up at the expansion's final boss. I started BG1 with a friend but we hardly got past the prologue so far, and I'm not really eager to play through the entirety of those two games and their expansions if the experience is going to be similar.

If you want an old school CRPG that aged rather well go play Neverwinter Nights instead, there's a mountain of content between the official and community modules.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

I actually enjoyed Icewind Dale (BG's lesser known cousin) for the most part, but boy did it get tedious over time. I almost ragequit at the final boss and only came through because of RNG. Then I finally gave up at the expansion's final boss. I started BG1 with a friend but we hardly got past the prologue so far, and I'm not really eager to play through the entirety of those two games and their expansions if the experience is going to be similar.

If you want an old school CRPG that aged rather well go play Neverwinter Nights instead, there's a mountain of content between the official and community modules.

On BG2 id argue that it's worse because it's more railroady. BG1 might be more difficult encounter wise but you can run from them and explore other areas. BG2 does the thing where you click on an area "OH NO AMBUSH!" and then you fucking die. The opening segment is kind of fucked like Arena and Daggerfall too (maybe not quite as bad but you better have built your character to Biowares specs).

Now I'm also in the minority I guess in that I didn't care for BG2s story as much as 1 so I had way less patience for it's bullshit but I will still say the Underdark segment was cool. It's also the bit that other "choices matter" CRPG dudes always tried to copy.

But in the end of the day I'd rather play Icewind Dale for gameplay or Planescape for story. Well and gameplay because it's less bullshit. The Fallout games too for that matter

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I actually enjoyed Icewind Dale (BG's lesser known cousin) for the most part, but boy did it get tedious over time. I almost ragequit at the final boss and only came through because of RNG. Then I finally gave up at the expansion's final boss. I started BG1 with a friend but we hardly got past the prologue so far, and I'm not really eager to play through the entirety of those two games and their expansions if the experience is going to be similar.

If you want an old school CRPG that aged rather well go play Neverwinter Nights instead, there's a mountain of content between the official and community modules.

Oh yeah, that whole iron crisis bullshit is just completely unfun. You have fight through some mines with a bunch of packs of enemies early on. You don't have enough THAC0 bonuses to hit consistently and pray the enemy doesn't all land their hits at the same time. Or you have a mage cast an AOE CC that lasts for like an entire minute so you don't have to roll to hit...unless they succeed at the saving throw against your spell.

 

[UberSoldat]

But in the end of the day I'd rather play Icewind Dale for gameplay or Planescape for story. Well and gameplay because it's less bullshit. The Fallout games too for that matter

Oh yeah Planescape is good stuff. I still gotta start Fallout some day.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

I actually enjoyed Icewind Dale (BG's lesser known cousin) for the most part, but boy did it get tedious over time. I almost ragequit at the final boss and only came through because of RNG. Then I finally gave up at the expansion's final boss. I started BG1 with a friend but we hardly got past the prologue so far, and I'm not really eager to play through the entirety of those two games and their expansions if the experience is going to be similar.

If you want an old school CRPG that aged rather well go play Neverwinter Nights instead, there's a mountain of content between the official and community modules.

of the D&D in game form games I really enjoyed Pool of Radiance Ruins of Myth Dranor it was super long ago so i dont exactly remember how well it stacks up to BG but i remember having a fun time with a game that let me do stupid shit and face the consequences.

(trust me bro ill give you this magic ring if you enter this suspiciously locked door)

 

[Bug Eater]

Outer Worlds is like the epitome of "I'm not mad I'm just disappointed" for me, it plays like Borderlands but without the saving graces of lootbox gacha and multiplayer. The RPG elements are stretched really fucking thin. It sucks because the setting had a lot of potential.

 

[Saturnus]

I'll believe this when we get a tf2 content update.
>ZOOMER VALVE DEVS WANT TO UPDATE TF2 BUT ERIC SAID NO
That Isn't a tf2 content update.