The Nolan Crush Memorial Post Dump and Lolcow Thread

[niggaphil]

Since the homeland opened a new Live Talent sub-forum (Probably April Fool shitpost, but who knows?), Nolan definitely going there and LMAO soon

Should we copy and paste the Nolan's information on that forum because it is relevant to Vtuber?

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Since the homeland opened a new Live Talent sub-forum (Probably April Fool shitpost, but who knows?), Nolan definitely going there and LMAO soon

Should we copy and paste the Nolan's information on that forum because it is relevant to Vtuber?

leave a single comment saying Hi Nolan Crush.

Wait.

when he shows up declare yourself the reincarnation of Nostradamus and start a religion declare jihad on the Nolan Creature.

 

[reinigen]

If he shows up I'm going to immediately quote him and say "Heeeeeyyyyyyyyy buddy!"

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

If he shows up I'm going to immediately quote him and say "Heeeeeyyyyyyyyy buddy!"

Going for a second "I HATE REINIGEN, I HOPE HE DIES REEEEEEE" blogpost rant from Nolan, I see.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Spoiler: Mild Sperg

Christianity didn't exactly moderate or accept criticism on its own. It just lost. From the fall of the western Roman empire until the reformation it set the rules and enforced them, through violence if need be. The reformation then led to 1 1/2 centuries of total war during which the church tried to maintain its doctrinal monopoly. It lost.

Westphalia set up the supremacy of the state over religion. Christianity simply wasn't given a choice on the matter. Everything that followed after Westphalia (secularism, liberalism) was simply its consequences thought further and the church (es, at this point) being unable to stop it.

The muslim world is experiencing this conflict, too, roughly since 1920, with iberalisation attempts in Iran and Afghanistan (twice, for the latter), Arab nationalism/socialism in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Algeria had its own thing going...

Difference is, this same conflict playing out in the Arab world had the opposite result. The states lose, the madrassas win. The only reason there isn't a fundamentalist muslim superstate from Iraq to Morocco is that American bombs keep blowing up the people who are trying to build it.

There are some very old differences between mainstream Christian and mainstream Muslim philosophy, as the long conflict between pure faith and faith through natural philosophy was won by the latter in Christianity (over the course of 1200 years from Augustine of Hippo to Kepler, mind you), while that same conflict in Islam was won by the former between ca. 900 AD and 1300 AD. There is also something to be said for Christianity being quantifiably more liberal than Islam essentially since its inception. Not liberal by any post Westphalian definition of that term, but relatively more liberal than Islam.

But modern Christianity didn't become what it is through choice.

Rather, it was defanged because states forced it to submit with cannons and gunfire.

Yeah. No religion in this green earth ever backs down peacefully, religion is a weapon of control over the ignorant masses and its masters wouldn't ever FUCKING DREAM of letting their unlimited source of power, wealth and influence over entire civilizations go.

Christianity was dragged kicking and screaming into irrelevance as the illiterate masses which fed its influence were given access to education/technology and didn't need to keep believing in sky fairies to explain thunder and solar eclipses or pray to some donation-embezzling priest to cure their illnesses. Islam had some pretty secular periods but each time they get anywhere some retarded barbarians come in and destroy anything of value.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Yeah. No religion in this green earth ever backs down peacefully,

MANY HAG CULTISTS on their way to burn nenelove as we speak.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Yeah. No religion in this green earth ever backs down peacefully, religion is a weapon of control over the ignorant masses and its masters wouldn't ever FUCKING DREAM of letting their unlimited source of power, wealth and influence over entire civilizations go.

Christianity was dragged kicking and screaming into irrelevance as the illiterate masses which fed its influence were given access to education/technology and didn't need to keep believing in sky fairies to explain thunder and solar eclipses or pray to some donation-embezzling priest to cure their illnesses. Islam had some pretty secular periods but each time they get anywhere some retarded barbarians come in and destroy anything of value.

Spoiler: More Spergery

Nah.

What broke the power of Christianity weren't the masses rising up, it were states jealous of the church's money and influence breaking it over their knees so they could have that power instead. The German nobles siding with the protestants absorbed much of the local church's land and wealth. Henry VIII created the Anglican church to get new pussy get rid of Rome, revolutionary France (led by the urban upper class, in case anyone forgot) took in the church's money to finance its wars.

It wasn't quite as radical everywhere, Spain was more subtle about it (still did it, though), but yeah.

And the entire reason this happened was that the catholic church wasn't a tool for the state to use as it saw fit. Not a good one, anyway. It kept trying to assert its independence and fought the state time and time again.

Tellingly, in areas where the church had always been subservient to the state (orthodox Christianity; the newly emergent state churches in protestant Europe), this process didn't happen/immediately stopped again.

The loss of faith among the general population post dates this process by many centuries. What exactly caused this in particular is, honestly, still subject to debate. I suppose it'd be a bit glib to say "Steampower".

As for islamic secularism... nah. It had brief periods of intellectual curiosity in the middle east and Spain, but both of these were 1. quite short, and 2. ended before the barbarians came in. In Spain, deep conservativism settled in half a millenium before Castile took over. In the middle east, all the Mongols did was eliminate sad memories of once great thought that hadn't produced anything new or valuable for over a century already. And it'd, at any rate, be a bit rich to blame the Mongols when said same Mongols did support proto science aplenty in the form of the Yuan dynasty (which the Ming dynasty promptly trashed because it was associated with the Mongols. Thus, while Marco Polo could be super impressed with advanced Yuan technology, by the time the Jesuits arrived in China two centuries and change later, Chinese math and technology was already trash. Thanks, Ming!).

 

[CalciumAnimal]

this seasons decision to just randomly have two whole episodes about religion right in the middle of the nolans new job arc is peak comedy.

even his own show doesn't want him in it anymore.