Vidya Games Thread

[agility_]

I wonder what incorrect conclusion they're going to draw up from this.

"Players are just not interested in jrpgs anymore"

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I wonder what incorrect conclusion they're going to draw up from this.

"Players are just not interested in jrpgs anymore"

Probably something equally as retarded as Yoshi P's statements about FF16 and turn based combat.

 

[That Chuuba Enjoyer]

Why is it doing low? I thought people were big on FF7. Could it be the model of them making it into 3 games? People rather wait for all 3 before playing?

 

[Zizara]

Famitsu physical software sales in Japan got posted a few days ago for March 19th-March 24th.

FF7 Rebirth dropped to 8th place and has only sold 305k so far, while FF16 sold 336k in its first week. The weekly sales dropped another 38% this week from 11,497 sales last week to 7,121 sales this week. If sales continue to slow down, FF7 Rebirth might not even be able to break 336k over 2 months. This is a disaster, their trilogy plan is going up in smoke.

Coming out of Remake I was worried they were being too mysterious and self indulgent for their own sakes to allow less dedicated fans to keep up, and Rebirth hasn't done much to reassure me. The game is massively bloated with minigames and side content in every region to pad playtime, the majority of which desperately needs ripped out just for the sake of player fatigue, but if they do that it would expose just how little actual storyline progression there is. They can spend a massive amount of screentime fleshing out the Gi into a square peg for the established history of FF7, but sure whatever it gives Red 13 more personality. Then you meet Vincent and he's a glorified cameo character even though they canonised the spinoff lore and you would think Vincent would be a big deal who should be deeply involved in the new threat to the Planet narrative they've been writing.
And speaking of the Time Jannies, we're 2 games in now and they've still yet to actually add anything of worth to the games themselves. What's going on has been properly explained now so I get there's split timelines running concurrently and in competition, but while that's interesting in theory and to think about, my opinion actually playing through the games has still been that they're just random interruptions of psuedo-deep nonsense that I'm forced to sit through before I can get back to the actually good content (the original plotline + the new characterisation scenes and interactions with the cast). We're what should be 2/3rds of the way through and the metaplot of the game has only just finished setting up the stakes, it'll only become engaging in the third game and I'm honestly doubting Square's ability to pull off a satisfying conclusion based on what I've seen so far of this part of the game.
Which is a problem because it'll have to be perfect otherwise people will be asking themselves why the fuck they bothered in the first place. Did Final Fantasy 7 - one of the most important videogames of all time - really need to fuck around exploring a multiverse? Or could all of that dev time instead have been spent refining the original plot and putting in more of the character scenes literally everyone loves?
The game's good and all but I've been sniffing around different communities for opinions and even in forced hugboxes like Reddit reception has been cool on the ending, whispers, and fumbled have-your-cake-and-eat-it approaches to certain infamous scenes. Doesn't bode well.

 

[I Wanna Die]

Why is it doing low? I thought people were big on FF7. Could it be the model of them making it into 3 games? People rather wait for all 3 before playing?

That's what I'm doing. If they canceled dlcs for 15 cause of poor sales cancelling an entire game due to poor sales from prequels isn't a stretch.

 

[ValkyrieAce]

Besides being trapped on PS5, the main problem is that FF7R is just not a good game and it was rushed out too soon. It's just a shitty minigame collection in a largely boring open world where you occasionally get a cut scene. There's a ridiculous lack of polish like janky physics and sound bugs. They obviously had to push it out to meet the fiscal year, when it could have used another year of dev time.

 

[agility_]

I had no idea they planned to stretch it into a trilogy, I thought the plan was to make it into 2 games, given the amount of effort and time it's taken them to craft this nostalgiapiece. I don't see them doing this kind of treatment for the next in popularity FF game, FFX.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Why is it doing low? I thought people were big on FF7. Could it be the model of them making it into 3 games? People rather wait for all 3 before playing?

It's because people aren't happy with the game being stretched over 3 games. They lied to everyone and just labeled the first game as "FF7 Remake" while leaving out all the key details. When a lot of people finished the game, they thought "wow that sucks but it's a bit more tolerable knowing they're adding so much character development that it's going to be over 2 games". Then the other shoe dropped and they found out what was really going on. Square Enix announced they were pulling a Warner Bros and stretching out a beloved classic over 3 installments to milk it like the Hobbit while making notable changes to the story.

The "Rebirth is selling worse than Remake because it's locked on the PS5" is only partly true because it's selling massively worse than FF16 and word of mouth on Rebirth hasn't been good.

 

[RestlessRain]

Besides being trapped on PS5

Good Final Fantasy games sell consoles. If the remake of FFVII was good, people would buy the console they need to play it.

 

[Zizara]

There's a ridiculous lack of polish like janky physics and sound bugs.

I can't say I experienced any sound bugs, but one thing that does immediately come to mind now you mention it is that I thought the voice acting was incredibly flat this game. I'm assuming poor direction? Or maybe it is bad editing, the VA's seemed better in Remake.
It's not every character and not every scene but there are times where you're watching full on mental breakdowns and similar high-intensity conversations only for the VA to feel like they're phoning it in with incredibly monotone lines that only hint at the emotion that should be felt here. Just because they're anime cool dudes doesn't mean they need to be composed constantly.

 

[That Chuuba Enjoyer]

I had no idea they planned to stretch it into a trilogy, I thought the plan was to make it into 2 games, given the amount of effort and time it's taken them to craft this nostalgiapiece. I don't see them doing this kind of treatment for the next in popularity FF game, FFX.

Originally it was going to be episodic: https://www.wired.com/story/final-fantasy-vii-remake-is-episodic/ (This is from 2015 5 years before we got the first game in the trilogy)

However there was blowback to this decision before the first game came out, so director would later say it be a trilogy in big AAA packages. not continuous episodes in bite sizes.

 

[Negzana]

It would have costed a lot less and made just as much to have simply made an HD FFVII with voice acting, some QOL, new enemies and items, and a new bonus dungeon or two with so challenge bosses.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Speaking of Remakes, I look forward to the inevitable RE5 Remake. Game journalists are already seething about the mere idea of shooting Africans.

 

[That Chuuba Enjoyer]

Speaking of Remakes, I look forward to the inevitable RE5 Remake. Game journalists are already seething about the mere idea of shooting Africans.

I honestly wonder if Capcom will see it through and remake it properly, or will they change the general enemies. tbh I thought Res 5 was fun for what it was, and hope they keep the co-op mode in it.

Though, I think the next Resident Evil game is 9 right?

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I honestly wonder if Capcom will see it through and remake it properly, or will they change the general enemies. tbh I thought Res 5 was fun for what it was, and hope they keep the co-op mode in it.

Though, I think the next Resident Evil game is 9 right?

Yeah, it should be RE9 next. Unless they've had something like Code Veronica in the oven.

 

[ValkyrieAce]

Justice for Code: Veronica!

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Also just going to throw it out there for context of physical sales in Japan for 2023. The last number is the number of copies sold and games that have a number followed by a (total: ####) indicates the game released earlier than 2023.

Spoiler: Japanese Top 100 Retail Sales for 2023

1. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (Switch) – 1,939,603
2. Super Mario Bros. Wonder (Switch) – 1,549,401
3. Pikmin 4 (Switch) – 1,119,027
4. Pokémon Scarlet and Violet (Switch) – 907,432 (Total 5,246,363)
5. Momotaro Dentetsu World: Chikyuu wa Kibou de Mawatteru! (Switch) – 795,681
6. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch) – 617,223 (Total: 5,631,598)
7. Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe (Switch) – 514,581
8. DRAGON QUEST MONSTERS: The Dark Prince (Switch) – 510,477
9. Splatoon 3 (Switch) – 503,312 (4,191,126)
10. Super Mario RPG (Switch) – 447,687
11. Minecraft (Switch) – 434,216 (3,394,222)
12. Final Fantasy XVI (PS5) – 429,330
13. Nintendo Switch Sports (Switch) – 359,127 (1,246,849)
14. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Switch) – 335,084 (5,400,275)
15. Mario Party Superstars (Switch) – 257,641 (1,371,773)
16. Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Switch) – 250,450 (7,645,654)
17. Fire Emblem Engage (Switch) – 222,235
18. Ring Fit Adventure (Switch) – 188,513 (3,507,396)
19. Hogwarts Legacy (PS5) – 187,840
20. Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa Heisei Reiwa mo Teiban! (Switch) – 176,594 (2,959,527)
21. Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 (PS5) – 166,731
22. Taiko no Tastsujin: Dondaful Festival (Switch) – 161,965 (277,216)
23. Sekai no Asobi Taizen 51 (Switch) – 160,091 (1,214,978)
24. ARMORED CORE VI: FIRES OF RUBICON (PS5) – 154,828
25. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch) –149,398 (2,263,599)
26. Jinsei Game for Nintendo Switch (Switch) – 147,308
27. Resident Evil 4 (PS4) – 145,123
28. WarioWare: Move It! (Switch) – 141,554
29. Resident Evil 4 (PS5) – 140,889
30. Detective Pikachu Returns (Switch) – 137,528
31. Gran Turismo 7 (PS5) – 130,780 (348,793)
32. Kirby and the Forgotten Land (Switch) – 115,106 (1,084,153)
33. Dragon Quest Treasures (Switch) – 198,403
34. Super Mario Party (Switch) – 112,679 (2,232,637)
35. Octopath Traveler II (Switch) – 106,592
36. Super Mario 3D World + Fury World (Switch) – 102,124 (1,209,757)
37. Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 Special Price (Switch) – 99,834 (118,599)
38. ARK: Survival Evolved (Switch) – 92,442
39. Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name (PS4) – 91,169
40. New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Switch) – 88,918 (1,309,357)
41. Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name (PS5) – 87,551
42. Mega Man Battle Network Legacy Collection (Switch) – 84,269
43. Hogwarts Legacy (Switch) – 82,367
44. Master Detective Archives: RAIN CODE (Switch) – 82,225
45. Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life (Switch) – 78657
46. Pokémon Scarlet and Violet + The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero (Switch) – 76,112
47. Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (Switch) – 75,770 (2,682,713)
48. Tsuri Spirits: Tsutte Asoberu Suizokukan (Switch) – 75,558 (155,582)
49. ARMORED CORE VI: FIRES OF RUBICON (PS4) – 75,364
50. Super Mario Maker 2 (Switch) – 72,917 (1,337,876)
51. Human Fall Flat (Switch) – 72,737 (382,304)
52. Super Mario Odyssey (Switch) – 71,164 (2,451,965)
53. Luigi’s Mansion 3 (Switch) – 71,138 (947,865)
54. Fashion Dreamer (Switch) – 68,012
55. eBASEBALL Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2022 (Switch) – 66,667 (314,533)
56. Street Fighter 6 (PS5) – 66,413
57. Pikmin 1+2 (Switch) – 66,388
58. FIFA 23 Legacy Edition (Switch) – 64,260 (128,725)
59. The Battle Cats Unite! (Switch) – 62,895 (243,700)
60. EA SPORTS FC 24 (Switch) – 58,862
61. Hogwarts Legacy (PS4) – 58,333
62. Monster Hunter Rise + Sunbreak Set (Switch) – 57,777 (351,250)
63. Like a Dragon: Ishin! (PS4) – 57,198
64. WILD HEARTS (PS5) – 55,668
65. Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection (Switch) – 53,909
66. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty (PS5) – 53,485
67. ONE PIECE ODYSSEY (PS4) – 52,438
68. Fate/Samurai Remnant (Switch) – 50,407
69. Natsumon! 20-Seiki no Natsuyasumi (Switch) – 49,804
70. Street Fighter 6 (PS4) – 49,603
71. Like a Dragon: Ishin! (PS5) – 49,278
72. Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII- Reunion (Switch) – 48,056 (109,189)
73. Forspoken (PS5) – 47,181
74. DRAGON QUEST XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age (New Price) (Switch) – 46,819 (288,763)
75. Pokémon Sword and Shield (Switch) – 46,326 (4,436,508)
76. Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key (Switch) – 46,273
77. Minecraft Legends (Switch) – 45,243
78. Pokémon Legends: Arceus (Switch) – 44,591 (2,359,397)
79. ONE PIECE ODYSSEY (PS5) – 44,285
80. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + Additional Course Pass (Switch) – 44,007
81. Star Ocean: The Second Story R (Switch) – 42,014
82. Infinity Strash: DRAGON QUEST The Adventure of Dai (Switch) – 41,982
83. Diablo IV (PS5) – 41,173
84. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III (PS5) – 39,676
85. Kirby Star Allies (Switch) – 38,323 (1,061,095)
86. Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope (Switch) – 38,129 (110,029)
87. Persona 5 Tactica (Switch) – 36,462
88. Tales of Symphonia Remastered (Switch) – 35,794
89. Xenoblade 3 (Switch) – 35,756 (214,026)
90. Dragon Quest X Offline (Switch) – 35,289 (287,317)
91. ONE PIECE: PIRATE WARRIORS 4 Deluxe Edition (Switch) – 34,814
92. EA SPORTS FC 24 (PS5) – 33,878
93. Horizon Forbidden West (PS5) – 33,830 (166,542)
94. Wo Long: Fallen Destiny (PS4) – 33,060
95. Super Bomberman R2 (Switch) – 32,756
96. Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 (Switch) – 31,549
97. Fitness Boxing: Fist of the North Star (Switch) – 31,255 (49,087)
98. Winning Post 10 (Switch) – 30,817
99. Minecraft Dungeons Ultimate Edition (Switch) – 30,726 (127,951)
100. Fate/Samurai Remnant (PS5) – 30,392

And yes, Baldur's Gate 3 isn't on that list because it didn't release until December 21st in Japan and Famitsu only covers retail sales (box sales and game redeem cards), not digital sales.

EDIT: I took the liberty to color group repeat games across multiple platforms.

 

[BlueSharkTV]

After finishing Devil May Cry 3 on Dante Must Die a lot of things about the game become more apparent.
Like bosses being a joke if you just use a specific devil arm (Beowulf, Agni & Rudra and Rebellion)
And certain enemies being the most annoying thing known to mankind (Enigmas, Damned Queens, Soul Eaters and Abysses in mission 19)
And the worst boss of the whole series Arkham.
As for bosses being a joke you can just use Killer Bee and Rising Dragon with Beowulf, or jump cancelling Aerial Cross with Agni & Rudra and you can keep hitting some bosses with Rebellion and dodge before they hit you.
For enemies being annoying, Enigmas can hit you as fast as they see you, Damned Queens are the most durable chess piece and they can move across the whole screen with a really big hitbox, Soul Eaters are not that annoying when they are on their own but when they spawn on the same room as other enemies you can't target them, and Abysses are only annoying on mission 19 because of the infinity nirvana being a timed fight.
Arkham only becomes an issue because they take away your style and devil trigger because of Vergil being there.
Either way, good game 10/10 would recommend, and anyone that would like to play it should do very hard before going into DMD to make it more bearable.

 

[UberSoldat]

Gman reviews every main Resident Evil

 

[UberSoldat]

Civvie plays Chex Quest